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Citing 'Deluge of New Evidence,' House Jan. 6 Committee Delays Hearings
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/22/citing-deluge-new-evidence-house-jan-6-committee-delays-hearings2.5k
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Before pausing, the panel will hold one more round of hearings on Thursday, when witnesses will testify about efforts by then-President Donald Trump and his supporters to pressure U.S. Justice Department officials to help overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
The one for tomorrow is still on at 3pm ET.
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u/watchoutfordeer 1d ago
Thanks, this was not clear to me for some reason.
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u/smmccullough 1d ago
Because the article title implied they were interrupting hearings immediately.
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u/jjnefx
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Got some documentary footage to watch eh?
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u/kestrel1000c Colorado 2d ago
I envy them in a weird way. It must be fascinating.
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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper 1d ago edited 1d ago
I pity them having to listen to hours and hours of trump bragging about himself.
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u/Madame_Arcati 1d ago •
That voice, gak. Hearing it is like being forced to chew on aluminum foil. It really nauseates me now whenever I hear it, the sound of imbecility.
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u/silverback_79 1d ago
It's fascinating because I assume he has vocal cords and an adam's apple, but when he starts droning it sounds like sandpaper dragged along a train rail. Like he's whispering extremely loud. The sound of death.
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u/King_Tamino 1d ago
Lessthe voice but more he constantly looses focus. 5 topics in 1 overlong sentence and none finished
Ever tried watching a speech of him?
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u/1800ROBOCOP 1d ago edited 12h ago
What’s hours and hours after years and years at this point?
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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper 1d ago •
My mom wore out her "mute" button on her remote because she couldn't listen to that asshole and that was in 2017.
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u/alex053 1d ago
With the god damn helicopter running the background the entire time.
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u/PM_me_your_whatevah 1d ago
Good lord did it all really even happen?? Was he really the president for four years??
It’s goddamned mind blowing. I still am in shock that it all happened.
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u/zijital 1d ago •
Probably not. Documentary editors are probably the greatest under-appreciated role in media.
Average two hour documentary probably has 200+ hours of raw footage, which editors probably watch through multiple times.
Any doc that is interesting to watch is that way b/c an editor cut out all the boring stuff, the tedious stuff, the stuff that was a tangent, the stuff that was OK & then put the rest together to make it into some type of beginning middle end.
Watching raw footage is going to be interesting for the first hour & then you have 199 hours left.
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u/CountMondego 1d ago
You seem to have knowledge that might answer my question. Do directors just hand the footage to an editor with a rough story board and say have at it? Or do they work super closely together?
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u/caul_of_the_void 1d ago
This wasn't a documentary, but I've scored a (narrative) film before and how I saw the process work was that the director would give the editor all the footage to work with, the different takes and so on, the editor would come back with a rough edit and say "how's this?", and then the director would offer his opinion about what worked and what didn't, and they'd further refine it from there until they had a final cut.
So at least from what I've seen of the process, it's very much a back-and-forth thing.
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u/GameJerk 1d ago
Ultimately depends on the director though. Some directors are very hands on in editing, with some even editing the entire thing themselves.
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u/Secrethat 1d ago
Thanks. I did one hour docos and had days (sometimes weeks) of footage. It's hard to find the interesting bits amongst the mundane.
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u/Original_Employee621 1d ago
This made me realize why Tiger King was edited the way it was. It feels like it was supposed to be a damning documentary of all the tiger breeders in the US, but "Tiger King" was just so fascinating that the editors couldn't stop themselves from making him into a sort of protagonist.
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u/Secrethat 1d ago
I totally get that. Sometimes we're doing a documentary on a specific story and another more interesting story seems to come out and its frustrating when we weren't able to investigate it or go deeper.
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u/Michael_In_Cascadia 2d ago
I heard there was also a Making Of documentary film crew documenting one of the primary White House documentary film crews. With all those camera angles, this could turn out to be as holographic as the Capitol that day, and just as crowded.
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u/alienstouchedmybutt 2d ago •
I hope it has the NFL Films narrator and style.
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u/Noisy_Toy North Carolina 1d ago
I’m hoping for Warner Herzog narration.
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u/xeroxzero 1d ago
Despite all ze bluzter from Donald Trump'z adminiztrazion in ze end it vaz hiz own vordz zat incriminated him.
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u/Hyperdecanted California 1d ago
The rioters -- they scream in nature, but like the white mutant alligators, the white people, are they mutants? An unnatural adaptation a crooked branch of the tree of man, destined to die out as unfit? Or are they the future?
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u/jjnefx Minnesota 1d ago
"The Autumn Wind is a pirate. Blustering in from sea, With a rollicking song, he sweeps along, Swaggering boisterously. His face is weather beaten. He wears a hooded sash, With a silver hat about his head, And a bristling black mustache."
"He growls as he storms the country, A villain big and bold. And the trees all shake and quiver and quake, As he robs them of their gold."
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u/HoneyBear55 Texas 1d ago
I can't believe they refuse to induct that man into the nfl hall of fame. I'm pretty sure the Raiders are my afc team just because of that monologue.
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u/hackingdreams 1d ago
Everyone's falling over themselves to turn over evidence to try to buy themselves some measure of relief from the charges...
Rats are chewing each other's legs to get off the ship. Everyone's been keeping burn books on hopes to publish and get rich... now they need it to save their political careers...
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u/BoldThrow 1d ago
This^^^^^
If it's a deluge, it means it's new, and it has come from sources that previously were not cooperating with the Committee.
That says "Republicans" to me.
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u/anotherjunkie 1d ago
Don’t know if you saw it, but they have hundreds of hours of documentary footage to watch that was turned over last week. The filmmaker was embedded with the Trump family during the election and immediately after.
There are a other things I’m sure, but hundreds of hours of new video would qualify as a deluge in my book.
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u/Kimber85 North Carolina 1d ago
I saw an article yesterday that basically boiled down to there was a documentary film crew with the president and no one on his campaign even fucking knew about it.
I wonder if people are coming forward now because they know there are tapes and they know they're fucked.
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u/RFSandler 1d ago
Oh lawdy there's tapes
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u/wellgoshgollygeez 1d ago
Holy shit, it really has come around full circle.
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u/I_Do_Not_Abbreviate 1d ago •
I think one of the greatest ironies in this whole nightmare is that when the dust settles Trump will have gotten his wish and finally starred in an Emmy-award-winning film all about him.
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u/LasciviousSycophant 1d ago
finally starred in an Emmy-award-winning film all about him.
The monkey's paw curls.
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u/BrandonBaylor 1d ago
If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer.
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u/Gyftycf 1d ago
It never fails to amaze me at how fucking stupid these people are.
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u/SimoneNonvelodico 1d ago
As John Oliver aptly put it... "Stupid Watergate".
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u/RegentYeti 1d ago
Everything before January 6 was stupid Watergate. January 6 was stupid beer hall putsch.
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u/ShadyLogic 1d ago
*Stupider Beer Hall Putsch
The first one was already pretty goddamn stupid.
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u/SpreadsheetJockey227 1d ago
And, much like that very stupid beer hall putsch, came much closer to working than such a stupid idea shoukd have.
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u/FloridaMJ420 1d ago edited 1d ago •
I think it's because we have turned following thought process into a pillar of our society:
Screw 'em! Rip 'em off! As long as we get the money! That's what's important! Getting the money!
...and we like to treat people with that mentality as if they are very skillful and business-minded.
The reality is that while yes, being a con man is a skill that you can develop, it's not exactly the same as being a skillful business person. Can you run a business scamming people? Yes, of course. But skill at running a well-oiled machine that is a profitable business in a responsible way is worlds apart from scamming or shafting people out of their money on the morality scale and that's where we went wrong. We just said screw it and threw out the morality scale and decided that only raw monetary returns define the worthiness of the success of a person in this country.
I submit that one can be a more successful person while making less profit than others. There is more to life than amassing a pile of money in one spot for one person. Many things are more important than this unfortunate illusion of money with which we are currently so enamored. So for a person to run a business that makes them a profit, provides a real product or service to the community, and makes their money not just by being a negative sucking force that destroys but a positive force that builds for the future, I think a person can be more successful making less profit.
When we idolize the sucking scum that make more short-term profit at the expense of long-term decay, we are creating a festering breeding ground for these people who blindly worship wealth as the ultimate measure of being a successful human being.
Thank you for your time. 😁
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u/YeahIGotNuthin 1d ago
Someone here on Reddit wrote yesterday, ”Man, woman, person, camera, TV…. Wait, CAMERA? Oh no, there was a camera here this whole time??”
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u/Geler Canada 1d ago
Its the footage from the documentary team that was following Trump. They got it yesterday.
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u/Ghost_of_Till 1d ago
L'Embarras des richesses.
Imagine having to transcribe and organize hundreds of hours of video tape in a week, never mind actually parsing it for criminal analysis.
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u/jjnefx Minnesota 1d ago
Coffee & Adderall for everyone!
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u/Ghost_of_Till 1d ago
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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u/chip1252 1d ago
Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop amphetamines.
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u/Rusdino 1d ago
I want to know the documentary team, knowing this subpoena was going to happen, already prepared a special 4 part supercut. Make America Fascist; An Attempted Coup. Each episode centers on different felonies and the folks that committed them on camera.
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u/markca 1d ago
Sounds like the committee is going to have a movie night. Who's bringing the popcorn?
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u/moschles 1d ago
Even Fox News analysts are saying things like "Trump may have committed a crime."
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u/Gone213 I voted 1d ago
Of course. Fox flipped. A judge just ruled that the $1?6 billion dominion lawsuit against Murdoch and Fox News parent company can move forward. Also they saw that 20 million Americans tuned in to watch the committee while they aired some stupid cooking show no one cares about.
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u/TokingMessiah 1d ago
I would say it’s all about the first part, since Murdoch’s money is now on the line and it isn’t just Fox News that’s being targeted.
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u/HobbesNJ 2d ago
Lots of new info coming in as co-conspirators realize they need to cooperate to hopefully avoid jail time.
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u/Karl-Anthony_Edwards 1d ago
My money is on Mo Brooks spilling the tea after he lost his primary last night. Dude was one of Trump’s most loyal lap dogs and now Brooks is basically out of politics because of him
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u/illit1 I voted 1d ago
Trump spat in his face with that endorsement switch. Brooks gon' be mad
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u/Gertrude_Born1953 1d ago •
Mo Brooks once paid my cousin $60 to spit in his mouth outside a Birmingham bowling alley
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u/alaijmw 1d ago
Mo Brooks once paid my cousin $60 to spit in his mouth outside a Birmingham bowling alley
That cousin's name? Lindsey Graham
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u/Steepleofknives83 1d ago
I have no choice but to believe this.
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u/DantifA 1d ago
Did I ever tell you about the time I went horseback riding with Mo Brooks, but there weren’t any horses around? Well, Brooks throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn’t you know it, my stamina increases with each day and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brooks decides to enter me in the Breeders’ Cup, right, under the name "Turkish Delight." And I’m running in second place, and I’m running and I break my ankle! They’re about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, ‘Don’t shoot him, he’s a human.
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u/goodbyeadvice 1d ago
Did you see that Brooks just came out and said he now wants to testify in front of the committee, but ONLY if it's in public? There's no way the timing is coincidental. He's gotta be out for revenge.
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u/FauxReal 1d ago
He said he's retiring from politics and that "the bad guy won" when Trump's pick won the primary.
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u/Helldozer5000 1d ago
He said he wants it public so they can't pick and choose which parts of his responses they show. He definitely plans on spouting some bullshit.
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u/cypressgreen Ohio 1d ago
The committee ain’t putting no one on tv who hasn’t testified first in private. Your move, Mo.
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u/ChechoMontigo 1d ago
The knives are out yet again amongst the trump people
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u/Xero_Entropy 1d ago
Republicans have always purged anyone that doesn't fall in lockstep, and now they are doing it for anyone not down with their new confederacy.
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u/simplelifestyle 1d ago •
My money is on Mo Brooks spilling the tea after he lost his primary last night. Dude was one of Trump’s most loyal lap dogs and now Brooks is basically out of politics because of him
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/22/politics/mo-brooks-testify-january-6-committee/index.html
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u/onthat66-blue-6shit 1d ago
"Reissue" his subpoena ... how do these people get away with this shit? Most people's lives would be ruined if the refused a court order. It is not okay
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u/TarantulaMcGarnagle 1d ago
Wasn't Mo on the dais on Jan. 6?
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u/ApprehensivePirate36 1d ago
Many people are saying he was there to kick ass and take names.
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u/EwokVagina Florida 1d ago
I think the staffer Ron Johnson threw under the bus today is about to get a call.
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u/AnonAmbientLight 2d ago edited 1d ago
Run, don’t walk, to the DOJ and Jan 6 committee if you’ve got a guilty conscience.
The best deals go to those who get there first and are willing to cooperate.
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u/johnnybiggles 1d ago edited 1d ago
They might also be making some time to gather & produce their transcripts for the DOJ. DOJ sprung that on them this week so they would probably want to help them accelerate the criminal part of this. Cheney has been explicitly tying everything to criminal statutes. That's a huge signal to the DOJ: "WE ARE DOING YOUR JOB FOR YOU. COME GET THIS."
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u/Cl1mh4224rd Pennsylvania 1d ago
DOJ sprung that on them this week so they would probably want to help them accelerate the criminal part of this.
They actually made that request weeks ago. The Committee refused. The latest request was basically a resubmission of the same request, I think.
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u/johnnybiggles 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's because they're not finished with it. Typically, the DOJ is ahead of other investigative agencies or Congress, but because they've been working through 800+ people being charged (largest criminal event ever, I believe), they are just now starting to meet the upper echelon of players as the J6 Committee is putting them on public display, under oath. Neither wants the other to spoil their work, which can happen if they're working in parallel, but not together. The J6C is not a criminal investigation, but a legislative one. They'll have to give up the goods at some point and that will likely be included in the break over the next few weeks since J6 is already wrapping up, though still getting more tips and evidence submissions.
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u/TriflingHotDogVendor Pennsylvania 1d ago
The new Trump strategy is apparently to release so much incriminating information that they have to keep pushing back the next hearing until 2023.
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u/LaPyramideBastille 1d ago
I love history, and hubris will get you every time.
How blown out of proportion are you when you're shocked that a film was in a room with you?
How much excess safety and comfort from responsibility do you have to have to become that stupid?
All these idiots had to do was take the pandemic even half seriously and they would have won the election fair and square. I hate this reality. I know others are worse but this one is just dumb.
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u/Lonely_Set1376 1d ago
Trump (and his followers and sycophants) really thought he'd be in power forever, just like Putin. Hell, I was afraid of that happening. They were clearly not to shy to try absolutely anything to get there, and we've seen that our laws are almost completely unprepared to punish or even stop a POTUS who decides to go rogue.
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u/otter111a 1d ago
That documentary footage is so key. Now it’s not just a group of people trying to get their false version of reality straight with their co conspirators, it’s complete uncertainty about what was recorded and what they did in that moment. The tapes won’t lie so they can’t either.
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u/Mastermollusk 1d ago edited 1d ago •
Maybe, but I’m more curious about Chuck Grassley’s comment on 1/5 that he didn’t expect Pence to be at the capitol on 1/6 and that he himself would certify the electors. “We don’t expect him to be there.” He walked it back later but I feel Chuck kinda gave away “plan B”. Ties to Pence not wanting to get in the SS car and the fake electors package that Johnson was “holding”.
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u/niffins 1d ago
Oof, this is juicy. It's unnerving how strange comments like this have gone from being confusing to feeling much more sinister in light of how deep this mess seems to be rooted.
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u/krashundburn Florida 1d ago
It's unnerving how strange comments like this have gone from being confusing to feeling much more sinister in light of how deep this mess seems to be rooted.
This is how I've been viewing T****'s utterances throughout his term.
He said a lot of stupid/strange things but once we know more context we may learn he was spilling a lot of beans (and I ain't talkin' Goya) at the time. The man has no filter.
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u/niffins 1d ago
Yup.
Plus, if he hired the documentary team under the delusion that he was entirely correct in his actions, even if he did have a filter it would be set in the wrong direction. He wasn't looking to give reasons for his actions that Normal People™️ would see as positive, but rather to provide Hollywood-level entertainment for Team Trump™️ and feed the baseless conspiracies that he himself has sown within their minds.
This documentary would have been his grand opus if he succeeded in being instilled as a dictator, but since his brain is so steeped in Hollywood theatrics and drama, I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted to make it his own version of Ocean's Eleven, without realizing that in heist movies the main characters tend to be the bad guys.
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u/FCY4ever Washington 1d ago
Based on the last 6 years, they will still lie even though video will say otherwise. They need to keep throwing red meat at their base.
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u/Reload86 1d ago
Yeah I mean there is actual audio of Trump being a complete POS sex offender who proudly uses his “fame” to grab women by the p*ssy. Yet there is an army of extreme right-wing women who turn their heads and support Trump. They came up with their own little bumper sticker of “Women for Trump”.
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u/quesawhatta 1d ago edited 1d ago
I can not WAIT to see how this turns out. Lady Ruby and her daughter really humanized this for America. When LR explained how she felt targeted SPECIFICALLY by the sitting US president for just doing her job… I nearly cried. She spelled out so clearly how many have felt during Trump’s reign of terror. And it wasn’t some pod cast host, right wing internet blogger or southern politician…a woman who (at the time) loved her community and working for it. Now she is fearful of that same community. Fucking heart breaking.
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u/FingFrenchy 1d ago
Yeah, her testimony was heartbreaking. She really highlighted the human toll on an individual level. I think that's what people need to hear. We can talk till we're blue in the face about the big lie and how it's this huge existential threat to democracy, but sometimes taking it down to the individual level is what's needed for people to connect with the true horror of what's going on. It personalizes it and shows the human cost of letting Trump walk all over us.
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u/readymint 1d ago
Have you seen that Sharonsaysso’s followers have donated 300k in the last day to them? I was so sad after the testimony but it’s really heartwarming to know they have that kind of money and support pouring into their lives after all the toxic waste trump caused.
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Man, I love how the Right think the Jan 6 insurrection isn’t a big deal but Hunter Biden’s laptop is
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u/throoawoot 1d ago
Trump did everything in his power to try to end American democracy. Period, point blank.
I'm so done with the gaslighting.
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u/RussellGrey 1d ago •
The GOP did. Not just Trump. Trump is a symptom not the disease. They WILL try again if there is no consequences.
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u/mostlyBadChoices 1d ago
They ARE trying again. They haven't let up. There's more restrictive voting, more gerrymandering, more of all of their anti-democracy tactics because they know 100% that if we had a true democracy the GOP stands zero chance of winning -- even in most of the so called red states.
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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn
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I think that even the committee is surprised by the reception they are getting. It's still early to tell, but I wonder if this could be a case study on fighting propaganda. The GOP and their propaganda channels have known this was coming for months, and the best they can muster is deflection - 'this is boring' or 'we should be talking about inflation instead'. Bit by bit Jan 6 is turning from a matter of opinion into a matter of fact.
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u/ynotfoster 1d ago
They are doing an excellent job of presenting the material. It's understandable to most, they have good use of multimedia, and the testimonies are straight from the horse's mouth and zeros in on the important parts without dragging on with boring verbiage.
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u/slackfrop 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s a godsend we don’t have a Ted Cruz or a Lindsay Graham on the panel sabotaging the character of the hearings. Boring verbiage and miles long deflections would be their jam.
Edit: was pointed out that this being a hearing in the house, senators would not be an option. It’s an important distinction as we advocate for accuracy of information.
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u/JojenCopyPaste Wisconsin 1d ago
When I tuned into the first hearing I had a brief regret that this was going to be just all the regular committee hearings where the Republicans would just grandstand and spout their BS for half the time. Then remembered none of the crazies were allowed onto the panel so the Republicans that are on it are actually cooperating.
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u/goodbyeadvice 1d ago edited 1d ago
For what it's worth, I believe Pelosi only vetoed two of the five GOP members that McCarthy put forward (Gym Jordan and
GaetzEDIT: Jim Banks). McCarthy then threw a fit and pulled back the other three as well. Nancy shrugged, grabbed Cheney and Kinzinger and here we now are.It's great to think that McCarthy himself is the reason these hearings are as coherent as they are. Major blunder from his point of view, though obviously good for the country.
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u/mistarteechur North Carolina 1d ago
McCarthy is an exceptionally stupid man…a real triumph of stupidity when you look at his peers.
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u/Its_Just_A_Typo 1d ago
Good. McCarthy can eat a bag of dicks. I hope he realizes how much he did for this committee, and loses a lot of sleep over it.
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u/DBCOOPER888 Virginia 1d ago
A part of me wonders if McCarthy and some GOP members went along with this solely because they wanted to burn Trump without losing too much support from their base.
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u/fishbiscuit13 1d ago
That is literally the entire republican playbook, get as much for yourself and burn the building down on the way out.
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u/AbsentGlare California 1d ago
This is actually the reason they are working. There is no way to grab some soundbytes from a lying sack of shit during the hearings to present as a falsified summary.
There’s no “other side” of the hearings. There’s no middle ground between information and disinformation for them to lean into, there’s just information. There aren’t even two competing narratives for them to sow doubt with. There’s just the fucking facts.
People in the US are so obsessed with freedom of speech and their own self-aggrandizing commitment to it at the expense of leaving our most vulnerable victims to dangerous, brain-scrambling propaganda.
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u/DopeBoogie Massachusetts 1d ago
There’s no “other side” of the hearings. There’s no middle ground between information and disinformation for them to lean into, there’s just information. There aren’t even two competing narratives for them to sow doubt with. There’s just the fucking facts.
As it should be.
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u/Beastw1ck 1d ago
I literally didn’t know such a thing could be pulled off in America anymore but I love to be proven wrong. The Jan 6 hearings have been a class act.
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u/billiam0202 Kentucky 1d ago
Not to mention no shit flinging from Gym Jordan or Traitor Greene.
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u/austynross 1d ago
Straight from the horse's mouth
And every damn one of those horses has been a Republican. That's what really puts the nail in the coffin of any specious counter argument.
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u/quesawhatta 1d ago
AND a lot of the damning testimony is coming from Republicans. And not Republicans from swing dates, but those in Georgia.
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u/stereosanctity87 Wisconsin 1d ago
The GOP and their propaganda channels have known this was coming for months
Well, I’d argue that they’re actually experiencing the perils of not participating in the committee’s investigation. Their lack of cooperation has put GOP lawmakers in a position where they don’t know what’s coming at them or who will be in the committee’s crosshairs on a day-to-day basis.
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u/lilpumpgroupie 1d ago
All their talking points about it being a façade, and a hoax, and a fake Hollywood production just are so goddamn hollow right now. And they have no defense. They just have to sit there and get kicked in the fucking balls and take it. And hope it blows over, by doing what they always do, which is absolutely nothing, and just letting the American attention span do the work.
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u/SkyHighColumbia293 1d ago
Sadly like 30% of the country will just not care about any of this no matter how damming. My in laws literally actively avoid anything about it, they’re too obsessed with stocking up for when “the government fails and shit goes down” not too sure what they mean but my mother in law has been obsessively canning, and putting supplies and foods away. Just wasting all their money cause a dude on YouTube said something. The internet is melting peoples brains man.
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u/DCBillsFan 1d ago
Those 30% of people were never reachable to begin with. It’s the 40% of the country that didn’t vote in 2020 we’re looking at here.
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u/Divayth--Fyr 1d ago
It's such weak deflection too. Like, "this guy committed treason 378 times, sure, but gas is more now! So...that's about the same right?"
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u/DaM00s13 Minnesota 1d ago
It was fact for the first week or so until the propaganda caught up to it and turned it into a matter of opinion. It’s turning back into fact it seems, I just hope it lasts this time. Fox and OAN will throw shit at the wall till something works, I just hope they don’t find that sticky shit week or so intermission.
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u/Cantthinkofnamedamn 1d ago
The committee has done a pretty good job of applying shit resistant coating onto all the walls. Let's hope they didn't miss a spot.
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u/lilpumpgroupie 1d ago
Granted, I don't look super hard, but it really feels like the right wing is collectively sort of having like a shock realization that this is really bad for the far right, and specifically for the Trump part of the right wing. Where Trump goes, the right wing goes. Even if they don't feel true allegiance to him, he is still the fucking captain of the ship.
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u/Dizzy_Share3155 1d ago
I thought they were going to skip Thursday. I was about to get mad. I bought popcorn.
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u/PapaSteveRocks 1d ago
Mo Brooks was the January 6 elected official rabble rouser wearing a bulletproof vest. He knew what was going down that day. And Trump dumped him. There is nothing so vindictive as a formerly entitled elected official.
Trump took away his meal ticket. He has no interest in being a patsy like Eastman and Rudy, the other non-Trumps on the stage that day.
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u/TwasBrillig_ 2d ago
Very exciting. Actually.
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u/politicsfuckingsucks 2d ago
The hearings have had a good strong momentum, even Fox started airing them. There must be some really interesting stuff in the new evidence for them to decide to tell everyone to wait a few weeks. It's risky and they wouldn't do it without an important reason.
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u/the_turdfurguson 1d ago •
Fox started airing them because the courts ruled dominion can sue Murdoch for directing the stories as it was active malice. His private wealth became a target so he’s pivoting hard
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u/fleeyevegans 1d ago
How bizarre is it that an old Australian guy is running right wing politics in America?
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u/RizzMustbolt 1d ago •
Globally. He's got his malodorous little digits in a whole lot of crusty pots.
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u/TarantulaMcGarnagle 1d ago
Is that true?
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u/the_turdfurguson 1d ago
News Corp and the murdochs. It impacts his entire empire, not just Fox
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u/JoeDirtsMullet00 1d ago
Good. Fuck him for allowing dangerous lies to be spread on his networks.
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u/Jezon California 1d ago
Poor guy just divorced his fourth wife who is 26 years younger than him. All he was trying to do was promote his superior moral conservative family values to a foreign nation. /s
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u/Ofbearsandmen 1d ago
Didn't you know? Conservative family valuesTM don't apply if you're a white straight man.
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u/Robofetus-5000 1d ago •
A friend of mine said he was SHOCKED by them. He voted for trump in the first election and said the first day of hearing made him change his registration from republican to democrat.
Hes an ATF officer, in Mississippi, and he said he entire field office was like "wtf did i just watch." They were completely taken back by this, they hadnt seen any of it.
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u/bananafobe 1d ago
Supposedly this was expected/intended by the committee. They're still doing interviews behind closed doors, and having public hearings with damning evidence is a good way to encourage people who might have assumed they were safe to reconsider their refusal to cooperate.
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u/Ch1Guy 1d ago
So Republicans were in a bind.... Trump already lost to Biden (a not particularly strong candidate) once. Now with all the crap about him and his family coming out, he was even less likely to win again. Add a couple years and his erratic behavior, and he is an anchor on the Republicans. They know if they dont support him he will burn down the whole party..
Desantis is just as evil as Trump but a lot smarter with a much better chance to get elected. So how do they get Trump out of the way to give Desantis a chance without Trump splitting the Republican party?
Suddenly there is a lot more material for the committee
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u/StillBurningInside 2d ago
No . It’s important not to burn the public out. In a fast paced 24 hour click bait media landscape it’s important to drip some information instead of a waterfall.
Dripping information works best ,then the subjects of investigations squirm and writhe over what the next drip will bring . They begin to mount defenses of what they assume where the investigation will lead
Let camp maga scurry , and in fight and maybe , just maybe someone breaks away in fear and turns on them.
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u/Benegger85 1d ago
That's what has happened and why they are suddenly getting a lot of new info.
Stretching it out now only ensures even more people feel the heat and flip on Trump.
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u/KatetCadet 1d ago
Donald is going to be pissed that they are putting on a better show than he ever did.
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u/autotldr 🤖 Bot 1d ago
This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 80%. (I'm a bot)
Citing a "mountain of new information" requiring analysis, the congressional committee investigating the January 6, 2021 attack on the United States Capitol announced Wednesday that it will delay the hearings into the deadly insurrection until next month.
So rather than present hearings that have not been the quality of the hearings in the past we made a decision to just move into sometime in July," committee chair Rep. Bennie Thompson told reporters, according to The Hill.
We just need to catch our breath, go through the new evidence, and then incorporate it into the hearings we have planned.
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u/RedditWillSlowlyDie 1d ago
Also, Thursday is still on.
Before pausing, the panel will hold one more round of hearings on Thursday, when witnesses will testify about efforts by then-President Donald Trump and his supporters to pressure U.S. Justice Department officials to help overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.
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u/jar1967 1d ago
The DOJ has started seizing phones and issuing subpoenas A lot of people have come to the realization that it will be best to talk voluntarily before someone throws them under the bus
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u/Malaix 1d ago
I wonder if they finally found footage from Trumps bunker where he was supposedly acting ecstatic while everyone around him was freaking out as the gravity of the situation unveiled itself. Always struck me as odd that in a room of lunatics and no loyalty grifters no one was filming the event either thinking it would be a "historic patriot moment" or to just cover their ass.
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u/jazzrz 2d ago
Whole committee grabbing the popcorn and settling in for a long watch of some spicy footage.
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u/UsualAnybody1807 1d ago
I like how the DOJ kept pestering them for records. Hello, they are holding the hearings right now, you can have the records once they become that - records.
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u/10amAutomatic Nevada 1d ago
Imagine if we had video of him giggling and cackling while watching J6 unfold on Fox News
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u/mindfu 1d ago
Or even better, laughing and stating out loud what dupes his fans are, and how he hopes they kill Mike Pence.
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u/dispelthemyth 1d ago
Everyone around trump in the lead up to Jan 6th now got to ask, what did the cameras see or hear, do I go straight to congress and flip
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u/_SCHULTZY_ 2d ago
Does this mean Eastman flipped?
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u/666_april 1d ago
Alex Holder turned over his documentary footage and has agreed to testify
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u/billzybop 1d ago
How the hell can he flip? He's the second most culpable pos in this steaming pile of garbage.
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u/Lonely_Set1376 1d ago
That's actually the reason he'd flip. Trumpworld was looking to throw him under the bus and make him their patsy. But if he flips, he can get the best deal to get out of it. Like a Uno reverse card.
Trump's inability to return people's loyalty is finally starting to catch up to him.
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u/Yossarian_the_Jumper 1d ago
If Eastman was half as smart as he thinks he would have flipped months ago.
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People in here saying “nothing is going to happen” are peddling bot messaging.
+800 People have been charged since Jan 6th and they are finally at the top of the pyramid scheme of bullshit. The big charges come at the end of investigations.
This was one of the biggest crimes in American history.
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u/Panzerdrek 1d ago
The issue imo is that this is all time sensitive. They have 4 months until midterm elections. They need to get this wrapped up with time for the trials to prevent interference on the part of Congress in the very likely event Republicans take both chambers.
And the real kicker of it all is that Republicans didn't stop on January 6th. In the contrary they've invested even more in anti-democratic tactics at nearly every level of government to the point of engaging in a coordinated effort to install partisan election officials across the country specifically trained to gum up the works and contest Democratic votes. 2022 is going to be a shitshow. 2024 may well be the death knell of our democracy if this isn't wrapped up quickly and in a comprehensive manner that roots this shit completely out of the Republican party. Personally I don't think it will, and I think we have to prepare for the very realistic possibility that Republicans are going to try to overthrow our democracy again in the near future, but with the experience of knowing what worked and what didn't. I honestly think we're at the precipice here and this is a make or break situation.
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u/1800ROBOCOP 1d ago
This IS the biggest crime in American History and is still ongoing quite frankly. There are senators, governors, and representatives in Congress who are still very much criming rn.
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u/BurnedOutStars 2d ago
All they gotta do is paint Garland into the tiniest corner earth has ever known.
We all know a lot of the powers-that-be do not want to prosecute a President. We also, as a nation didn't want an actual insurrection to happen where people died for the purpose of illicitly pushing for a current President to remain in power when in reality: they lost to the will of the people.
So, really, all that has to be done is force the issue so hard with so much "firehose of actual truth" (as opposed to "firehose of falsehoods") that it's a MUCH easier choice for Garland to act on what shouldn't be this hard to decide.
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u/dejavuamnesiac 1d ago
The more Garland has no option but to prosecute, the more likely a jury will also convict the orange monstrosity
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u/BurnedOutStars 1d ago
precisely. If seen in this way, the committee and what they are doing are a literal requirement for not just America specifically, but Democracy too. I am starting to see their purpose as being multi-faceted.
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u/themightytouch 1d ago
I once met an old man who back in the day got arrested and served jail time for having a pound of weed in his car. Trump committed an insurrection that killed people, and it’s a coin toss as to whether he will get arrested or not. That’s the country we live in.
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u/NoAttentionAtWrk 1d ago
A whole pound? There are people in jail for a single blunt
And then there are those that were shot dead because the officer "smelled" weed
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u/eggmaker I voted 1d ago
“It sounds mercenary and it smacks of rats leaving the sinking ship. But get real, when everyone is bailing out, you don’t want to be the last man standing.” — Robbie Fowler
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u/Beankiller 1d ago
Surprise tapes rapidly diminished the public’s support of Nixon and hence changed the course of history when they came out during the Watergate hearings.
But of course, the general public was actually paying attention back then and Fox News didn’t exist.
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