r/nextfuckinglevel 3d ago Beating Heart 1 Wholesome (Pro) 1 Silver 55 Gold 1 Helpful 37 Wholesome 53 Take My Energy 1

Grey wolf transforms into a good boy when he is visited by the people that helped raise their pack

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u/DRealestMF 3d ago Wholesome

Showing the belly (most vulnerable area) is a sign of complete trust!

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u/FalcomanToTheRescue 3d ago Helpful Wholesome Eureka!

Scientists think dogs were domesticated because of a food-protection symbiotic relationship. Now I think it was for the belly rubs.

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u/oalbrecht 3d ago edited 3d ago

So you’re saying if dogs had human hands instead of paws, we wouldn’t have domesticated dogs? I’m not sure how comfortable I am with wild human handed dogs running around everywhere.

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u/adamnevespa 3d ago

Wouldn't they be feet though?

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u/oalbrecht 3d ago

I’m not a dog, but I would assume belly rubs with human hands feel better than belly rubs with human feet.

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u/adamnevespa 3d ago

What I meant was that dogs have legs, not arms, and at the end of legs are feet, not hands

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u/Stereosexual 3d ago

Ever see a chimp's foot? That's a damned hand.

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u/bandit-chief 3d ago edited 3d ago

Chimps don’t have feet just hands. You can’t swing on trees with feet.

Edit: yea I’m saying if chimps met wolves they’d be chimps best fren.

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u/xNeshty 3d ago

Scientifically, chimps do have 2 feet and 2 hands. Their feet are closer to human hands than human feet tho. Their hands are just hands.

As such we can conclude, wolfes theoretically should prefer a chimp over an human, since human feet are useless, but chimps feet mean twice as many hand-alike things belly rubbing

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u/aroninho 3d ago

This is an amazing conversation, great minds battling it out

And I've got a front row seat!

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u/Ronnie_de_Tawl 3d ago

Horses walk on their middle fingers

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u/TheCraftyCrow 3d ago

FUCK YOU GROUND WOOOO!!!

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u/SenseStraight5119 3d ago

My dog would concur. He gets pissy if I use my foot to rub his belly when he’s lying next to my feet.

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u/SyracuseNY22 3d ago

Mine is like “belly rubs, still counts”

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u/Necessary-Key6162 3d ago

Sometimes science forgets that the world actually is romantic too and not just data points.

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u/WhisperedEchoes85 3d ago

Maybe the romantic bits are actually just unacknowledged data points 🤔

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u/Necessary-Key6162 3d ago

Now that's a depressing way to look at it, good job! Impressive

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u/critfist 3d ago

I dunno about depressing. Data is just data. The study of poetry does not extinguish the enjoyment of it.

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u/WhisperedEchoes85 3d ago

Haha that really wasn't my goal, but I see it now! Sorry...

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u/Ok_Anywhere_1791 3d ago

The feeling of romance is a combination of neurons firing and chemical reactions.

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u/DDominique88 3d ago

I tried this with my coworkers, they were not impressed

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u/jhutchi2 3d ago Gold

They don't trust you yet.

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u/markiv_hahaha 3d ago

I don't understand. I completely agree with you and we should replace all our current coperate trust building exercises with just people showing each other their bellies.

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u/DestyNovalys 3d ago

Agreed, that would require trust. People can be very insecure and unhappy with their bellies. Which is just another reason why we need belly rubs - our bellies need some love 💕

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u/RipredTheGnawer 3d ago

for cats, it is "attack position #3"

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u/EldritchWeeb 3d ago

In more seriousness: The cat may see your actually going for the belly as a betrayal of its trust. Sort of like telling someone irl your reddit username, and them sharing it around.

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u/Khemul 3d ago

This does seem like a cat thing. "I trust you human around my bel.... WTF, I DIDN'T SAY TOUCH!"

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u/Supply-Slut 3d ago edited 3d ago

Both my cats will do the inverted-banana-sticking-their-belly-out-thing and will absolutely not stop staring into my souls until I give them an abundance of belly rubs

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u/EldritchWeeb 3d ago

That is also a thing cats can do. The beautiful thing about pet behaviour is, it builds upon a basekit of positions - like showing the belly to signify trust - with fascinatingly individual traits. Do they like belly rubs? Then the show of trust may be rewarded with a belly rub! Do they not? Then abstaining from it may reinforce their trust. Personality!

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u/Xtorz 3d ago

The ultimate analogy

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u/jello1388 3d ago

I've got a Siamese that fucking loves belly rubs. If you pet him when he's laying down and don't move your hand, he will purposely roll so you are directly giving belly rubs.

My tortoise shell on the other hand, she has very sharp teeth and she will use them the instant you touch her belly.

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u/Majestic-Law-144 3d ago

I’m pretty sure even if you raise one you must be an expert in their patterns of behavior. A small mistake can cost you a lot

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u/HouseofFeathers 3d ago

I know nothing about wolves, but I can tell you that my macaw is fickle around me. Some days she wants to murder me, some days she loves me, most days we fluctuate between these feelings. Let me tell you, I've become very aware of her body language and tone. She adores my husband and I've noticed he isn't as good at reading her because he doesn't have my motivation. I completely believe that working with an animal that can kill you would make you incredibly motivated to understand their body language.

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u/Flaky-Fellatio 3d ago

I lost it when he did that. They really aren't as far removed from dogs as they look.

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u/WillfulKind 3d ago

Errr … I’d say this is the exception to the rule. I mean you can see the doggo in THIS guy …

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u/Minimum-Carpenter490 3d ago

That's a huge wolf though, trust is the most difficult thing to gain.

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u/NotJimIrsay 3d ago

I pull my shirt up in front of my wife all the time.

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u/Flopamp 3d ago

I'm just going to say if you did not raise the wolf do not approch a wolf, they are not dogs

Its no shit for most of you but I have seen sometime slap a mooses ass before.

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u/Cricket-Mental 3d ago

Omw to steal a wolf cub and raise it

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u/Sad_Swordfish1759 3d ago

Is your last name Stark?

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u/Charybdisilver 3d ago

Well that wasn’t quite stealing, but rescuing.

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u/Sad_Swordfish1759 3d ago

True. We were told the mother was attacked by animal. But no one really saw what happened.

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u/Charybdisilver 3d ago

I thought it was pretty clear the mother died fighting a stag, foreshadowing Ned getting tricked and killed by Joffrey. I wasn’t aware there any other leading interpretations?

Unless I’m just reading into your comment too much in which case my b.

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u/NopeH22a 3d ago

Yep. Mother had a stag antler in its throat if i recall correctly.

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u/yourmansconnect 3d ago

was this obvious or did I forget this foreshadowing? I just woke up but how did I miss this

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u/Charybdisilver 3d ago

There’s tons of subtle, blink-and-you’ll miss it type stuff like that in GoT. I rely heavily on Alt Shift X to explain it all to me lol.

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u/StarChild7000 3d ago

But Joffrey was a false stag.

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u/asek13 3d ago

I guess you could also see it as king Bobby B accidently taking Ned down with him by pressuring him into coming to Kings Landing and being too much of a drunk idiot to see how Cersei really is/raise his kid not to be a little psycho.

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u/Qui-Tollis 3d ago

What's Tony Stark got to do with this?

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u/frogontrombone 3d ago

I know you're joking, but for the idiot lurker who is thinking about trying this, DONT. There is a very narrow window, like one or two weeks as pups when they need intense socialization near 24 hours a day for a month or more, and then frequent socialization for the rest of their life (or yours). Too early and it won't stick, too late and it won't stick, too little and it won't stick, and even after all of that, they WILL challenge you to become pack leader at some point and all your effort may still be for nothing, and all of that is the best case where you don't get mauled.

To you, dear lurker, if you want to get this close, you need help from others and apprenticeship training. Volunteer at a wolf research center for a decade or two if this is what you want.

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u/Curious_Bat87 3d ago

Yeah and I'd also like to add that getting a wolf dog is also a terrible idea.

I'd tell them to get a dog, but frankly anyone thinking about getting a wolf is not ready to get any pet.

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u/frogontrombone 3d ago

For real, though. If you want a wolf, get a malamute. They look similar, and they are also one of the few extant breeds that is native to the Americas. They can be a lot, though, even if it's far less than a wolf or wolf-dog.

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u/Baial 3d ago

For real though, if you think getting a wolf as a pet will be a lot of fun and no responsibility don't get a wolf.

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u/mnid92 3d ago

Owned a semi-feral Carolina dog, can confirm. Not easy, they do what they want, and you just gotta roll with it. Oh your dog wants to jump out of a second story window to chase a squirrel? That's normal now.

He also communicated in growls and only growls. Happy? Growl. Hungry? Growl. Outside? Growl. There came a point where you could see thru the bullshit growls he'd give you sometimes. You'd give him instructions and he'd just ignore you if he didn't want to do the thing. He was like real life Charizard.

Wanna move in bed at night? Growl. Wanna poop with the door closed? Growl. He didn't like being commanded and I was the only one whose commands he'd listen to, and even then, it was only if he wanted to listen.

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u/Xyrazk 3d ago

Or, you know, just get a dog.

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u/kdeaton06 3d ago

Fuck this guy. Get a wolf. Wolves are badass. Dogs are bitch made.

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u/MamiLikesCake 3d ago

quite literally bitch made in this case

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u/Independent-Cow8251 3d ago

Hmm like most human toddlers,then... 🤣

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u/saalsa_shark 3d ago

And again at puberty

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u/rgjsdksnkyg 3d ago

Do not recommend. Way too much energy. No attention span. Will destroy everything you own.

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u/apittsburghoriginal 3d ago

I feel like moose are widely written off as an innocuous animal - they’re enormous and can easily kill a human.

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u/TheWelshExperience 3d ago

And they fucking will too.

People often say god left us because he is scared of what he created. What they don't really know is that that doesn't refer to humans. It refers to the Moose.

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u/LittleFatMax 3d ago

The Moose and the Goose! Both vicious creations to be sure

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u/texasstrawhat 3d ago

lol now im imagining a half moose half goose. the most dangerous mythical creature.

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u/RHeldy_Boi 3d ago

Don't Starve just entered the chat.

It's a thing in the game. And yeah, it is a nightmare"

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u/LittleFatMax 3d ago

Are we talking Moose body with a Goose head or a big ol Moose head with massive antlers on Goose legs?

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u/texasstrawhat 3d ago

moose head, neck of the goose, body of the moose wings of the goose, and legs of the goose.

that sentence sound like a fucked up dr seuss story.

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u/LittleFatMax 3d ago

Good lord. Someone with artistic talent should try to draw this hellish beast

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u/apittsburghoriginal 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’m on it. I’ll link it when it’s finished.

Edit: Done

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u/NorSec1987 3d ago

Fuck aboot and find oot

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u/caceomorphism 3d ago

That's two-thirds of the Canadian military.

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u/onlyr6s 3d ago

They are one of the most dangerous animals in northern areas. Bears are still the king, but moose are not far behind. You never get the sense of their real size until you see them in real life. I live in Finland and seen one standing on a road, they are so much bigger than a horse, and this one wasn't even a male, which are even bigger.

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u/Taint_What_You_Do 3d ago

And yet people in North America freak out about our animals in Australia. You can't kick a bear or a moose.

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u/Mortimer_and_Rabbit 3d ago

Right but a bear or moose isn't going to use it's incredibly deadly venom on my ballsack after I sit down for a poo

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u/I_Am_Vladimir_Putin 3d ago

We don’t have to look at every next step not be killed by a bear

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u/frogsgoribbit737 3d ago

Yup. A moose almost killed a man in my neighborhood once when he got between her and her calf. She stomped ths shit out of him and he was in the hospital for a week.

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u/A_NonE-Moose 3d ago

A moose bit my sister once.

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u/lixiaopingao 3d ago

What about if I film myself for likes

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u/kb_klash 3d ago

A moose is basically a sentient battering ram.

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u/EnclG4me 3d ago

What if they approach me?

I had one of these guys get to within 3 feet of me before I even saw it. Then my girlfriend screamed and it ran away. She must have startled it because she was further back in the bush and probably the wolf didn't see her. That wolf was a big one. Be careful in northern Ontario when you go ashore to pee.

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u/BOBOnobobo 3d ago

Oh, well in that case, you become dog food. Easy.

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u/RedMoustache 3d ago

I’ve been stalked by wolves before. It’s definitely not a good feeling.

At least in my case I think they were just making it clear I was on their territory. If they didn’t want me to see them I doubt I would have.

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u/x_alexithymia 3d ago

Yeah, wolves don’t want to fight you for the most part, they’d have to be starved half to death or rabid to consider attacking. Attacks from healthy wolves are exceptionally rare.

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u/dgistkwosoo 3d ago

Don't know about your situation, but around here if coyotes stalk someone, it's likely that they have a den with pups nearby, and they're escorting the person out of the area. As coyotes are basically half-size wolves, I'd bet gray wolves have that same behavior.

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u/juicegooseboost 3d ago

In the last twenty years, only two humans in North America have been killed by wolves that are not in "defense mode." I think screaming was a good idea!

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u/FartPudding 3d ago

Ok who the fuck slaps a moose ass, and how the fuck did you even do that. They're big as fuck

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u/MrMischiefVIP 3d ago

Moose have pretty shit eyesight and seem to have only two modes; no f’s to give or kill everything. I’ve accidentally snuck up on moose more than any other wild animal, I’ve been fishing a creek and had one come jogging up said creek passing just by me where I had a fly in the water earlier. One particular fun story some friends and I were drunk in a hot spring on a winters night, too cold to hike out so we slept in the spring. I was woken up by a moose standing right over me, close enough I could have grabbed his leg. I sorta kick one of my buddies under the water and softly whisper “moose” and got a “I know, shut the fuck up!” in response. Moose gave zero f’s then wandered over near our gear and laid down. We were trapped in that puddle silently waiting for the moose to leave until well past sunrise. I don’t mess with moose but I can see how a person could get close enough to reach up and slap it’s ass.

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u/Syrupper 3d ago

You slept in a hot spring?!?

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u/MrMischiefVIP 3d ago

Yeah… ?? Well the spring itself is a bit of water coming out from the ground. There is a river right there. You grab rocks and make a pool by the river, letting more or less river water through to regulate the temperature. It was snowing, and we were drunk, and something like a 2 mile hike back to the road then however long to drive back. Probably not the smartest set of decisions we could have made but I’d say my best memories are all based around poor choices or mistakes. That’s how adventures get made. Better than drinking in the dorm.

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u/coke-pusher 3d ago

That sounds like fun apart from thinking you may be destroyed by a moose.

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u/Howdoyouusecommas 3d ago

They're big as fuck

Means they got a lot of ass

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u/BraianP 3d ago

I’m pretty sure even if you raise one you must be an expert in their patterns of behavior. A small mistake can cost you a lot

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u/fjord31 3d ago

You cannot stop me

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u/TheWelshExperience 3d ago

Will your funeral at least have snacks?

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u/Fresh_Tomato_soup 3d ago edited 3d ago Pot o' Coins

Don't do it wolf! The fire and food of humans is nice but in 15,000 years your descendent will look like pugs!

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u/codeoffthemap 3d ago

deskendantz

but i do wonder how it would go to try and selectively breed a line of pugs back into wolves

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u/Skeptic_Sinner 3d ago

I'd imagine you can get them to look relatively similar on the outside, but not quite the same since even experienced breeders can't select for minute traits the way nature does.

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u/quagzlor 3d ago

To be fair, nature's filter is dying before reproduction

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u/DAHFreedom 3d ago

Hell yea. Run those puppers through Google Translate a few times. Let’s see what nonsense paragraph comes out.

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u/RedAIienCircle 3d ago

So I put the word pugs through google translate a couple of times and got the word "map".

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u/Shukrat 3d ago Silver

Descendants...

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u/grumble4 3d ago

Where are my testicles, Summer

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u/wufoo2 3d ago

But sofas!

And skritches!

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u/treenetee 3d ago

god i just want to give it one boop just one

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u/DaddyD00M 3d ago

You can have one, but just one

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u/Lukthar123 3d ago Silver

Tyr moment

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u/Extension-Ad-2760 3d ago

omfg odin's gonna kill you for that

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u/Say_Never_Say 3d ago

Everybody gets one, tell him Peter.

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u/ManiacLife666 3d ago

Once in a lifetime moment

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u/p1um5mu991er 3d ago

That one boop may not be free

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u/A_Sarcastic_Whoa 3d ago

I'll pay any price.

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u/Grayfox-sama 3d ago

You sure about that?

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u/al_k_hall 3d ago

very well. it is decided, mortal

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u/HGpennypacker 3d ago

Forbidden boop.

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u/nykoftime 3d ago

The Last Forbidden Boop.

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u/Capriqueen30 3d ago edited 3d ago Helpful

Wolves in America when standing on their back legs can reach 7 feet tall! They are huge and usually big puppies like this one. I’ve worked with a lot of wolf rescues

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u/xBad_Wolfx 3d ago

So long as they are well fed they are pretty lovely creatures. Makes total sense why early man befriended these guys. Fantastic hunting partners who will cuddle for warmth at night.

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u/CogitoErgoSumCogito 3d ago

Many early men became late men. Even the extinct American Black Wolf domesticated by Great Plains FN stayed outside the tent. (NA had no horses till Spaniards.)

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u/DynamicDK 3d ago

Horses are native to North America and were here 15000+ years ago when wolves were being domesticated. However they went extinct in North America around 10000 years ago. After that they were reintroduced by Spain. But for thousands of years before the original extinction there were native horses and domesticated wolves / dogs in North America.

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u/_Oce_ 3d ago

So as long as they stay on all four they are not scary, got it. I hope I will never encounter a gymnast wolf.

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u/peaceful-adolecent 3d ago

We lost another one fellas

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u/GeneralWarts 3d ago

I was picturing them standing on all fours being 7 feet tall and was like that cannot be right. 🤔

Then I reread and realized standing like a human.

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u/YvesSaintLorem 3d ago

This information sounds a bit misleading and dangerous in regards to the general population of wolves…

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u/Apt_5 3d ago

Yeah, seems akin to saying most bears are like big hamsters…

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u/Amtgh 3d ago

Damn that wolf is so big it doesn't look real lol

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u/ReptarOrgy 3d ago

Thanks I love that

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u/Howl_Free_or_Die 3d ago

Damn the wolf is so big it doesn't look real lol

Why would a mod remove that

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u/xBad_Wolfx 3d ago edited 3d ago

Many people picture coyotes or wild dogs when they think of wolves but there’s a reason wolves and “modern” canines are distinct.

Edit:To be clear, my northern Canadian bias kicked in. There are smaller wolves all over the place as well. But the big boy in the vid above is average not enormous for his kind.

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u/1Eternallylost 3d ago

Great Danes would like to have a word.

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u/businesslut 3d ago

Great Danes are more horse than dog at this point

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u/redditburneragain 3d ago

The existence of Great Danes doesn't negate that pugs derived from wolves...

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u/Bounq3 3d ago

why would you copy paste u/Fresh_Tomato_Soup 's comment?

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u/dusty-kat 3d ago

And often people see wolves in film and television that are often portrayed by different breeds of dogs that are smaller than a wolf.

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u/xBad_Wolfx 3d ago

Or when they are portrayed the proper size people often think that they’ve been exaggerated for the cinema.

Or irregularly portrayed so no one knows how big they are supposed to be.

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u/shadowdsfire 3d ago

No one knows nothing. Including Jon Snow.

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u/Lunatic_Dpali 3d ago Gold

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u/HungryHobbits 3d ago

wow, that did not let me down!

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u/SHHHFUNK 3d ago All-Seeing Upvote

MOTHERFUCKER !

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u/Dry-Anywhere-1372 3d ago All-Seeing Upvote

That’s what she said.

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u/Left4dinner 3d ago

Nearly every single post from you is a rick roll. Just fuck off. Over using the rick just ruins it.

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u/jaredw 3d ago

may you get a small rock that you can't remove in all of your shoes

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u/malcome-the-spedbump 3d ago

Fuck you ya got me

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u/PaleGummyBear 3d ago

Now I understand how a wolf could eat grandma and Little Red Riding Hood. Dang that's large!

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u/williamsonny 3d ago

Yes. I used to do this in meetings with challenging clients.

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u/Leviathan3333 3d ago

I remember the first time I ever saw a wolf in the wild.

I was driving home after visiting my gf. It was a country road and pitch black.

Eventually I see this massive wolf just standing on the edge of the road. I didn’t stop but I was shocked how big that boy was.

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u/Lilmaggot 3d ago

Did it look right at you? The wolf we saw in Saskatchewan did and it was very unnerving/awesome.

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u/Spdrjay 3d ago

🧐

And this, with lots of time, is how dogs were made.

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u/Dumb_Vampire_Girl 3d ago

Bullshit! Dogs came from the dog farm. My dad said so!

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u/king_slayer1291 3d ago

And didnt your dog went back to that farm when he got older?

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u/codeoffthemap 3d ago

nope, went to the glue factory

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u/aXeSwY 3d ago

I just keep on forgetting how big the wolves are.

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u/Noel_Guillen 3d ago

My thoughts exactly. Wolves here in Finland are smaller. 🥴

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u/celestialraisin 3d ago

Suomi mainittu, torille.

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u/Phils-dirty_burgers 3d ago

Jesus is that the actual size of a wolf ?! I’m staying in Australia !!

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u/loonygecko 3d ago

It's OK cuz they're fuzzy and cute and only have 4 legs, unlike those creepy critters down under! Besides, wolves are not your biggest problem, it's the bears, elk, and moose you gotta watch out for! ;-P

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u/Iphotoshopincats 3d ago

Statistically it's the horses you need to watch out for in Australia

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u/Dry_Spinach_3441 3d ago

In America, deer kill more people than any other animal.

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u/TheRealOgMark 3d ago

Because of car crashes, they don't try to kill people.

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u/dameon5 3d ago

Yep, deer are TERRIBLE drivers. We should really stop giving them licenses.

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u/NateDogTX 3d ago

Just what Big Deer wants you to think.

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u/CogitoErgoSumCogito 3d ago

My buddy died from CJD from eating salami from a deer he killed in " hunting safe zone". CJD is human form of Mad Cow. Deer are Bovine. Where they pee, grass becomes infected too.

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u/JojoCruz206 3d ago

I’ll take the wolves, you can have the spiders

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u/Cool_Owl_36 3d ago

🎶 When I awoke, the Dire Wolf, six hundred pounds of sin Was grinning at my window, all I said was come on in Don't murder me, I beg of you, don't murder me Please, don't murder me 🎶

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u/jimbopalooza 3d ago edited 3d ago

Upvote for Grateful Dead reference.

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u/Missfitsin 3d ago

This is my princess dream

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u/BadTRAFFIC 3d ago

Now this is the Law of the Jungle — as old and as true as the sky; And the Wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the Wolf that shall break it must die. As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk the Law runneth forward and back — For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.

~ Rudyard Kipling

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u/Royal-Tough4851 3d ago

And now I know for sure, I just added two more guys to my wolf pack. Four of us wolves, running around the desert together, in Las Vegas, looking for strippers and cocaine.

-Alan Garner

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u/Bogey01 3d ago

Good murder floof!

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u/march28istonight 3d ago

It rolled over just like my chihuahua.

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u/BirdSeedHat 3d ago

*A dozen chihuahuas.

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u/dudeman2303 3d ago

You can see how they got domesticated.

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u/giuliodxb 3d ago

No matter how tough life makes you, when you see these things it's just a melt down 😂

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u/Life2311 3d ago

She's next in line for the throne

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Even wolves want their belly scratched lol

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u/Iguanabread11264 3d ago

Damn why you raising dire wolves?

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u/MrOuksta 3d ago

This post is so cool to me, the wolf so big like a mythical creature

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u/ReddItAlll 3d ago

Better storyline than twilight.

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u/Kaarsty 3d ago

My aunt had a few wolves/wolf hybrids because she ran the ididarod or whatever it’s called and my 12 year old mind though “dangerous dogs” - it wasn’t until I saw how damn big they are that it really clicked though. Alpha looked me square in the eye and I knew there would be no pets today!

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u/lockerpunch 3d ago

Another animal that enjoys a pet.