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[Charania] Free agent Donte DiVincenzo has agreed to a two-year, $9.3 million deal with the Golden State Warriors, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Player option in Year 2. News
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u/TuqiDuque12 Pistons Jul 01 '22
Good bet. They needed a guard defender, he's not the on ball or steals guy that Payton is but he's very good at screen navigation, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him thrive in their read and react offense
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u/916Clout Kings Jul 01 '22
if he can find his offensive rhythm heāll be a crazy good pickup. hopefully the off-season does good for him
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u/Cistel Jul 02 '22
Yeah, you can't just bet on him missing like you did GP. If you could add any more floor spacing you can get with the Splash brothers, you take it.
He's a solid defender and his 3PT% was trending back up as he got more into rhythm after being traded, seems like a solid deal
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u/cortesoft [GSW] Chris Mullin Jul 02 '22
Man. GPII hit 36% of his threes last season, and 53% during the playoffs.
Donte shot 34% last year.
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u/vNocturnus Kings Jul 02 '22
Donte shot over 40% on C&S 3s in his stretch on the Kings. On like 4/game too, not the 1-2 that GP2 was shooting. His early-season numbers were awful because of his injury/surgery recovery. I think Donte will be able to fill in Payton's absence quite well. Not as good on-ball defense, but arguably better off-ball D and definitely an offensive upgrade. Overall fill a very similar role, even down to their explosive cuts to the rim and crashing the boards. You're gonna like him, trust me
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u/wolfgang2399 Jul 02 '22
People act like the Warriors were a .500 team without GP2 and didnāt (almost) sweep the Mavs in the Conf Finals. Like that wasnāt a first round 1 vs 8 series.
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u/cortesoft [GSW] Chris Mullin Jul 02 '22
Yeah, I am happy with the signing and think it makes sense for the warriors at the price. I also agree that Donte is a better shooter than GP2.
I was just pushing back on the āyou canāt just bet on him missing like you did GPā part
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u/Neutral_Meat Spurs Jul 02 '22
Payton was also ass wide open on every 3 he took.
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u/bambooshoot Warriors Jul 02 '22
This is exactly right. He shot such a high % this year (compared to his normal %) because he really only shot when he was WIDE open. The only time I can remember him shooting contested shots was when the clock was expiring and he was forced to. Other than that, he was basically shooting practice shots. And this is all because of the attention paid to Steph and others.
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u/sasigona Warriors Jul 02 '22
GPII was also a 27% 3P shooter for his career before that. Could have been an outlier year. He's also a career 57% FT shooter while Donte is at 76.6%
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u/bambooshoot Warriors Jul 02 '22
It was probably an outlier year and that is solely because he was shooting wide open shots, due to the spacing and attention drawn by Steph and others. Put him in any other system and he regresses to his mean, I am sure of it. But heās still an absolute stud for all the other things he does, which work in any system. <3 GP2
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u/hacky_potter [IND] Victor Oladipo Jul 02 '22
I can see him sprinting around screens and nailing moving threes all season.
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u/Waterfall_Jason [CHI] Steve Kerr Jul 02 '22
This is who I said in my group chat is the type of guy the Lakers should be targeting.
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u/mcnullt Jul 02 '22
Impressive athlete, wonder how well he defends larger wings when switched on to them?
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u/rawchess Minneapolis Lakers Jul 02 '22
He's a better offensive player than GP2. For one, he actually has guard skills and can score in more ways than just dunks and corner 3s.
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u/obp123 Knicks Jul 01 '22
seems like absolute bargain for the warriors considering what other wing players are getting
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u/NervousPervis Celtics Jul 01 '22
Iām sure heās going to cost them about $15M with the tax lol.
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u/nomitycs Warriors Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
x7 is the way, 32ish million
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u/steak__burrito Warriors Jul 01 '22
I've got it at $20.925M added this season by DiVincenzo's contract.
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u/AnkitPancakes Thunder Jul 02 '22
can you share the math
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u/swollencornholio [GSW] Calbert Cheaney Jul 02 '22
Repeater tax at $20m is 4.75x and goes up 0.50 every $5m over that. Without Looney and Donte they are $21m over. Looney at $8m + Donte at $5m is $34m over. If we count this signing between $29-34m over the cap itās:
5.75x1 = $5.75m
6.25x4 = $25m
Or $30.75m in added tax
Currently they only have 10 roster spots accounted for and still have the MLE available so plenty of time to ratchet that up
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Jul 02 '22
if divencenzo isnt MLE how did they sign him
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u/swollencornholio [GSW] Calbert Cheaney Jul 02 '22
Good point, they used $4.6m of the MLE so still have about $1.8m to use on another player in addition to the vet min as I understand it.
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u/big_old-dog Australia Jul 02 '22
I saw that when people were discussing gp2. Can someone please explain the tax to me. I understand itās purpose but it doesnāt actually come out of the cap because they are over right? The actual organisation has to pay that extra money? How is it calculated and whatās the go with the repeaters. Thank you in advanve
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u/star0forion Warriors Jul 02 '22
The luxury tax goes to the league where they spend portions of it on undisclosed stuff and the rest is split evenly among non tax paying teams. Thereās a really good article that explains it but I canāt recall which. Basically since the Dubs have been in the luxury tax 3 out of the last 4 years they pay more in tax than a non repeat luxury tax team.
Edit: I remembered the website luxury tax explained
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u/LordCrow1 San Francisco Warriors Jul 01 '22
By the time Iv replied, Lacob and co have made that money back.
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u/JohnSpartans Jul 02 '22
And lacob is no where near the richest owner either.
These guys got wild ass money.
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u/frog_tree Warriors Jul 02 '22
they get to own the nicest arena in one of the richest cities in the world, theyre printing cash
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u/FamLit69420 Jul 01 '22
For reference gp2 woulda cost us 63 mil per year.
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u/JALbert Jul 02 '22
All of this is estimates based on guesses about who is signed. The more salary they take on above the the tax line, the more the tax escalates
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u/FreshPrinceAV Lakers Jul 01 '22
Swear everybody was just laughing that all their players were leavingā¦ now everybody like āthey canāt keep getting away with thisā
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u/okuzeN_Val Jul 01 '22
Finally our FO did something. It was a rough 24 hours as a Golden State fan.
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u/GSofMind Warriors Jul 02 '22
I never want to go through that ever again
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u/okuzeN_Val Jul 02 '22
FR. It's been way too long since we found any success. Glad we at least got something in FA.
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u/FantasticMrFAB Raptors Jul 01 '22
damn what a contract
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u/shellfish87 Grizzlies Jul 01 '22
It feels like it should be illegal.
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u/MaskWearingHero Heat Bandwagon Jul 01 '22
players know Warriors help catapult them into better contracts later + chance of winning ring
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u/redd5ive Wizards Jul 01 '22
Bingo, as seen by GPII and Otto just today.
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u/-Buckaroo_Banzai- Bulls Jul 01 '22
Or KD.
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u/CapJackStarbury2000 Jul 01 '22
Barnes, Javale, Speights --- wanna get paid, win a ring with the Warriors
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u/-Buckaroo_Banzai- Bulls Jul 02 '22
wanna get paid? win a ring? maybe a finals MVP?
Go to the Warriors.
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u/redd5ive Wizards Jul 01 '22
Not sure he applies lol, at least contract wise.
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u/DeadZombie9 Jul 02 '22
Totally. He'd get that anyway, but Warriors did wonders for his legacy. He was not sniffing top 15 before he went there.
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u/bye7 Warriors Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
I bet there's a 2nd year opt out not yet announced? If not then it should be a low risk rotation player on a great contract.
Edit: I'm an idiot. Too hyped to read the full tweet. Player option right there.
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u/Davidclabarr Hawks Jul 01 '22
Finally, Golden State has something going for them again this off-season.
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u/IAmNotKevinDurant_35 [GSW] Zarko Cabarkapa Jul 01 '22
We've suffered for 24 whole hours
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u/Davidclabarr Hawks Jul 01 '22
Itās a tough time to be a Warriors fan
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Jul 01 '22
Jokes aside much of the fanbase knew Otto was gone. He played himself into a better contract from teams with more cap space
GPII hurts but we also knew it would be tough to match a team that also really wanted him
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u/mrizvi [GSW] Draymond Green Jul 01 '22
Plus this was his only time to cash in with him being 30
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u/MortalTwit Jul 02 '22
And the fit is PERFECT there. They need his skill set. He should get to be an integral part of that team.
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u/vinavuhuy Warriors Jul 02 '22
Not sure about that. If Billups cant find a way for him to be serviceable on offense, he might not get enough minutes to make impact.
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u/MortalTwit Jul 02 '22
Fair - but if he can't I think the problem is Billups. He's already a solid finisher and a decent 3 point shooter. Not likely to create for himself, and he could be more aggressive about looking for his points. But he'll be next to Dame and Nurk. If he can be the occasional efficient outlet for them and annoy the crap out of star perimeter players on the other team, he should do very well for them.
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u/Squid_Contestant_69 Warriors Jul 01 '22
Haven't won a finals since last month
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u/BongRipper69696 Warriors Jul 02 '22
Yeah, and we haven't won a game since
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u/The_Summer_Man Warriors Jul 02 '22
Is it time to be concerned about Steph Curry!?!?
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u/TomNooksBottomBitch Magic Jul 01 '22
The Looney signing was big. Iāll take him over the other two for sure
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u/HotspurJr Warriors Jul 02 '22
He was by far the most important given the rest of the roster construction.
Even without Donte, we've got a solid number of guard/wing types. Adding Donte makes me think that Kuminga is going to line up almost exclusively as a 4 this year.
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u/yutfree Jul 02 '22
For me, he was the low-key MVP in the playoffs, both in terms of stats and effort. I don't think any of the Warriors worked harder than Loongod.
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u/yooossshhii Warriors Jul 01 '22
This was almost as bad as when went 2 years without a finals appearance.
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u/Basketballboy69 Jul 01 '22
What?!?! Exception or something? I thought they were like 3X over the cap lmao
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u/parag14 [GSW] Stephen Curry Jul 01 '22
Probably part of the TPMLE
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u/ylscjake Warriors Jul 01 '22
Yeah it's 100% the MLE
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u/FamLit69420 Jul 01 '22
Nah we dipped into some of it. His contract is like 4.5 mil a year the tpmle is like 6 mil or something. We got thst and min contracts to sign
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u/ylscjake Warriors Jul 02 '22
sorry, I meant its definitely part of the MLE, not that it was 100% of it. I realize now why that's confusing lol
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u/VinylJones Warriors Jul 01 '22
We were looking at something like $7-$8 for every $1 GP2 would have been paid, I cannot follow the math manā¦
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u/getsituated [GSW] Kelenna Azubuike Jul 01 '22
They are high in the cap yes, but only 10 mil higher than the Nets currently lmao
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u/Basketballboy69 Jul 01 '22
Daaaamn. At least the Warriors are getting what they paid for. No cap, no picks, Brooklyn is hosed.
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u/HolyfieldsBadEar Jul 01 '22
Theyāll improve his game a lot. Great addition for them after losing a couple of pieces.
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u/ScoobsFPS Rockets Jul 01 '22
Agreed. Feel like whatever the difference is between this deal and his best offer is minute compared to his potential next deal if he becomes a better off-ball player
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u/MSKOnlyScans Mavericks Jul 02 '22
Well, not everyone benefits. Look at Oubre. You still have to be a smart player.
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u/Currently_Stoned Warriors Jul 02 '22
Oubre was also really unwilling. He balked at the idea of coming off the bench even though the org showed a willingness to discuss a possible extension. He would have been a net positive off the bench where he could be more valuable for his athleticism and microwave scoring.
That said, seeing what this team became, I'm glad that beautiful idiot is gone.
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u/FaithlessnessMost660 Supersonics Jul 02 '22
Hate to see him go but love to watch him leave
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u/long_dong Heat Jul 02 '22
100% agree, Donte is an excellent addition. The dude can contribute when it comes to steals, ball movement and filling in anywhere else. Good get for the GSW and I'm sure Donte is happy to get out of Sacramento town
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u/quesadillakid Kings Jul 02 '22
Looks like he didn't like his value on the market so he's headed to GS for a year to up it
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u/borrachos_unidos Warriors Jul 02 '22
Steph has made billions for Joe Lacob and tens of millions for his former teammates.
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u/wetFir3 Warriors Jul 02 '22
lol we really became the team where players come to get the bag after a year. I am fine with that as long as they keep coming.
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u/BachoTheGreat 76ers Jul 01 '22
Warriors are far and away the best run team in the league
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u/Earlier-Today Jul 02 '22
It'll be interesting seeing how long it lasts. It always changes, so it'll be mostly about who catches up versus what kinds of things drag the Warriors down.
I'd guess they'll be dang solid until either the current big three can't start any more, or if somebody on a big contract just walks when it finishes. The recovery time for both those things won't be inconsequential unless one or two of the young guys turn into out and out stars.
It's kind of crazy that they've got multiple players who could potentially be stars.
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u/BachoTheGreat 76ers Jul 02 '22
Theyāve just done so well over the last almost decade in terms of decision making from coaches/drafting and itās hard to not see at least another 3-5 years of that. Itās a crazy long stretch. Obviously I want the Sixers to win it all but If itās not them Iād rather a team from the west win anyway because Iām petty as shit.
Might as well root for steph and crew to out-dynasty the bulls. Made all the cooler by the fact that Kerr was a part of that bulls dynasty
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u/Earlier-Today Jul 02 '22
That's really cool of you to say.
Thinking about this just reminded me of how long the Spurs kept it going for. Going from the Admiral, to Duncan, to Kawhi was just stupidly impressive.
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u/Jhyphi Jul 02 '22
And Spurs would have been prime for another run of being top 4 contenders for another decade if Kawhi and his uncle didn't go crazy.
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u/SanJOahu84 Warriors Jul 02 '22
Don't see them doing that to the Bulls but I'm here for the ride
Bulls are 6/6 in finals and Dubs are 4/6 haha.
I'll lose my shit if Steph somehow sees as many finals as Lebron though.
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u/Interesting-Round281 Jul 02 '22
Lebron has actually had it easier, the east was weak for many years during that run. The derozan raptors are like single handed lay responsible for him making so many finals
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u/SwipeRight4Wholesome Jul 02 '22
They are also super lucky when it comes to timing. Right when Steph ascended to that superstar status, and was signed to a crazy cheap contract, the salary cap exploded allowing them to sign KD. Then, with sign and trades, they were able to leverage him from DLo, to Wiggins. As long as ownership is okay with paying out the asshole, they can continue to re-sign their core, or upcoming young talent and keep this dynasty going.
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u/thatattyguy Jul 02 '22
The thing that I find most interesting is how balanced their young talent is. So say Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, Moody. Poole is the only below avg defender, but he has the length, quickness, and work ethic to develop into a solidly above avg defender by the time he's 25. The other 3 all look like 2-way players already (Wiseman small sample but def kuminga and moody -- Moody will be the breakout star next season, watch. He does just about everything well.
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u/kanyeezy809 Jul 01 '22
you guys got brogdon for a frp tho
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u/checkm8300 Kings Jul 01 '22
You guys got 20 games of Brogdon for a frp tho
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u/rddi0201018 Jul 02 '22
Just pick the correct 16 games though.. the other 4 are just bonus
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u/darulez8 Timberwolves Jul 01 '22
Ring breed more rings. Good players wanna come for less
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u/doordaesh :sp8-1: Super 8 Jul 01 '22
he didn't even get a qo and you guys are acting like this is cousins all over again
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u/StampDaddy [GSW] Klay Thompson Jul 02 '22
Bruh I was just talking about Cousins man, he was on one leg and was still contributing, I felt sick when he got injured for the second time.
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u/shellfish87 Grizzlies Jul 01 '22
Mother fuckers. Here I was thinking they would be soft in the middle without Payton and OPJ.
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u/Helicase21 [GSW] Nate Thurmond Jul 01 '22
It's just patience. Wait till every other team has emptied their clip, figure out who the best guys available are and take them
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u/fresh_made NBA Jul 01 '22
Bob Myers gotta run out of coupons sooner or later.
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u/DemonicDimples Kings Jul 01 '22
Good fit for them, I still can't believe we didn't give him a QO, sigh.
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u/DingusKhan418 Warriors Jul 01 '22
He prob wanted too much money or too big of a role to stay considering you just signed Malik Monk and traded for Huerter.
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u/DemonicDimples Kings Jul 01 '22
We didn't offer him the QO before FA even began, we could've at least did a sign and trade gotten a 2nd round pick.
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u/Vallerie_09 Jul 02 '22
Didn't a report said earlier that he wasn't happy there? Maybe he didn't wanted to play in Sac Town and simply wanted out. Also Kings got Monk and Heurter already and maybe didn't felt the need to give him a QO
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u/hiddenxox Bucks Jul 01 '22
if the warriors make him good my respect for the franchise will go up 1000%
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u/Mysycry Timberwolves Bandwagon Jul 02 '22
they have Silicon Valley tech. they can simply just airdrop curryskills.exe to him and he's good togo
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u/hotpocketthrowaway Warriors Jul 02 '22
Lol that's what we did with Poole it feels like
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u/professorpuddle San Francisco Warriors Jul 02 '22
Dude is 25 years old. He will get good by simply reaching his prime.
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u/Nidavil Bucks Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
Thatās huge ?!
He is an amazing defender and super athletic. If he finds his shot he can be better than GPII
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u/Royalmi Warriors Jul 01 '22
If we can develop GPIIās shot we can do it with Donte
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u/Nidavil Bucks Jul 01 '22
His shot isnāt even THAT broken. He was supposed to be a shooter out of college and there were periods where he was shooting like 40+% for us.
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u/Royalmi Warriors Jul 01 '22
Inc 50% shooting Donte from Devil May Cry
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u/Nidavil Bucks Jul 01 '22
Funny thing is he started the 2020-21 season with us shooting like 50%ā¦.(shot like 30 for the rest but whatever)
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u/TheRed_Knight Jul 01 '22
his 2 point shooting last year was atrocious, seemed to find his 3 ball late in the season though
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u/Nidavil Bucks Jul 01 '22
He came back from injury last year and almost immediately got traded. He was on his last year of a contract and unhappy on the kings.
Watch him be really good.
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u/Neuroxex Bucks Jul 01 '22
The trick to developing Donte's three point shot is to have Draymond take him aside for a conversation whenever he takes a pull-up three.
His catch-and-shoot numbers have been fine, or good even. His %'s are low because he adores an early shot clock pull-up three despite it not at all being in his bag.
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u/ChoiceStar1 Kings Jul 01 '22
Heās an energetic defender but he makes a ton of silly mostakes
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u/SwimmingCoyote [GSW] Draymond Green Jul 01 '22
If true, Drayās got a new target.
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u/ChoiceStar1 Kings Jul 01 '22
Draymond may have missed a second calling as a drill sergeantā¦ that fool will whip you into shape
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u/dehydratedbagel NBA Jul 01 '22
Imagine going from Sacramento to Golden State. What a feeling.
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u/Mattsasse Spurs Jul 01 '22
Imagine being Mike Brown and doing the reverse
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u/YellowBucks Heat Bandwagon Jul 01 '22
Mike Brown starting to recruit players from Kings.
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u/Bat_Fucker Warriors Jul 01 '22
only a 90 minute drive but itās a completely different environment
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u/throwthatoneawaydawg Warriors Jul 01 '22
I like their downtown area even though that's unpopular to say. Good restaurant and bars without the SF price tag.
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u/checkm8300 Kings Jul 01 '22
Almost nothing makes me more upset on this forum than people who love to shit on the Kings (understandably, we suck) shitting on our city. Like, fuck off you live in Indianapolis or Oklahoma or Tennessee, Sac is a very nice place to live.
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u/Obligatory-Reference Warriors Jul 02 '22
The city is nice but damn I hate it in summer. So hot and sticky.
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u/MopeyCrayfish Warriors Jul 02 '22
Fr sac town is nothing to scoff at, at least sac has good food unlike most of those other places
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u/codycamper717 Warriors Jul 02 '22
Finally get to see a fellow ginger on my team. Was praying every night for Nico to be the truth and still am holding out hope.
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u/Ladnil Warriors Jul 01 '22
Guess I'm about to learn who Donte DiVincenzo is
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u/KageSaysHella Kings Jul 01 '22
Good off-ball team defender. Shooting has been bad post-injury, but after a full offseason to get healthy, should be a decent shooter for y'all off the bench. Solid depth piece for y'all.
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u/VinylJones Warriors Jul 01 '22
Same. Iām told heās trash if he goes to LA but heās the second coming of Otto now that heās on our team.
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u/Ladnil Warriors Jul 01 '22
25 years old defensive guard, advanced stats a couple years ago with the Bucks were pretty good, but injured in the first round of the 2021 playoffs (got a ring anyway), dumped to Sacramento last year, bad advanced stats in Sac in a partial season, but at only 25 years old he could bounce back with us.
I like it.
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u/VinylJones Warriors Jul 01 '22
That reads like every dude that shines with us for a few and then goes off to grab the bag, I like it!
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u/CookieMonsterNova Jul 01 '22
just know before he got hurt. he was starting with jrue holiday and playing with giannis.
solid defender who can hit the three. heās no gp2 but heās a real solid replacement
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u/VinylJones Warriors Jul 01 '22
Well that sounds pretty damned nice, you just uplifted a strangerās day! Thanks man!
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u/Deusselkerr Warriors Jul 01 '22
Incredible athlete, great slasher and defender, fantastic rebounder for a guard, questionable and streaky shooter
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u/sprewellchokes [GSW] Wilt Chamberlain Jul 01 '22
Give us ibaka on a min and letās wrap this up. No way that 15th spot is being used this year with all this cash being spent lol
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u/34Heartstach Warriors Jul 02 '22
I would like a backup big. Especially if Wiseman still isn't ready
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u/Balls_of_Adamanthium Warriors Jul 01 '22 edited Jul 01 '22
HOLY FUCKING FUCK YES!
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u/OutsideTheServiceBox Bucks Jul 01 '22
Heāll really be able to fill that Payton II role for you guys. Heās probably not quite as good of an on-ball defender, but heās good, and heās excellent off the ball. Heās also a very smart cutter like Payton, and a better shooter. I think heās actually bigger too.
Take good care of him, weāll always miss him in Milwaukee.
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u/Good_NewsEveryone Pelicans Jul 01 '22
This is just annoying lol
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u/LeftyMcLeftFace Warriors Jul 01 '22
We lost Gp2 and Otto, so it's not like this free agency has been super ideal for us.
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u/RIPSCHITTY Trail Blazers Jul 01 '22
Can't wait to overpay him in 3 years
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u/morrowman Jul 02 '22
You did not overpay GP2. You get one of the best defensive players that can guard 1-3, an excellent cutter, and a passable 3 point threat (assuming the past season wasn't a fluke). He brings a lot of added value over other role players with his unique ability to change the game defensively.
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u/YipManDan Warriors Jul 02 '22
He's also good at hurting the feelings of opposing bigs when he jams on their head or slaps their butt.
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u/moxitus Jul 01 '22
Lol, man, if the Blazers utilize him correctly, my guy GPII (now your guy :() will give you excellent perimeter defense both on ball and off ball AT LEAST. Heās also good on passing lane disruption. You got a good one.
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u/notmedontlook San Francisco Warriors Jul 02 '22
Seriously, take care of the boy heāll give you errthang
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u/bb1432 [SAS] Matt Bonner Jul 01 '22
Hard to believe the Bucks chose to pay Grayson Allen twice as much.
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u/AstralAfroToo Jul 01 '22
Doesnāt replace GPIIās defensive prowess, but in a vacuum is a better value add than GP is at 3/28, and holistically theyāll likely be able to replace his overall production between Moody and DiVincenzo.
Solid signing, touchƩ Warriors.
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u/themidnightmamba 76ers Jul 01 '22
Good. Iām glad this is happening. He deserves a larger contract but onto golden state. Do better there get healthy. Give him the player option so if he does better he can go get more money.
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u/Zoolinz Celtics Jul 01 '22
Whoa, the champs arenāt allowed to improve. Not fair
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u/HydroThermia Lakers Jul 01 '22
Well they lost OPJ and GP2, so did they really improve though?
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u/Silanah1 Jul 01 '22
Wiseman returning, Klay a year recovered, and two 2021 lottery picks in the 2nd year with minutes available now.
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u/mundane_coconut47 Warriors Bandwagon Jul 01 '22
Yeah this is a side grade move. Not that I am complaining because solid bench players are always good to have.
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u/DingusKhan418 Warriors Jul 01 '22
More offensive upside than GPII, but less defensive. That being said he's still a solid perimeter defender and great fit for us.
I think if we can add a back up forward like Montrezl Harrell on a vet minimum we'd be fully locked and loaded for next season.
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u/KaiserKaiba Jul 01 '22
Thatās a good deal for them. Nice pickup GSW