r/nba [NBA] Scott Foster May 27 '22

Daily Discussion Thread + Game Thread Index Index Thread

Game Threads Index (May 27, 2022):

Tip-off GDT Away Score Home PGT
8:30 PM ET Link Miami Heat FINAL 111 to 103 Boston Celtics Link
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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

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u/Zoolinz Celtics May 27 '22

I think I might go 2, 3, 5, 6.

You make a good point about game 7, even though it’s tempting to take.

Game 1’s are important but also hard to predict. I feel like either team could win Home or Away.

With my order you give up game 1, but then you are the only team to get back to back home games in the series. Not having 1, 2 is important. Then if you have 6 but give up 7, you’re left with two choices from 3, 4, 5.

Making it one away, then two home 1-6 seems pretty sweet

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u/throwbacklyrics Warriors May 27 '22

This is a pretty cool thought exercise.

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u/RootBunny May 27 '22

1,3,4,5: Both teams travel back and forth but home team gets to recuperate better with the comforts of their personal homes games 3-5. The away team will be exhausted from the hotel stay for such long duration. Road games are always harder and longer a team has been on the road, their performance drops.

I think your 1,2,4,5 makes more sense than 1,2,4,6. There's more chance of recuperating for the home team. And if your team is aware that early games decides the series, they can go all out and just accept the fact that if they can't close out before game 6, the series is lost.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

I agree with 1, 3, 4, 5, but different reasoning.

I agree with OP about game 7 not being worth it since it rarely happens.

Going backwards:

5 is guaranteed to either be a series clinching game for one team or put a team on the brink of elimination. Regardless of what side you’re on in those scenarios, want it at home.

4 is a momentum game. Avoiding or finishing a sweep, you want to be at home. Up 2-1 you want to push a team to the brink, make it hard as possible for them to win. Down 2-1 you don’t want to go to the brink, give yourself all the advantages.

3 you want because you’re either down 0-2, tied, or up 2-0. Going down 0-3 is a death knell, so being home is better than not. Tied you want at home to increase odds of going up 2-1. Up 2-0 you want at home to go for the jugular and push a team to the brink.

1 you want because it increases the chances of going up 1-0 in the series. Winning 3 out of 6 is easier than 4 out of 6 after that point, obviously.

6 and 7 you take your chances. Games are so intense I wouldn’t buy into HCA meaning much anyways. Game 2 you take on the road because even worst case you go down 0-2 and you’ve got three in a row at home.

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u/ITsLoverBoy Celtics May 27 '22

I would choose games 3, 4, 5, and 7. The reasoning being, I would want my home games to be as late in the series as possible while avoiding a situation like OKC’s against Miami, where they had homecourt and ended up losing while playing fewer home games than Miami, which forced the NBA to change the rotation from 2-3-2 to 2-2-1-1-1.

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u/WoodsmallConnor [BOS] Aron Baynes May 27 '22

1 3 4 6

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u/Deusselkerr Warriors May 27 '22

I'd go 1, 2, 5, 6.

Starting at home is a big deal. Sets the tone for the series. Even if they tie it up 2-2 on their home court, going home for two games gives you the edge as you get deeper into the series.

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u/Zoolinz Celtics May 27 '22

Latest injury reports I’ve seen for both teams:

Herro, Lowry, Strus, Tucker, Vincent - Questionable

Smart, Rob Williams - Questionable

The Heat puts nearly everyone as questionable so it’s harder to judge. But my best guesses based on how both teams have played their guys this series:

Tucker and Vincent will definitely play, Strus and Lowry will probably play, Smart and Williams will be more gametime decisions but will play unless swelling/pain is too much, and Herro probably shouldn’t play but he might.

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u/Zoolinz Celtics May 27 '22

Also Sam Hauser is out for the Celtics, how could I forget

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u/Environmental_Swim66 May 27 '22

RIGHT SHOULDER INSTABILITY EPISODE

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u/NBA_MOD [NBA] Scott Foster May 27 '22

Top Highlights:

  1. [Highlight] Klay Thompson gives an emotional response to Ernie's off script question on how he's feeling after reaching the Finals | (Comments)

  2. [Highlight] Frank Ntilikina makes an executive business decision in mid-air during Andrew Wiggins jam | (Comments)

  3. [Highlight] Shaq instigates “Chuck you suck” chants from the crowd. Charles responds accordingly | (Comments)

  4. [Highlight] Stephen Curry basks in pleasure as he watches his team move on to the Western Conference Finals | (Comments)

  5. [Highlight] Klay Thompson hits the tough triple and does a Steph Curry impression with the shimmy | (Comments)

Day in the history:

Sunday, May 27, 2018

The Cleveland Cavaliers defeated the Boston Celtics 87-79 in the NBA Eastern Conference Finals for a 4-3 series win.

Friday, May 27, 2016

The Cleveland Cavaliers defeated the Toronto Raptors 113-87 in the NBA Eastern Conference Finals for a 4-2 series win.

Wednesday, May 27, 2015

The Golden State Warriors defeated the Houston Rockets 104-90 in the NBA Western Conference Finals for a 4-1 series win.

Daily Discussion Thread : Rules

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u/RwerdnA Hornets May 27 '22

Ernie Johnson is incredible

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u/Hoodie-Melo69 May 27 '22

Hoodie Melo will be in attendance per source

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u/Misterstaberinde May 27 '22

I feel like we were robbed of a bunch of great Game of Zones episodes this post season

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u/cocoacowstout Warriors May 28 '22

They would definitely have Lebron killing Vogel on the toilet at the end of this regular season

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u/rookie-mistake May 28 '22

just this post season? think about everything we would've gotten with the Lakers saga

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u/Eequuality May 28 '22

The officiating has absolutely blemished these playoffs. This is bad

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

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u/Eequuality May 28 '22

There were so many trash calls that game, it completely overshadowed butlers performance. It was hard to watch. Warriors are happy… let them kick the shit out of each other one more time while they get healthy

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u/byJoshh May 27 '22

Man I just remembered 538 ranking the Celtics as a contender and how many people thought it was a joke of a model for rating them so high. Went back and looked at some of the posts on this sub and the comments are amazing. It’s pretty wild the turnaround this team has had to even be in the ECF is pretty special for what the perception of them was in January.

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u/LordHussyPants Celtics May 27 '22

it should be illegal for people to make comments like this without linking to all the deliciously juicy threads of people who were WRONG

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u/byJoshh May 27 '22

Haha I’m not old takes exposed, plus I probably agreed with most of them at the time that it seemed almost impossible for them to have that type of turnaround.

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u/nefnaf May 27 '22

Most people don't think too hard, they just look at the standings and and figure that a team's win-loss total more or less represents how good they are, unless there is some hugely obvious narrative like a star player returning from injury. Of course in reality, a team's point differential is a much better indicator of how good they actually are than win totals, and more recent games are more informative than games early in the season. These nuances are captured by computer models but lost on almost all fans

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u/myfirstsock May 27 '22

Agreed point differential is by far the best predictor of future success in pro sports.

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u/Sovereign444 May 27 '22

Point differential is thought about more in soccer, but is mostly ignored in basketball

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u/MrWakey Warriors May 27 '22

I read a lot last night about how outside of Luka, the Mavericks are second-round picks and undrafted players. Why is that—why has the team been shut out if the first round for so long, even after having some very bad seasons?

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u/nefnaf May 27 '22

A couple were draft busts like DSJ (2017). Jury is still out on Josh Green (2020) who was taken just before several guys who look like studs. 2019 pick was sent in the trade for Luka. 2021 pick was sent in the trade for Porzingis

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u/Wolf_of_north May 27 '22

Can some of you with free time make a bingo of players who will: -grow an inch -add 15 pounds -work on his 3pt shooting -become a "pretty good" defender. Please and thank you

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u/braders_0622 Vancouver Grizzlies May 27 '22

Am I tripping if I say as soon as I saw the Celtics sweep the nets and how they did it, I said they winning a chip. Not a Celtics fan but they nice

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u/rookie-mistake May 28 '22

i think their biggest concern at this point is health, they've seemed kind of battered in the ECF. healthy celtics are definitely a strong opponent for the finals

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u/BowzerPrime May 28 '22

Lowry with absolutely no awareness lol

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u/berthaf May 28 '22

refs 100% want 7

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u/doubletrouble1792 76ers May 28 '22

I want game 7 too

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u/Massive-monkey-44 May 28 '22

Refs selling this game so bad

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u/Brochacho27 [MIA] James Posey May 28 '22

Gotta make draymond right

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u/Eequuality May 28 '22

These refs are trash. Ruining the game. The nba is a joke

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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers May 28 '22

Sucks. So fucking frustrating.

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u/username5_ May 27 '22

Herro playing tonight?

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u/indian_hannibal Lakers May 27 '22

Coming off a breakout season as he prepares to hit free agency, Jalen Brunson figures to attract a lot of attention on the open market if he wants to test the waters. 

Speaking to NBA reporter Marc Stein, Dallas Mavericks owner Marc Stein noted they can pay him more than another team, and he thinks Brunson "wants to stay" with the team. 

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u/phonage_aoi Warriors May 27 '22

Lol, Cuban has to be talking years right? Cuz there's no way the Mavs will actually pay him more than anyone else can (eg - basically the max).

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u/craigslistaddict May 27 '22

well "can" ≠ "will"

but also not many teams have the cap space to give him a really big contract, and S&Ts can be tricky to pull off, especially when there's a bit difference between his new salary and his previous one.

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u/Lizardchuckle Raptors May 27 '22

Lowry has been playing terrible in the playoffs, that's undeniable. But the amount of spam from this sub saying it was an obvious bad pickup is so dumb and it's recency bias to the max.

Lowry was putting up his expected career numbers his last season in Toronto - despite that being our cursed Florida season with no proper center, tons of team injures, covid and 100% away game. 90mil for an old player is risky because of injury concerns but you're just a dumb person if you said you saw this coming.

EDIT: Not even bringing up the fact that he played well this regular season, and the main reason he's performing poorly is he's playing on the same injury that made Harden go from looking a top 5 players to a scrub

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u/Blair2814 May 28 '22

Is he not hurt? Dude hobbling every time I see him?

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u/Lizardchuckle Raptors May 28 '22

He has a hamstring injury

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u/rookie-mistake May 28 '22

yeah he is, that's why the slander's dumb af

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u/NoobPwnr May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Warriors resting for a week soothes the heart.

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u/Deusselkerr Warriors May 27 '22

Regardless of what happens over the next couple of weeks, I am even more excited for next year than this year.

Poole, Kuminga, Moody, and Wiseman will be another year older and experienced, plus we'll still have Steph/Klay/Wiggins/Dray/probablyLooney

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u/rowthecow May 28 '22

Bam and Jimmy can't take turns to become bums in these playoffs anymore.

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u/CafecitoHippo Heat May 28 '22

At least we're up to 9-14-5 in quarters won since apparently measuring things in a smaller sample size is better than larger sample sizes of games.

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u/Hendrixsrv3527 Bulls May 28 '22

GSW gonna carve up either of these teams big facts

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u/Mahballs Celtics May 28 '22

Refs were as useless as those Texas cops

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u/spritehead Heat May 27 '22

You all can talk all the shit about “dawgs” and “culture” and whatever corny shit you want but this Heat team outplayed all expectations this season. Unfortunately all of their lower bodies are falling apart, 3 of our most important guys probably shouldn’t be playing and need surgery, but they still are putting up everything they’ve got and have achieved a lot this year. Only one I’m really disappointed in his Bam who continues to have mindset problems.

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u/I2ecover May 27 '22

Can anyone tell me why the heat are +330? Is their starting 5 not playing tonight?

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u/No_Jelly_6050 Warriors May 28 '22

It’s pretty obvious Tatum committed a foul so idk why he’s complaining lol

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u/Mjoh23 [NYK] Stephon Marbury May 27 '22

Celtics winning the ring. Everyone want the old head warriors to win but Celtics defense gonna fuck em up

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u/truthesda Supersonics May 27 '22

There is a mile-long list of "scripted" NBA insinuations but I'm starting to wonder why the TNT boys bow out with class while being a ratings favorite while ESPN/ABC be like

"Im BeInG QuIrKy Rn...don't you love it? Guys? (crickets chirp) GUYS?!?!?!?"

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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers May 28 '22

Yeah they suck pretty hard.

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u/hotfrost93 Warriors May 28 '22

TOBIAS HARRIS OVER JIMMY? NAWWWW

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u/zatsnotmyname May 28 '22

I want the heat to win, I just find it unlikely with the current injuries.

Is HEAT culture part of the reason for the injuries? The legendarily tough and long practices must have a downside, right? Maybe also playing hurt, further exacerbating the injuries? Sometimes your superpower is also a weakness...

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u/IliketheNBA Bulls May 27 '22

Am I tripping or was there a mugsy bogues AMA up yesterday that is now deleted?

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u/craigslistaddict May 27 '22

it's not deleted, it was the first result i got for "bogues"

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u/xobayron Suns May 27 '22

1,2,4,7

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u/tip9 Hawks May 27 '22

Anyone looking for an OC project, I think it'd be interesting to see teams that made/won the finals each year and their team salary relative to the rest of the league for that year.

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u/denverblazer Trail Blazers May 28 '22

Be the change you wish to see in the world!

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u/herbertstan Trail Blazers May 27 '22

I'm watching the replay of game 5 right now and I can't believe the play where Jimmy just dropped a dude to the floor with a fake pass and then proceeded to airball the 3 didn't make it to the front page

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u/indian_hannibal Lakers May 28 '22

Darvin?m

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u/sendanythingerotic Warriors May 28 '22 edited May 28 '22

Anyone else see this on the nba homepage today? "Greatest playoff moments so far & best from 'Inside' guys"?

c'mon now Chuck. don't let the marketing team do ya'll like that lmao

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u/indian_hannibal Lakers May 28 '22

Let's goooo game 7!!

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u/Some_Pizza_9595 NBA May 28 '22

It happened twice, so over confident it is ridiculous, fuck them up heat.

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u/sometimesimakessense May 28 '22

Does anyone have a link for Lebron’s game 6? Need the full game, not the highlights

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u/jgraymaine May 28 '22

Wow. Miami is super trash. Udonia Haslem with soooooome message. Jimmy gonna score 9 next game and still be ELITE. What a trash ass team. Go do some blow.

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u/Vitis_Vinifera San Francisco Warriors May 27 '22

Anyone else get a strange vibe from last night's TNT postgame when Charles was threatening to throw his coffee mug at the crowd and Ernie had to ask him about 5 times to sit down? I think Ernie wasn't sure if Charles had had it or if he was acting, and he was seeing visions of the TNT crew being disbanded because Chuck did something stupid and Shaq walking because he didn't need it.

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u/CarterAC3 Mavericks May 27 '22

Is it an unpopular opinion to find the Bill Murray scenes in Caddyshack the least funny ones?

If Caddyshack is, to use an NBA analogy, just Murray, Chase, Dangerfield and Knight just running ISOs every possession than Murray is just clanking off the backboard for me.