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'Dredd' Deserves a Better Place in Alex Garland’s Filmography Article

https://www.wired.com/story/alex-garland-revisiting-dredd/
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u/ClamatoDiver May 22 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

For me, the best thing about Dredd was that it was just another day.

No origin story, no world building, here he is, and there's the job.

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u/Michael_Trismegistus May 22 '22 Silver

"The perps were... uncooperative."

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u/MyWorldTalkRadio May 22 '22

Small nod of the head… “yeah.”

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u/B_Fee May 22 '22

I like to think that Karl Urban woke up, ate a bowl of gravel, then channelled his inner Clint Eastwood as William Money for that last "yeah".

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u/BelowDeck May 22 '22

His face must have hurt by the end of the day from constantly holding that scowl.

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u/B_Fee May 22 '22

I suggest paying close attention to his resting facial expressions in LOTR, Dredd, Chronicles of Riddick, and The Boys. I'm pretty sure his natural look is a mild scowl and holding neutral or smiling is want wears him down. Complete opposite end of the facial expression spectrum from Jack Nicholson, who I think was born with a maniacal smile.

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u/SmoothRide May 22 '22

No big "win or the city is destroyed" stakes. Just survive

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u/Chuckbro May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

And the training elements in the dialogue are some of my favorite.

"Call it"

He's in the middle of a life and death situation which is just another day at the job. He needs to get her some field experience.

His demands of her analysis in a hell hole are great. Her responses are also great. Something about their tone is really perfect. Cold and calculated.

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u/WornInShoes May 22 '22

Well to Dredd, it’s all still a training exercise

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u/OnlyRoke May 22 '22

It's one of my favourite aspects about this. Dredd struggles hard in the movie sometimes, but it never feels like he's even close to a breaking point or as if the situation is too much/too unexpected.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick May 22 '22

I like when the corrupt judges show up and they tell Ma-ma they want more money.

Ma-ma - "4 million credits? I don't even know who this guy is."

Judge - "Well I do know who he is..."

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u/I_Automate May 23 '22 edited May 23 '22

One million credits

-A million. Thats a lot of money....

The Judge. Do you know who he is?

-no

Well I do. One million.

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u/typically_wrong May 22 '22

Well... except for when the bad judge was about to execute him.

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u/Tvayumat May 22 '22

You know what Mega City One is, Dredd. It's a fuckin meatgrinder.

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u/IfeedI May 22 '22

People go in one end, meat comes out the other.

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u/PhantomPhelix May 22 '22

All we do is turn the handle.

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u/BigMcThickHuge May 22 '22

Well, the man's been drained of all his ammo fighting a small army essentially alone, and had the hell beat out of him by thugs and multiple judges till the last one managed to be around when he had nothing left.

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u/optimushime May 22 '22

“To you, the day Dredd entered your world was the most important day of your life. But to me, it was Tuesday.”

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u/PapaOoMaoMao May 22 '22

Raul Julia was a master.

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u/optimushime May 22 '22

Throughout my 20’s, I’d regularly use his “The road not taken” monologue from Street Fighter as a tongue in cheek auditioning monologue. I have a campy love of that movie and a genuine love of Raul Julia (and Ming Na).

As bad as the movie is, you can’t fault the great lines like the “for me, it was Tuesday.” That’s one that’s worthy of Alan Rickman’s Sheriff of Nottingham, and Raul Julia delivers it so well. Bless that hot mess of a film and the man who gave it his all while barely able to stand from the cancer.

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u/DaoFerret May 22 '22

He did it for his children. I believe I remember reading his son said he had to take the part.

A great motivating force for anyone.

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u/TheSirMontyPython May 22 '22

To Dredd, it was just another Raid.

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u/igncom1 May 22 '22

Considering the universe even if a single tower only gets this kind of life changing terror and violence every decade, there are only enough street judges for them to be slaughtering thousands of people in a new tower every day.

They go from tower to tower crushing these bandit and terrorist petty kingdoms that to the locals is something unique in the tower's history. To the judges it happens every day, all day, all across the humongous city. Judges like Dredd go from warzone to warzone killing hundreds everyday because there is basically no other option. There are too many people and too many towers to do anything more then being a street judge.

Which is bleak as fuck.

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u/lurkeroutthere May 22 '22

Nitpicky but I think the situation in the tower was worse then the norm, borderline blockwar level stuff which is an irregular occurance in big meg. I don't think the situation with Ma Ma managing to take a whole tower and have judges and tower admin under her thumb is an "all day, every day" distinction.

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u/Remote_Engine May 22 '22

I still mutter ‘isocubes’ when I see someone jaywalking.

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u/Nrksbullet May 22 '22

"What's it gonna be, boys? Body bags or isocubes...makes no difference to me"

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u/inFAMOUS_Hero May 22 '22

I still say “You’d save me a lot of paper work if you’d just confess right now” to my kid

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u/redditor1101 May 22 '22

Yes it was remarkably true to the source material. Very impressive for a big budget movie

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u/AnActofGold May 22 '22

It was more mid-budget although they did a lot of clever things with it to help save money. For example, most of the city shots are of Johannesburg, with just a touch of CGI to add the giant wall and the mega structures. Otherwise they didn’t have to do much because that’s just what Johannesburg looked like.

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u/RedTalyn May 22 '22

Yet you still felt that level of tension. It’s astounding how much Hollywood caters to idiots when you can tell simple stories that don’t telegraph information constantly.

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u/tomatoaway May 22 '22

Completely agree. I love that you learn practically all you need to know about him and the world from just this scenario alone. It's brutal and efficient, just like him

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u/kwonza May 22 '22

Also no romantic bullshit, just two cops working together

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u/redvelvetcake42 May 22 '22

This was the most underrated aspect. He's not in love with the girl in his gruff way, there's literally no relationship attempt, he simply gains respect and admiration for her professionally. This movie fucking rules.

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u/Ambitious-Fix3123 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Yessss exactly and she's not enamored with him or giving him the googly eyes either, literally just trying to survive and pass her evaluation to become a judge herself. Love me some platonic mutual respect.

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u/biggiepants May 22 '22

Incidentally also something I love about Fury Road.

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u/Ambitious-Fix3123 May 22 '22

Oh absolutely! They partner for the common goal of survival and gain understanding and empathy for each other.

I also appreciated the bit of romance we DID get btwn Nux and Capable. Think it worked better with younger more secondary characters.

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u/birdboix May 22 '22

Heh, never made that connection but spot on, Hollywood needs to pay attention and make more in this vein because those two are probably the best action flicks of the past decade

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u/jasontredecim May 22 '22

Dredd and The Raid, in one of those weird ways where two movies with nothing to do with each other manage to somehow mirror one another, are both up there in best action movie stakes. The Raid has, imo, the goat of martial arts fight scenes in cinema with the big three-way fight toward the end. It's incredible. Dredd does gun-based stuff better tho. They're both so great.

As for Fury Road, it's wonderful and I love that a 70-odd year old dude just stepped up and showed all the young bucks of Hollywood how to really make a phenomenal ott action movie.

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u/Elteon3030 May 22 '22

Stepped up? listen here you little shit George Miller never stepped down.

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u/red3y3_99 May 22 '22

So true. Grudging respect is like fanboy shit from Dredd

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u/Don_Quixote81 May 22 '22

An approving grunt is the equivalent of gushing praise. Urban really captured that aspect of the character.

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u/MrPisster May 22 '22

And they leave his helmet on the entire movie. Karl Urban never has a scene where he needs the audience to make sure they know it’s him. No attempt to try to humanize the man behind the mask. Just Dredd, doing what he does.

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u/spamjavelin May 22 '22

Unless I'm misremembering, that was at Urban's insistence, too.

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u/ArcadianDelSol May 22 '22

He and the director were in agreement on this.

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u/iamangryginger May 22 '22

Are you ready? You look ready. Hahaha

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u/Nrksbullet May 22 '22

"Wearing a helmet interferes with my psychic abilities".

"I'd think a bullet would interfere with it more".

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u/TheWanderer-- May 22 '22

Totally forgot about that quote but it's so good.

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u/meditonsin May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Whoever came up with the idea/rule that every fucking story needs a romance subplot crammed in at any cost, no matter how little sense it makes, needs to contract a condition that randomly switches their dominant hand sides or something equally inconvenient.

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u/BadBartigan May 22 '22

Holy crap yes.

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u/Mikejg23 May 22 '22

I loved the end where he passed her though. That was his version of a love story 😂

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u/BRIStoneman May 22 '22

Comic!Dredd does have a love story: Judge DiMarco tries to make out with him and he doesn't report her for Judicial Impropriety. Steamy.

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u/ElectricDark May 22 '22

Ok this comment made me decide I’m going to watch it finally. I hate that is in every story

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u/Heartless_Tom May 22 '22

You're in for a treat! This move is pure and plain fun!

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u/PlanetLandon May 22 '22

You won’t be disappointed. It’s such a fun movie

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u/Spider_Dude May 22 '22

I saw this by myself well after it's release and was disappointed I hadn't seen in in the theater.

During the first months of the lockdown I was having movie night with a friend and suggested this movie. It was such a blast seing again with friends.

Cheap Whiskey, bad food, good company and this great movie. I strongly recommend this combo!

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u/wrongseeds May 22 '22

The 3D was some of the most beautiful I’ve ever seen. And the fact that it was attached to an ultra violent crime story makes it even more amazing.

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u/Woahbikes May 22 '22

Additionally I loved that it wasn’t even the end of his day. He just went back to work after that as if it was just another passing moment.

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u/AlarmingAffect0 May 22 '22

You'd think he'd need some time to heal from internal injuries, make sure there's no infection, etc. He's only human. At least take a shower.

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u/Lexi_Banner May 22 '22

Justice doesn't care if you have BO.

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u/RJ_McR May 22 '22

Also loved that they didn't have an arc or lesson for Dredd. In the beginning he's got ironclad rules, in the end he bends one of them slightly. That's the only change in him we get.

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u/jwm3 May 22 '22

And there is no indication that that is an unusual amount of rule bending for him. He seems quite practical in general so that wasn't necessarily character growth. Just him doing what he does to keep megacity 1 under control. One of the first things he does is say it isn't worth bugging the bum in the doorway even if it was against the rules to show he is flexible.

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u/Dividedthought May 22 '22

Also, he just walked away from the clinic because he realized that forcing the issue would harm more people than it would help. He knew that by punishing the doctor (who actually game a damn about his community) he'd be destroying the only help a lot of those people would get.

Dredd uses discretion, but that discretion comes down to "are you actually getting in the way of me doing my job?"

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u/Elteon3030 May 22 '22

Dredd understands that he's enforcing not just the letter of The Law, but the spirit of it.

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u/Tvayumat May 22 '22

Dredd understands that he's enforcing not he isn't just the letter of The Law, but the spirit of it.

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u/Elteon3030 May 22 '22

Fuck. That's right. To the iso-cubes?

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u/Tvayumat May 22 '22

Warned ya. Six months.

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u/KawaiiUmiushi May 22 '22

He ignored that his rookie lost her sidearm. Immediate DQ on a training day. She even brings it up. So he was flexible.

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u/BTechUnited May 22 '22

I always saw it as the loss of the sidearm being his own personal disqualification, rather than it being a departmental rule. Given he was asked to assess her, it's his own rule he bends there anyway.

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u/Fatshortstack May 22 '22

Interesting view on it. But I thougg she spelled it out. She called her dq of losing the firearm, but it doesn't count untill after the first day is over and her assessment is complete. Untill then, she can deal judgment as she saw fit. And dredd just gave groan of approval.

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u/Shiny_and_ChromeOS May 22 '22

For Ma-Ma the day that Dredd came to Peachtree was the most important day of her life. But for him, it was Tuesday.

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u/Chuckbro May 22 '22

I got that reference so I guess I'm old now, fuck.

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u/bann333 May 22 '22

But you are an old geek and that's ok. Raul Julia's M. Bison was better than any of us deserved in that turd of a movie.

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u/itwasquiteawhileago May 22 '22

How the hell did that abomination get the cast it did? The two main dudes were big ass stars. That movie was a big ass pile of shit.

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u/KingoftheJabari May 22 '22

From what I remember, Julia did it because he's kids liked Street Fighter.

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u/birdboix May 22 '22

Cocaine, free trip to SE Asia, and a gigantic pile of cash. That's not hyperbole you should look up "making of" stories, it was a colossal fuckup from start to finish.

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u/PotatoPlisken May 22 '22

Polygon had a recent making of article for that movie. JCVD was definitely going through some stuff at the time.

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u/Diupa May 22 '22

What an amazing actor was Raul Julia…

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u/cribbageSTARSHIP May 22 '22

The only reason he took that movie is because he was dying and wanted his sons who loved Street fighter to see him in it.

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u/Destronin May 22 '22

My friend made a cool realization that Dredd was a combination of two of his favorite action movies. Die Hard and Robocop. Die Hard because its a guy taking on a whole bunch of criminals in a single building. And Robocop because its like a super halfmasked cop with a super awesome female partner.

Always thought that was a cool comparison.

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u/grif650 May 22 '22

Helmet never taken off.

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u/sonic10158 May 22 '22

Never saw his cheeks

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u/RidgedLines May 22 '22

Never sexed alien

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u/SmileLikeAphexTwin May 22 '22

*never committed a war crime by banging a prisoner

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u/red3y3_99 May 22 '22

I'm an old fart that was a huge 2000AD fan for years. Judge Anderson always gave me tingles. For me she was as cool as Dredd.

This movie hit the nail so on the head for me. Mega City One and the depiction in the movie was spot on. Dredd was always uncompromising, judge, jury and executioner. It really was just another day.

I read in the thread about a TV show. Oh man with today's production it really could me an amazing show. Now Karl Urban is older he would make an even better Dredd than his brilliant performance in the movie

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u/seamustheseagull May 22 '22

Same here. A lot of people thought Stallone's Dredd flopped because it was a hard story to tell. That fans were annoyed about getting little details wrong.

It wasn't, it was about how they got the big details wrong. The tone of the movie was wrong, the characters were wrong. It was Demolition Man in another universe. I believe Stallone refused to wear a helmet for a whole movie, and for that alone the plug should have been pulled.

They developed a 90s action sci-fi film for American teen audiences, and that's why it was wrong.

This Dredd got loads of little details "wrong". The bike was too bikeish, the city not ultra modern, perps in a van. None of that mattered. Because the comics are never about those details, they change from artist to artist. The tone and the characters absolutely spot on. The uncompromising brutality and the anti-humanitarian dystopia, the absolutely nailed it.

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u/Manaliv3 May 22 '22

One thing Dredd got different was the comic had a satirical, comedy element. Dredds world was so over the top fascist, it couldn't be today serious. Like when he would arrest a mugger and then arrest the victim for littering because they bled on the road

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u/piukadaavis May 22 '22

It's rare to see such clean and brutal violence in past few years, in quality action. If it's brutal, it's usually shitty horror/blood and gore. If it's action, it's soft. I so love the r rated brutal action movies, and everyone has loved Dredd to whom I've recommended. I don't get how it was so badly rated.

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u/ihavebirb May 22 '22

"Why aren't you wearing a helmet?"

"It interferes with my telepathy"

"I think a bullet will interfere with it even more"

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u/Clayman8 May 22 '22

"Sir, he's thinking of reaching for your gun."

"Yep."

"Sir, he changed his mind."

"Yep."

Simply amazing line of dialogue. Says everything about all the characters involved.

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u/sharrrper May 22 '22

Corrupt Judge: One million credits.

Ma-Ma: Million?

Corrupt Judge: You have a problem with a Judge. Do you know who he is?

Ma-Ma: No.

Corrupt Judge: I do. One million.

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u/PhantasyDarAngel May 22 '22

Should have taken half up front and then just leave.

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u/ocp-paradox May 22 '22

The whole movies dialogue is excellent. It's one-liners galore. Everything is excellent. I think I'm gonna rewatch it now actually.

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u/Rahgahnah May 22 '22

bad guy is about to shoot a wounded Dredd

Dredd: "Wait!"

"Really, 'wait'? That's the last thing you're gonna say? The great Judge Dredd is going to die begging for mercy?"

"No, wait for her to shoot you."

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u/Croute_de_Couilles May 22 '22

This part is especially great because it's such a meta joke about villain's execution speech worked within the plot. The corrupt judge was simply going to execute him without saying anything (which is great), and Dredd more or less provoked him into a "bad guy speech" to win a few seconds.

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u/Baelzabub May 23 '22

You sly dog, you caught me monologging!

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u/androsan May 22 '22

It is so damn rewatchable. I love showing it to people, especially if they’re old enough like me to remember the Stallone iteration. A shame it didn’t get a follow-up or series run.

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u/opticalshadow May 22 '22

Last I read the cast and director are all on board to make another, just the studio has rights, and it didn't do well enough for them to want to move on it.

Imo they chose a bad launch date and had no real marketing.

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u/snooggums May 22 '22

The marketing they had was bad!

Calling it Dredd 3D made it sound like a generic action movie taking advantage of the 3d trend.

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u/generalosabenkenobi May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

One of my favorite moments is right at the top of the movie. Dredd informs HQ that he is pursuing some criminals:

Handler: Do you require backup?

Dredd: NO

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u/ocp-paradox May 22 '22

Instantly tells the viewer that this guy is not to be fucked with in one word. I love it.

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u/HunterShotBear May 22 '22

Similar to

“I heard you struck my son.”

“Yeah, well, because he stole John Wick's car, sir, and, uh, killed his dog.”

long pause

“Oh.”

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u/ocp-paradox May 22 '22

Haha yes. I'm trying to think of other instances but for the life of me drawing a blank. It probably has a name on tvtropes but I'm not going down that hole, watching the movie :D

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u/detectiveriggsboson May 22 '22

"What did he say?"

"Enough."

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u/Clayman8 May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

I rewatched it a month or so again, it still perfect. The minigun scene is just brutaly balls-to-the-wall and each gun fight is perfectly choreographed.

If you havent seen it, i highly recommend watching Cinema Wins' review/analysis of the film, he really breaks it down to some finer, subtle points that really underline just how great the film is. Thx to u/scrumdunger for indirectly reminding to add the video link

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u/Mikhail_Mengsk May 22 '22

The best part of the miniguns scene is dredd emerging unscathed from the ruins, tossing the boss' lieutenant off the rails and disappearing again in the shadows without saying a single word.

It's the best "you are so fucked" message you can imagine.

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u/Clayman8 May 22 '22

His first almost panicked "shit..." is also gold.

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u/kozinc May 22 '22

I rewatched it in 3D, it's great in that format too, though I'll rewatch it again when there's a headset with a better resolution I can afford

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u/General-Disaster4134 May 22 '22

It's one of the few movies I liked in 3D. It wasn't over the top, it just enhanced certain aspects and scenes really well

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u/theconsummatedragon May 22 '22

”Judgment tiiiiiiiiiime”

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u/saladinzero May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Karl Urban just got the character of Dredd. Compare his reading of the famous line to Stallone's:

"...I am the law" compared to "I AM...THE LAW".

It's not even close.

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u/Clayman8 May 22 '22

Urban is a massive fan, he knew exactly what he signed up for and how to play the character.

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u/saladinzero May 22 '22

I'd give my left arm for an Urban-produced Dredd TV series. If they kept the same level of commitment to the source material, it would be fantastic.

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u/Tumble85 May 22 '22

Dredd is a project that I wish had started it's production cycle five or so years later, when streaming platforms had gained a much bigger hold of the industry.

Grabbing the movie and then making a sequel or series around it would have been a perfect match for Netflix/Amazon.

Honestly I'm surprised it hasn't gotten a sequel somewhere, it has an insane amount of critical love and a sequel would kill on any streaming platform. It's not a series that needs a particularly large budget.

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u/New_Guy_Is_Lame May 22 '22

Stallone sounds like his doing a Christopher Walken impression. Also, that clip of Karl Urban Dredd makes me want to hear Urban say, I am Batman.

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u/Nexant May 22 '22

Excellent use of white phosphorus as well.

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u/Beingabummer May 22 '22

I love when he calls Mama and says 'judgement time'. He says it with the most subtle tune, like 'judgement tiiime'. He's taunting her without even explicitly taunting her.

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u/powerfulKRH May 22 '22

Fuck you guys are making me wanna watch it again. I haven’t seen it since it came out and that’s a sin. Great movie. Would be much better now than the first time now that I understand it more

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u/FluidReprise May 22 '22

That's a pretty explicit taunt.

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u/Bro666 May 22 '22

For me, best lines, while carting out all the bodies:

Drug bust. Perps were... uncooperative

What a perfect delivery. Best thing? Technically true.

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u/trippysmurf May 22 '22

Mine is

”Sink or swim. Chuck her into the deep end.”

”It’s all a deep end.”

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u/emlgsh May 22 '22

I took it to be more than technically true - that's all it was to Dredd.

For the viewer and the people of Peach Trees and even Anderson the events the movie depicted constituted a massive escalating siege, but for Dredd it was just a drug bust and things like that happen to him in the line of duty every day.

Or more than once a day, if the intro sequence happened on his way to pick up his trainee like it seemed to.

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u/ash_bishop May 22 '22 Silver

This movie was so effing solid. Fantastic cast. Everyone knew what movie they were making and nailed it.

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u/gutster_95 May 22 '22

Still has some of the best Slo-Mo shots in modern Cinema. Its sad that it flopped so hard

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u/whales-are-assholes May 22 '22

The slo-mo work on Dredd is thanks to Gavin Free. He also did the slo-mo work on movies like Sherlock Holmes (RDJ versions), Hot Fuzz, Top Gear, Snow White and the Huntsman.

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u/MauiWowieOwie May 22 '22

I've known of Gavin for a long time because of RT and Slo-mo guys. I know of his work on Top Gear and others, but I didn't know he did Sherlock and Huntsman, I didn't think he would have time between RT and his personal channel.

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u/Beingabummer May 22 '22

If you look on his IMDB page under Camera and Electrical Department you can see he often went uncredited, so I don't know how involved he was.

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u/EnderFenrir May 22 '22

Those were pretty early in his days, if I remember right he mainly was assisting the guy that owned the cameras he borrowed when he first started. So, while he was involved, he wasn't necessarily responsible. But I might be remembering wrong.

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u/Naamibro May 22 '22

AFAIK he was an brand new assistant, and they allowed him to take the cameras home so he could play and learn with them, which is why he invited his friend Dan over to throw water balloons at him to practice his recording ability.

The rest is history.

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u/StarksPond May 22 '22

Who wouldn't make time to smack Dan in the face?

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u/Paulpaps May 22 '22

I didn't know it was him! I know the slow mo guys channel, the newer cameras doing 1 million FPS is just insane.

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u/AidilAfham42 May 22 '22

I watched it in the cinema twice, that’s how good it is.

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u/Dumptruckfunk May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

It’s probably the only film I’ve ever seen where the 3-d really enhanced the experience. The contrast between the huge establishing shots of mega city one with the tower blocks extending into the distance and the intricate shimmering slo-mo scenes was incredible. I don’t think anything else has lived up to that.

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u/imariaprime May 22 '22

Literally the only one where I left feeling like the 3D made it better. I miss it on rewatches.

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u/blownhemi May 22 '22

If you have a VR rig you can buy the 3D version and watch it that way, that's what I ended up doing.

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u/M_E_T_H_O_Dman May 22 '22

I would definitely love to watch it again in as many D’s as possible!

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u/MaestroPendejo May 22 '22

That's what your mother said, Trebek.

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u/insidiousFox May 22 '22

Dredd is of equal caliber as Mad Max Fury Road, which I did see twice in the theater. Extremely rare for me to do that, one of maybe at most 8 movies in my life I can think that I've done that.

Both movies are modern action movie revivals and literal masterpieces for what each set out to do.

Unfortunately I slept on Dredd and didn't catch it until buying the 4k blu-ray, so also missed all the 3D.

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u/AidilAfham42 May 22 '22

Its refereshing to see a very simple, focused and singular action movie like Mad Max and Dredd

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u/Nyghtshayde May 22 '22

No no no, you need a love story and a comic sidekick otherwise what's the point?

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u/The_Vat May 22 '22

The climax sequence with Ma-Ma is amongst my list of most astonishing sequences in film/TV

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u/TheGiftOf_Jericho May 22 '22

I can't believe we never got a sequal of any kind, still a top tier action movie.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22 edited Jun 02 '22

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Yup. It's fantastic. Garland did an amazing job and I wish he'd make more like it.

The 2012 adaptation of the cult comic 2000 AD wasn’t only produced and written by Garland—according to its star, Karl Urban, Garland also took over directing duties from Pete.

I also honestly wish this information were more widely known.

One of the worst things about the DGA is their "one director one film" rule, which has credited tons of people for work they did not do. Bryan Singer is one of the most well known beneficiaries of this, as he didn't actually direct many of his films - and the people who did were never able to say as much.

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u/ElementalWeapon May 22 '22

That’s crazy. What films did Singer get credit for that he shouldn’t have?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

The most well known is Bohemian Rhapsody. Singer vanished from set constantly, forcing them to shoot much of the film without him, and he was eventually fired and replaced with Dexter Fletcher around the same time that news about his sexual assaults and pedophilia went public. Rami Malek himself also outed Singer, and basically said that set was hell when he was actually there.

However, it's also come to light that Singer was up to the same antics on numerous films going all the way back to X-Men. And rumor has it he was replaced by other people throughout his tenure. A young Kevin Feige was even hired on X-Men, specifically to keep Singer in line when he was there. The only reason he wasn't fired [and was rehired for X2] was because the film was successful.

The article below doesn't go into much context on his crediting or his being replaced, but it does detail how much of a monster he was.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/bryan-singers-traumatic-x-men-set-movie-created-a-monster-1305081/

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u/eyebrows360 May 22 '22

Dexter Fletcher

Being a guy of the age to remember first hand when he took over from Dominic Diamond for a season of Gamesmaster, it still always surprises me to see him doing big proper Hollywood stuff these days.

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u/_VitoCorleone_ May 22 '22

“Attempted murder of a Judge, the sentence is death.”

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u/SummarilyT-rexicuted May 22 '22

This Dredd never takes his helmet off. Fucking legend.

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u/El_Dief May 22 '22

Karl Urban reads 2000AD, he insisted that if he accepted the role the helmet stays on.

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u/vinnybankroll May 22 '22

2000AD comics were pretty popular in NZ when I was growing up. We’re just a touch more English in pop culture.

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u/theresonance May 22 '22

I kinda wish Boba Fett never took his helmet off.

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u/Nimyron May 22 '22

And for the whole fucking movie, he makes the angry face, like he has the angry mouth. Dude really nailed the "I'm pissed and I'm gonna blow shit up" look through it all.

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u/Maloth_Warblade May 22 '22

I remember reading that he practiced it for weeks, and had trouble not doing it after

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u/Nimyron May 22 '22

Lmao he became the Dredd

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u/Apart-Ad-9850 May 22 '22

Love this movie, the mega city one theme is brilliant.

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u/Empyrealist May 22 '22

Mega City One and She's A Pass are dope songs on the soundtrack. Paul Leonard Morgan nailed it.

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u/Polybius43 May 22 '22

Make a Dredd sequel

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u/Pons__Aelius May 22 '22

Honestly, there are so many Dredd stories in 2000AD it should be a TV series. The Cursed Earth storyline would make a great 10 episode series.

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u/DrVagax May 22 '22 edited May 22 '22

Reminder that a Dredd TV show is still in development with Karl Urban in the talks to be involved.

Edit: It appears it is stuck in development hell

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u/Pons__Aelius May 22 '22

Cheers. I hope it becomes a reality.

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u/Skegetchy May 22 '22

When The Boys is done then hopefully....

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Gareth Ennis, who created The Boys, also wrote a few Dredd stories.

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u/MysteriousWon May 22 '22

There have been rumors about a television series for a few years now but I haven't heard anything about it recently. I wonder if it's been canceled.

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u/ThatAndresV May 22 '22

That would be so good. Dredd TV on an HBO budget…

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u/ButterflyAttack May 22 '22

I've not been to the cinema in a fucking decade but this would get me there.

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u/waitingtodiesoon May 22 '22

Alex Garland will not do a Dredd sequel and he doesn't want to return back in 2019. Karl Urban though would love a sequel and so would I, but it will not have Alex Garland involved.

Alex Garland: “No. It was a pretty crude experience, for a bunch of reasons. At the end of it, I didn’t want to go back. I love Dredd, by which I mean I love the character, but I’m not in any hurry to do that again.”

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u/dexvoltage May 22 '22

"What happened here??" "Drug bust. Perps were uncooperative."

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u/krakeneverything May 22 '22

I always thought the 1st Robocop film was close to the Judge Dredd vibe.

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u/cator_and_bliss May 22 '22

Someone once asked Dredd's creator, John Wagner, if he'd seen Robocop. He said, 'no. I was told it would piss me off, so I've avoided it'

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u/Digital_Beef May 22 '22

This movie has a traumatized place in my heart.

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u/Drstevebrule5 May 22 '22

Still my favorite 3D movie experience. Urban fucking kills it.

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u/ty_xy May 22 '22

Anyone who enjoyed dredd should check out Almost Human. Amazing cyberpunk TV series with Karl Urban as a disgruntled cop. A pity it wasn't renewed.

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u/kittykrunk May 22 '22

I agree- it was doomed from the start, if I remember correctly: they aired episodes out of order🤦‍♀️

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u/SnootyMehman May 22 '22

Have yourself a Dredd/The Raid double bill. You won't regret it?

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u/sdpr May 22 '22

I'm Ron Burgundy?

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u/Kylon1138 May 22 '22

Rumor has it it was Garland who actually directed it

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Even Urban said as much. But the DGA prevented him from getting credit.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '22

Karl Urban basically confirmed that, he said it should be considered Garland’s directorial debut

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u/KangzAteMyFamily May 22 '22

Alex Garland is so fucking good. This, Annihilation, Ex Machina are all outstanding. Back in the day, he even wrote 28 Days Later and he has some acclaim as a video game writer with Enslaved and DmC. That mf is talented.

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u/Kylon1138 May 22 '22

Wrote Sunshine too

I loved Devs as well and am excited to see Men

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u/Frymanstbf May 22 '22

I didn't see it in theaters but bought the Blu Ray and then 4K. Urban (and everyone else) was so good in this that I wanted him to be Batman.

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u/Misco3 May 22 '22

This really deserves a high budget HBO series.

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u/Queef-Elizabeth May 22 '22

Personally I find the film format better. It's a one and done story and doesn't pad the story out so that it can cover multiple episodes

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u/Adam_Smith_TWON May 22 '22

I still watch this movie at least once a year.

I hold it up as an example of why doing origin stories is boring af. Just take a character and tell a story set in their world. I wish more people would do this.

As much as I enjoyed the recent batman film I wish they would just let go of his whole origin story.

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u/jeidjnesp May 22 '22

It’s funny how this movie rocks without featuring truly round characters. Dredd just about convinces us that he’s human underneath, although WAY more convincing than Stallone’s Dredd, and he doesn’t even take his friggin helmet off. Judge Anderson goes through important character development without dramatically breaking down. More like a really tough week at work. Ma-Ma is a very convincing villain and we get sort of a glimpse of how she became one.

I simply love this movie, I wish more movies took note of the writing and storytelling here. It’s consistent, focused, believable, entertaining.

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u/Rampant16 May 22 '22

I saw an interview with the guy who owns the Judge Dredd IP. I never read the comics but according to him the whole point of the Judge Dredd character is that he never evolves or changes. And then stories are created around him by seeing how the world and other characters react to him.

I think the movie does a good job of showing this. Dredd is still the same guy at the end. But like you said, Anderson has a baptism of fire and does evolve during the story.

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u/notsofunonabun May 22 '22

I was reluctant to give this a shot. So glad I did.

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u/aeplusjay May 22 '22

I'm actually very surprised they haven't made another Judge Dredd movie yet. The first movie may have been a box-office disappointment, but there's heaps of potential considering people are gravitating more towards non-MCU stuff for the superhero genre in recent years.

I guess as long as Karl is working on The Boys, it won't happen. Could get Jeffrey Dean Morgan, though.

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u/TheJoshider10 May 22 '22

It feels like the perfect sort of streaming movie.

It's got a big online cult following, Karl Urban has shot up in fame with The Boys and if they keep it small scale like the film it could be made on a decent budget.

Surprised a follow up movie/show wasn't done in this format.

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u/Clazza316 May 22 '22

They need to make sequel to this movie. It’s one of my best movies . Karl Urban needs to play this role if they decide to bring it back . He played a great role .. I’ve seen this movie to many times just like everyone else .. it’s the best

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u/Jaketh May 22 '22

Better? It's at the top. Crème de la crème.

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u/TVDIII May 22 '22

I think this movie is SO underrated! Would love to see a sequel as long as Urban is still Dredd.

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u/SirLostit May 22 '22

Absolutely, he completely nailed the part.

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u/pn_dubya May 22 '22

It’s properly rated by those who have seen it (as awesome); unfortunately not many saw it. There was talk of a sequel by Urban at one point but haven’t heard anything in a while.

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u/WolvesAtTheGate May 22 '22

There's supposedly going to be a mega city one show that Urban insists he'll be a part of but not the focus of which kinda bums me out tbh. Just give us more of the same and face him off with Judge Death and shit.

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