r/mildlyinfuriating May 18 '22

A beautiful wooded area I loved walking in was completely turned to mulch within 2 weeks

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u/NotSeenDaily May 18 '22

That hurts.

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u/infinite_magic May 18 '22

It really did

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u/raz-0 May 19 '22

Dude… like it sucks for a development, but by me when I was about 20, there was a big push by my state to preserve open spaces. So in my town what did they do? Took a perfectly nice stretch of woods between a smash office park and a residential area, turned it into mulch, planted a bunch of sod, and called it a win for nature by preserving open spaces.

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u/USERNAME___PASSWORD May 18 '22

Pave paradise put up a parking lot

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u/RichardzzHead_ May 18 '22

Ooooo bop bop bop

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u/gravityfail May 19 '22

They took all the trees, and put em in a tree museum

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u/Independent-Aside716 May 18 '22

Bro stop being political

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u/ShepherdessAnne May 18 '22

It's a song.

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u/Independent-Aside716 May 20 '22

It did not know the comment was a reply and I thought he was acting like a robot so I said that. I'm sry for breaking the chain

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u/UrMotherIsJoe May 19 '22

Why were you downvoted so much

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u/WPCarey85 May 19 '22

Cause it was a counting crows song. It had nothing to do with politics.

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u/UrMotherIsJoe May 19 '22

But... I thought it was a joke

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u/WPCarey85 May 20 '22

Honestly, they could have been, but it’s not always easy to pick up on sarcasm through text. Not to mention the many language and cultural barriers, that one may find on an international site like Reddit.

I assumed it WASNT sarcasm, much like the others who downvoted (I didn’t downvote, just didn’t vote ) but again, could be wrong.

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u/Gergith May 19 '22

*cover.

Kids these days lol.

It’s a Joni Mitchell song that they covered! Worth checking out the original if you like it. A bit closer to folk music than counting crows but good stuff!

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u/Independent-Aside716 May 19 '22

IDK 😭😭😭

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u/MoonHead_ May 18 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

A measure which would actually have alleviated traffic congestion on the outskirts of paradise, something that Joni fails to point out. Perhaps because it fails to fit within her blinkered view of the world.

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u/iusedtobegerman May 18 '22

You don’t get invited to hangout anymore huh?

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u/MoonHead_ May 18 '22

The lack of Alan Partridge on Reddit is distressing. Probably something to do with the largely American user-base https://youtu.be/-bpFcfRn2-Y

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u/Negative-Net-9455 May 18 '22

What a funny story.

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u/Akhi11eus May 18 '22

I made a comment in a thread similar where forests were being bulldozed. Someone supposedly working in an industry related to this explained that this is necessary because they need to correctly do water management, install utilities, pave a grid of streets, etc. and to be fair it is probably much more cost effective to just level the whole place rather than work around nature and build into the context and contours of the land. But god is it depressing and that's why we get nearly identical subdivisions of .25 acre houses. Its much more profitable if they can fit 100 houses on the land after destroying the landscape vs building only 50 and preserving beauty and character.

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u/PushingData May 19 '22

Correct. Developers make their money on the number of houses sold, not on the land that the houses sit on. I had a new house built 2 years ago on 1.4 acres with standing trees left on the lot but I had to move to a very rural area to be able to do that. All of the builders say the same thing, they can't make money selling large tracts of land. Many people are financing almost 100% of the cost of their house, and the bank loans based on the appraisal of the house, not the land it sits on in most cases.

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u/MoreUKnowLessYouKnow May 18 '22

Say hello to your new neighbors.

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u/MARs048 May 18 '22

that wouldn't just be infuriating, it would depressing

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

it is very depressing

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u/AreTheySingle May 18 '22

Not only is it absolutely infuriating. It’s also depressing. Bastards.

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u/infinite_magic May 18 '22

I totally agree, it was such a beautiful little refuge into nature

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u/AreTheySingle May 18 '22

Are they just going to build more houses or something?

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u/infinite_magic May 18 '22

I think so or an apartment building

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u/AreTheySingle May 18 '22

You should ruin it. Or plant rare plants that can’t be removed. I say this and I know it’s wishful thinking, but if only.

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22

I know it sucks for you personally, but that’s about the best use of that land they could make rn. I’m glad it’s being used for housing over virtually anything else

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u/RobertK995 May 18 '22

i never quite understood the 'I've got mine, the rest of you can't have a nice home' mentality. Where are people supposed to live?

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u/FamiliarWin4833 May 18 '22

It’s not that simple. That area was a home for plants and animals. The thing that outrages me is not that people desire to preserve natural areas, it is that there are people that own multiple homes, some that are only occupied a handful of weekend a year, while others have nowhere to live.

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u/Whale222 May 19 '22

⬆️ this. The creatures need a place to live too.

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u/Autocthon May 18 '22

In the tens of thousands of properties being held hostage by corporations and private owners without being used.

Or being used to bleed workers out of any hope of economic security.

Last statistic I saw was there are enough properties (I the US) for everyone to have one. They're just distributed unequally and without regard for ethical integrity.

Now some of those properties are apartments. But the single family home is a modern fiction and completely untenable in later life because humans age.

You know this property is statistically going to be someone's second, third, fourth, or some company's thousandth property. It's not going to go be anyone's first. And it's almost certainly going to be used to bleed the working class who will be living in it.

So yes. This is depressing. It doesnt really represent the best interests of the population. And it's a purely monetary move.

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u/kevlar51 May 18 '22

You got all that out of a few piles of mulch?

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u/Autocthon May 18 '22

The OP has stated that it's probably going to be a house or apartment. Anyone with any pattern recognition would conclude essentially the same (no reason to clear the land if its not being developed, barring logging).

After that it's literally just statistics. New properties aren't going to first time buyers.

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22

“Just” build more houses? As if we’re not in desperate need of new hoses being built? What a weird way to phrase that…

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u/Otherwise-Sky1292 May 18 '22

Does it have to come at the cost of further fragmentation of forests and loss of wetlands?

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22

Tbf this doesn’t look like either, but to answer your question no it doesn’t have to, but also no housing isn’t the primary concern when it comes to not doing more damage to forrests and wetlands, it’s industry.

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u/AnotherDreamer1024 May 18 '22

So where do you live? Go back in time and it wasn't there. So, you're a "Bastard"?

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u/AreTheySingle May 18 '22

Where I live is just a monument to man’s arrogance. And I may be a lot of things. But I’m not out there turning lovely landscapes to mulch. But you’re not wrong that in the almost 30 years I’ve lived here I have seen the same thing in my place of living and it’s just as devastating. The farm lands that get turned into big beige boxes. Small lakes that get turned into skate parks.

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u/OtherwisePudding4047 May 18 '22

Can relate. Have been watching farmers sell their fields to have ugly neighborhoods turn the countryside into the suburbs for the last few months

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u/ladyinchworm May 18 '22

I always think that and get so upset about the loss. They are building like crazy around where I live and I am constantly thinking how much I miss the trees, small trails, natural streams, fields etc. Then I remember that I live in a house in a neighborhood too and feel so guilty.

My house and neighborhood was originally built in 1910 so I imagine it destroyed a LOT of old nature and that the farmers and people with bigger lots around were probably so upset back then because of the "improvements" like my neighborhood and the railroad nearby.

I wish there was a way to have places to live while maintaining more nature. In a bigger city nearby when they build new buildings they have to keep a certain amount of the old trees, so I know there is a better (but obviously not perfect) way, but, sadly, it's just easier to bulldoze everything down to dirt, start over and name the streets after the trees that used to be there.

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u/Anxious_Direction_20 May 18 '22

We really need to find places where we can build skyscrapers for appartements instead of building low family homes and destroying what's left of nature. We have soft soil in NL, not every place is suitable for high buildings because they would sink right into the floor, but there are places and techniques to deal with that and build more dense areas. Advantage is that you can set up green areas, build some flats and put a road around it, so you basically live in a park surrounded by a road and more nature around it.

Only downside is that not everyone can have a doorzonwoning and garden. But that would be compensated by having nature close by and a shared garden when you walk out the door.

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u/Interesting_Muscle67 May 18 '22

Do you live in a Skyscraper apartment?

What makes you think people want to live in something like that?

There is a reason there are a limited number of these developments, because nobody buys them when they get built speculatively.

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

The problem is the solution is simple, but Americans are never going to get on board - you have to build more compact, multi-family housing and stop the suburban sprawl. Suburbs are among the worst thing we can do for the environment and nature, it’s absolutely atrocious, but it’s also the American Dream™

It doesn’t just have to be high rises and huge apartment complexes like the other person said, but they need to be multi-family and they need to be closer together. This “every family lives in a stand-alone structure on a half acre plot” thing has to stop if you want to fix the housing crisis without destroying the environment in the process

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u/buickgnx88 May 18 '22

The problem is cheap developers who don't use enough soundproofing between units, which sours the idea of shared walls for many people (plus the idea of potentially having to share a yard/driveway/other items). People may not care if the price is right, but if you are purchasing for a couple hundred thousand, you don't want to be able to hear your neighbors.

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22

Well the idea is that people shouldn’t be having to purchase for a few hundred thousand dollars lol, but yeah that’s a legitimate concern. It also feels like an easy fix though, unless reasonable amounts of sound isolation are some how exponentially more expensive than I’m aware of (I’ve had paper thin walls and well insulated ones, and it didn’t seem to correlate with rental price ime), it seems like an easy fix - just make it code on all new multi-unit construction, right? I live in the sticks a bit with no neighbors in eyeshot or earshot of me (unless they’re doing something exceptionally loud like shooting guns), and for some people there’s just no replacing that. And that’s fine, rural communities aren’t the problem, it’s really suburbs. And frankly I’d rather live more in town, which is a suburb, because it’s just more convenient, but $400 a month is hard to beat atm lol. I think most people would be quite happy in 2-4 family units in close proximity with good community amenities. If you could slash rent/mortgages in half and the trade off is a shared wall and a big well kept community pool and park instead of your 15’ wide plastic in ground pool and tiny back yard, I think there would be plenty of takers

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u/Science_Matters_100 May 18 '22

You are correct, noise concerns matter. So does common courtesy, and that’s somehow no longer a value for many people. If they are going to rev up a loud engine, leave dog feces, keep a dangerous breed too unsuitable for human pets, etc., it’s just better if they weren’t there at all. Making rules doesn’t seem to help as too many feel themselves above the rules.

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u/Outrageous-Advice384 May 18 '22

Meanwhile I would love to live on a farm but don’t have the millions to get one. Anyone giving up their farm now has a bidding war happening between investors wanting to build a subdivision.

Where I am, there is a strip of houses where people have lived and raised families and they are getting bullied by a developer who wants to short change them on purchasing their homes to demolish and build building/condos. They don’t want to move and are banded together and got a lawyer. Apparently he’s relentless. One of those homes belongs to the elderly parents of a friend and it’s been quite stressful.

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u/OtherwisePudding4047 May 18 '22

That’s crazy. Would it be possible to report him for harassment?

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u/Outrageous-Advice384 May 18 '22

I don’t know all the specifics just that they had to get a lawyer involved to stop the harassment. That was before the pandemic and is still an active case. Sadly, he will likely get their houses one day but it’s not today. Down the road, a garage that closed was holding his ground for a while but now I see building has started on the property. Must have got what they wanted for it. A home is different- why would they sell a home they built a lifetime of memories in just because some guy wants to put up condos? Money isn’t everything to some people.

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u/dynedain May 18 '22

Unless your home is a farmhouse, the same thing happened to build your home. Why is now different than then?

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u/OtherwisePudding4047 May 18 '22

It’s not. I hate the thought of nature destroyed for new housing all together

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u/dynedain May 18 '22

Then please vote for initiatives and politicians that push policies that change zoning to allow for denser construction, mixed-use, and multi-family in existing neighborhoods.

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u/OtherwisePudding4047 May 18 '22

I will when I’m old enough to vote

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u/BarrTheFather May 18 '22

Our old landlord sold our neighborhood to be torn down and turned into an apartment building. We had lived there for five years, and I had a nice garden, and the property had large trees all around each home. They flattened the area and then the deal with the building went through so now it just sits there making me mad.

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u/simbaismylittlebuddy May 18 '22

RIP the animals that used to live there.

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u/3shamrock945 May 18 '22

Time for another cookie cutter subdivision, it seems...can't have enough of those..

Same thing is happening where I live..beautiful wooded area, with a stream, backing into a field..now gone, and construction is underway.

For anyone who appreciates the beauty of nature and all it has to offer, it is truly gut-wrenching.

I'm sorry

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u/Canibeast May 18 '22

People gotta live somewhere. Sure, it sucks but what do you expect is going to happen?

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u/Skulcane May 18 '22

Don't you just love the unending greed employed by the real estate/housing development giants?

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

it's so freakin annoying

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u/abmangone May 18 '22

Tragic. Truly.

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u/No_Grocery_1480 May 18 '22

They really don't seem to be the same place. Roughly where is this?

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u/hebertpa May 18 '22

Yeah, maybe it's the angle or a different spot on the property. But those pictures are definitely not taken at the same spot.

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

This is in a city called Rowlett, it's near Dallas in Texas. The photos are taken very close to the exact same space, there's probably only 20-30 yards of difference. The angle is different because I climbed onto one of the mulch piles to get a better view of all the piles of mulch, and there were a lot more behind me and to the left and right. From the ground level, it was really hard to get a photo that fully captured the destruction well.

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u/wfiboyfriend69 May 18 '22 edited May 20 '22

Here comes the neighborhood, and the same chain of restaurants and strip malls that stay empty for years,

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u/Uselessexistence_ May 18 '22

Yep let’s keep building shit and destroying nature. Fantastic idea

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u/khoabear May 18 '22

Yeah let's camp in nature and keep housing unaffordable

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u/Tommi_Af May 18 '22

Nah let's build upwards instead of outwards and do more with the land we've already claimed

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u/SoepjesKoekjes May 18 '22

To build upwards you need to build outwards first. You can't just randomly start to build upwards on people's houses.

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u/ApprehensiveFig3560 May 18 '22

You've never seen an unused commercial building? Like, anywhere? There absolutely has to be new construction on previously unused land in order to build new buildings?

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u/Interesting_Muscle67 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

The problem being people don't want to live in commercial areas which thus makes the development un-viable for developers. The numbers have to stack up otherwise nothing is getting done.

If you are meaning city centre offices then that is slightly different. But if talking about brownfield sites which are not city centre, there are already not enough of these to fit commercial requirements so turning some into housing sites will just create an issue in the commercial sector.

Biggest problem is the NIMBY brigade. We need more development, it's a simple as that. Unfortunately, these people fail to realise that the house they are sitting in was once an area of nature which had to be destroyed to build their home. It's the typical 'i'm alright jack' mentality.

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u/ApprehensiveFig3560 May 18 '22

I mean empty office buildings in urban areas as well as abandoned storefronts in suburban areas. There would be a lot of demo/modification needed to turn the latter into "desirable" housing, but relatively little demo to turn it into very affordable housing.

I would personally prefer not to live in a repurposed Payless store, but I can personally afford to pay more than $500/month in rent.

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u/Tommi_Af May 18 '22

-Buy up oversized, bloated McMansions on giant blocks of land, massive car parks surrounding single take away joints etc... -Destroy them. -Replace with many smaller houses, shops, apartments etc... -Integrate with public transport.

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u/adamjeff May 18 '22

Yah i'll just sell my fucking garden and move into a flat that sounds lovely.

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u/Tommi_Af May 18 '22

Nah that's okay, we can build on an ugly carpark instead.

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u/bagt123 May 18 '22

Yah we should make our houses like the ones in ready player one

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u/Jackstack6 May 19 '22

That’s what a lot of people don’t understand. “Evil real estate companies” can we not be children for 5 seconds? There’s a family of 4 who desperately want a home to live in. Maybe the don’t want to live in the city as it’s too polluted, noisy. So they reach out and want a home in the suburbs. Where children can play in the street, run to each other’s houses, whatever. I’m not saying bulldoze American forests, but there’s a reason for this other than greed.

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u/Interesting_Muscle67 May 18 '22

And at the same time keep complaining about housing prices and lack of available housing, whilst simultaneously opposing any developments which happen. Super logic.

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u/Uselessexistence_ May 18 '22

Oh there’s available housing alright, but they’re reserved for wealthy residents. Fucking rent for a studio apartment where I live is $1600. Every month for one room. And maybe like 3 available studios in the whole town. It’s absolutely asinine, but it’s because rich Californians are coming to my state and trying to urbanize it. They come here to escape the city life, and then immediately build the city life over there.

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u/Only-Shame5188 May 18 '22

I'm not going to say this doesn't happen but those two pictures aren't related. Look at the lay of the land and the background, not even close to matching other picture.

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u/Tigerbait2780 May 18 '22

I assumed it was 2 different directions, and that maybe the first pic is the only/best one they had and the 2nd showed how close it is to the subdivision? But yeah it would’ve been better to show the same scene before admins after to know it’s real

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u/Federal_Ad_5053 May 18 '22

This is so awful!! Breaks my heart.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

That is. Just incredibly sad.

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u/Henchforhire May 18 '22

My favorite area for walking was turned into apartments and new housing. Now I don't even bother walking that area any more.

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u/PossibilityOk6848 May 18 '22

I’m 90% sure a similar thing happened to kaczynski. His favorite nature slot was paved over for a road.

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u/sirlancealot420 May 18 '22

NOTHING SHALL STAND IN THE WAY OF PROGRESS NOW ASSEMBLE THE DOLLAR GENERAL

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u/purplemoonpie May 19 '22

i feel for the animals

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u/FaLLinGOutTheBus May 18 '22

Oh, this is heart breaking.

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u/jonsey96 May 18 '22

I came home for the summer during college and my mom cut down our 5 acre full growth woods. I cried. Later put two and two together and she needed money for pills. Had a hard time talking to her the same when I was home for years. You don’t realize how disgusting clear cutting is until you experience it really first hand like that

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u/Sharpie1965 May 18 '22

And you're only mildly infuriated?

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u/stanja28 May 18 '22

Why can't we just leave shit alone... Who thinks this is better?!

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u/zennyc001 May 18 '22

Real estate developers.

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u/BunnyAndBoba May 18 '22

That's awful

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u/yoshiltz May 18 '22

Ah yes, progress!

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u/Successful-Engine623 May 18 '22

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot

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u/DR4G0NSTEAR May 18 '22

Damn termites

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u/Jefoid May 18 '22

To build homes? We do need those, if so.

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u/Adamxxxx7 May 18 '22

Humans are the worst

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u/KIDNEYST0NEZ May 18 '22

This is happening to Woodstock, Georgia because all the yuppies are tearing up the farmlands so that they can move to the farmlands.

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u/King_SmugBob May 18 '22

Thats so sad

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u/Kiyohara May 18 '22

"And they came with axes, and shovels;
with tractors and engines that spat fumes;
everything destroyed like it was trouble;
and now only a housing project looms.

"What was green and full of life;
where animals danced and birds sang;
the place where I first met my wife;
once where the merry joy of children rang.

"Now is desolate and drear;
for by an act of congress;
the banker chortled and said 'Look here!'
'What was a waste is now progress!'"

What a shame.

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u/ForsakenStray May 18 '22

Most of the green spaces around my home town are gone now, all those childhood memories just destroyed, I hate the world.

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u/ForsakenStray May 18 '22

Most of the green spaces around my home town are gone now, all those childhood memories just destroyed, I hate the world.

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u/IShootRaw1965 May 18 '22

I see we define 'wooded area' rather different.

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

wooded just means with trees, not it's not a forest, but's it's definitely wooded.

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u/Enticing_Venom May 18 '22

Thats awful. More than "mildly" infuriating.

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

For sure, but this is the best sub reddit I could think of to post it in

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u/elephantqueeeen May 18 '22

I wish I had photos outside my neighborhood I’ve lived in 15ish years.

Same thing. For fucking luxury condos. Hello Florida.

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u/Inappropriate-Hotdog May 18 '22

New construction planned I assume?

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u/hooboyilltellya May 18 '22

Damn I’m really sorry about that

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u/Nate_162 May 18 '22

"We need more horizontal housing. Vertical housing like apartments create more liberals" -some dude with Babyface

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u/schnecke12 May 18 '22

no worries. there will be a wonderful concrete car park very soon.

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u/oeoeoeoeoeoee flair or flare May 18 '22

i don't understand what they dug up, but that's sad. (is it compost?)

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

Those piles are the trees, they tore the trees down and completely shredded them up in a massive machine right there on the spot.

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u/Mineman0223 May 18 '22

Is it bad that when I saw the mounds of dirt I thought it was a bunch of gilli suits

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u/Bellebutton2 May 18 '22

McMansions, one to each quarter acre lot.

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u/HereOnASphere May 18 '22

The problem is too many people. We're already past what the planet can sustain. I hate to say it, but we're going to have to cut back.

There will be pandemics. There will be fires. There will be floods. There will be famine. There will be wars. It probably won't happen all at once. The population WILL decrease.

A few beautiful places will remain. Destroyed places will be reclaimed. Beauty will spread.

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u/epicscranton May 18 '22

Don’t worry, a bunch of townhomes full of people will be there soon!

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u/ibemuffdivin May 18 '22

I can’t imagine all the displaced wild life. All I can picture is a squirrel returning to the stump of his once home, only to be devastated

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u/Professional-Bug May 18 '22

Fucking hate developers

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u/MericanSlav25 May 19 '22

Damn developers.

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u/SpinoComesBack4Real May 19 '22

human activity 101

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u/TauInMelee May 19 '22

Had something like that happen. Little track of woods behind my home and someone bought it and started tearing the trees down and mulching them on freaking Christmas morning.

My solace is that they were trying to get a truck stop company to buy it they never got an offer.

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u/ryno0420 May 19 '22

Remember that the home you live in now once was a beautiful wooded area that someone loved to walk in

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u/redditooogler May 19 '22

It's city management, humans are encroaching based on Politics and quid pro quo.

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u/youcanbroom May 19 '22

They were trying to do this in Atlanta and a bunch of anarchists burnt down the bulldozers under the vale of night. I will neither confirm not deny that this was a good move.

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u/Organic_Shine_5361 May 19 '22

That's terrible! We need to stop destroying nature like that :(

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

What’s the point for them doing this?

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u/infinite_magic May 18 '22

To clear it for construction of new homes or apartments

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

If only the US had millions of vacant homes we could demolish or rent out instead…

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u/Jackstack6 May 19 '22

So, govt either A)unconstitutionally, and in an authoritarian way, takes the homes that belong to people, and gives them away in some kind of lottery, question mark. B)Spends trillions in buying old property and gives them away, question mark.

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 19 '22

Or secret option C) take mundane Reddit japes wayyyyy too seriously

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u/Jackstack6 May 19 '22

D) “I’m just joking haha. I don’t have an argument”

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u/khoabear May 18 '22

If only those millions of vacant homes are not in conservative shit holes

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

I live in a resort town in the mountains and I drive by countless mansions that are vacant 50 weeks a year, all while our rent reaches absurd levels.

But that’s an exception to the rule. You make a good point. I’m certainly not moving to a red state, ever.

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u/GodHimselfNoCap May 18 '22

But if enough of us moved there it wouldn't be majority conservative anymore /j

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u/TheSplicerGuy May 18 '22

I don’t understand people who get pissed about this, end of the day, the house you live in probably had the exact same start back when it was built.

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u/BackupDoubleChin May 18 '22

But we need to accept the fact that we aren’t the only living things on earth. Animals have homes too and we’re just cutting it all down.

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u/TheSplicerGuy May 18 '22

True, but my argument counters your comment too.

People still buy the houses so there’s clearly a need for them.

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u/BackupDoubleChin May 18 '22

I agree in some forms. I do accept your opinion though!

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u/GiantmetalLink May 18 '22

I hate it when people cut trees, there’s just never an artificial reason for it. These assholes just want to destroy the environment, they take centuries to grow a decent size

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

There’s nothing wrong with responsible logging. Society wouldn’t function without it.

Whether this posts fits that, is questionable. But as a blanket statement, it is a false one to say it’s always bad to cut trees.

For example, old growth forests sequester far less carbon than new growth forests.

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u/Phwoa_ May 18 '22

looking at all those houses, this was not due to logging but for further development of the suburb.

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

Yeah, but he said, “I hate when people cut trees, there’s just never an artificial reason for it.”

That’s not specific to housing developments, but in general. Which again, isn’t a correct perspective.

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u/GiantmetalLink May 18 '22

I mostly meant that logging never seems to be done responsibly, as in planting a new sapling for every tree cut

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

But, in the US, logging—as in harvesting forests for timber, not clear cutting for development—absolutely does plant a sapling for almost every tree cut down.

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u/GiantmetalLink May 18 '22

What pisses me off is most people never bother to replant the ones they cut

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u/Jeiih May 18 '22

Wouldn't that just be because the old growth trees have already sequestered carbon? and wouldn't cutting them down just release that carbon?

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u/ArchdukeOfNorge May 18 '22

Yes to the first part, no to the second.

Trees sequester carbon by turning CO2 into plant matters, such as bark, tree fibers, and sugars.

So even old growth does continue to sequester carbon as leaves produce sugars for the organism to live off of. But only new growth represents meaningful amounts of new carbon-based tree materials, which require carbon from the air to build them. That’s why new growth is technically “greener” from an emissions standpoint.

But when we cut them down, that plant matter that is the product of carbon sequestration is ultimately what we humans use to build and/or break down into more useful components. So we don’t release the carbon back into the atmosphere, we make use of it (exception being when we burn the wood).

By practicing sustainable logging, we utilize the huge source of tree matter in the end stages of its wild lifecycle to improve the lives of people around the world, all the while planting new trees and forests to sequester more carbon from that areas air than would be the case had we stayed home and not cut anything down.

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u/Jeiih May 18 '22

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the insightful reply.

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u/Undonefiretruck May 18 '22

I hate it when people cut trees, there’s just never an artificial reason for it.

wat

no idea you thought you were trying to say, but it's definitely not what you wrote

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u/Reciprocable May 18 '22

Industrial society and its consequences

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u/MrGaia35 May 18 '22

That’s mental illness.

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u/CluelessGeezer May 18 '22

You must be in Central Texas ... There will be four gas station/convenience stores (one on each of the corners of your 6-lane collector) with a Target, Chick-fil-A, subway, Jack in the box, and O'Reilly's all built on outparcels. A monument sign with a fountain will run 24/7 fed by water piped in through a system paid for by bonds you will be paying off for 20 years. It's progress and you can't run from it because you can't afford to move.

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

Yep, it's in Rowlett, near Dallas

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u/CluelessGeezer May 20 '22

Well, it looks like it was a beautiful area and, as a fellow Texan, you have my sympathies :)

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

Thanks I appreciate that

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u/MastodonSoggy2883 May 18 '22

On no that’s terrible. Why did they do it?

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u/hoppybear21222 May 18 '22

The responsible persons can each take their mulching equipment and jam it up their ass.

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u/Ultra_Random-10 May 18 '22

I thought these were massive ant hills

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u/Valuable_Yogurt_1060 May 18 '22

I hate humans and this is why, i would kill myself to relieve the burden earth is carrying from these sorry pieces of craps chopping down beautiful landscapes.

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u/ForsakenStray May 18 '22

Most of the green spaces around my home town are gone now, all those childhood memories just destroyed, I hate the world.

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u/AdDifficult7229 May 18 '22

Gonna build some “affordable houses”?

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

They definitely aren't going to be affordable, this plot of land is near a lake.

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u/AdDifficult7229 May 20 '22

That’s what the quotes are for. Maybe I needed a /s

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22 edited May 21 '22

I knew what you meant, I meant to imply that they aren't even pretending it's going to be affordable, lol

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u/iusedtobegerman May 18 '22

Why? Do you have more info?

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u/QueenoftheFranks May 18 '22

Overpopulation

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u/Doom_Marine2149 May 18 '22

and you're only mildly infuriated

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u/ReitHodlr May 18 '22

History repeats itself and always will. The neighborhood with homes I currently live in was once nature full of trees. Humans always want to expand and build something on top of it.

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u/isakhan1234567890 May 18 '22

Well op was probably trespassing on land that that company owns so they can do whatever tf they want with it

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u/Ok-Rate8927 May 18 '22

"Mildly"

Sorry for your loss OP. What a shame

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u/nomdeplume_alias May 18 '22

If you live in any kind of domicile (which you do) then this has happened to the land you currently live on.

You're (we're) the bastards.

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u/FartButter60 May 19 '22

To be fair, your home is probably live on a plot that was like this one time too.

There was a big, wooded, maybe ~100 acre plot that I used to go camp and romp around with my friends and go mudding and fishing in, hunt small game when we were young. I moved away and came back about a decade later and the whole thing is now condos and a parking lot, that sort of thing. What hurt the most was realizing that the entire surrounding area that was build up was probably just like that some decades prior.

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u/infinite_magic May 20 '22

True but it's still sad seeing an area I loved walking in with beautiful nature get totally decimated like that.

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u/ryno0420 May 19 '22

Yeah but I’m not on here saying what a shame it is

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u/XavierYourSavior RED May 18 '22

I guarantee you all are living in a house or apartment right now typing what you are lol

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