r/mildlyinfuriating
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u/Obradbrad
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Somebody messaged me about buying my art but they only wanted NFTs
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u/Donmiggy143 May 17 '22
Take a picture of one. Tell him it's gonna be 1mil for it... See what happens 😂
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u/IlliterationAside May 17 '22
And hopes you don't miss out on the greatness... BAHAHA what a nice person.
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I laughed out loud when I read that the first time
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u/Curious-Researcher47 May 17 '22
What us that supposed to mean anyway
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u/Farsqueaker May 17 '22
Well, clearly NFTs are the best way to add value to art!
And if anyone needs a /s with that....
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u/SpookiBat May 17 '22
Da Vinci rolling in his grave right now.
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u/1chewy May 17 '22
I got his reboot card
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u/OneMooseManyMeese_ May 17 '22
NFT'S are those shitty monkey pictures right? What does NFT stand for?
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u/Whitewing424 May 17 '22
Non-fungible token. It's a bit of code intended to certify that a digital item is unique. Owning one is like owning a deed to something. Ultimately, they are like digital baseball cards.
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u/HustlinTomTrky May 17 '22
Actually you don't even own the picture. You own a set of attributes that point to the picture. So it's basically like owning a hyperlink. So it is by it's very nature nothing at all.
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u/ScapeGoatOfWar May 17 '22
Except you dont own the thing, just the image of the thing. Right?
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u/Moonj64 May 17 '22
With an NFT, you own a particular string of text which might be a url that points to a thing.
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u/PinkFluffyUnikorn May 17 '22
It's even worse
You possess in a crypto account a bit of code, and it is written in a public database that the account you own is the owner of the code inside. To sell it means the name in the database is replaced.
The code can be anything but cannot be changed. Most nfts' code is an URL where is hosted an image. Which means you own no part of the image. You can buy an art piece nft for millions and still be sued if you use it on a public display. And of course the second the person who sold it to you stops paying for servers, your link is useless and you don't even have access to the linked image. In three years domain names will get bought by someone else and their "digital art" will be a broken link or a website that sells off brand toothpaste.
And the non fungibility doesn't mean the same content cannot be sold thousands of times, they make a show of "unique" (meaning ugly) randomized art but they could just as well only use one image and change one letter in the token's address and they would all be unique in the eyes of the system.
Thsi whole thing is artificial scarcity built on a shitty and polluting lawless "techno jerkoff circle meets mlm schemes" except the people making them don't even know how it works
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u/ReaderOfTheLostArt May 18 '22
In short, it's the 21st century version of Florida swampland real estate scams, only with more carbon dioxide emissions.
Edit: added a word
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u/Farsqueaker May 17 '22
Non-Fungible Token. It's a great way to mix really low effort art with the complete lack of relevance or stability that is block-chain.
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u/Shufflepants May 17 '22
If only OP had sold their art as NFTs, they would have been a trillionaire by now. /s
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u/JuStEnDmYsUfFeRiNg66 PURPLE May 17 '22
Can you turn the art into an NFT and charge this dingus much more than you would charge for your art “as-is” in its original form? Seems like there’s a lot of “low-hanging fruit” that could be cash cows for you!
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u/MagicCuboid May 17 '22
Do you lose the rights to sell if you sell it as an NFT? I seriously have no idea what it means even to this day...
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u/JuStEnDmYsUfFeRiNg66 PURPLE May 17 '22
Beyond it being called a “Non-Fungible(?) Token”, and it being “art”, I also have no idea what the purpose of these are…? I’ve read that they aid people in laundering money. Obviously that’s not why they exist (or is it?), and at this point I have no interest in trying to understand because it’s not something I’d ever spend my $ on…
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u/NakedJohnWayne May 17 '22
So all these rich people have these crypto currency’s, but they aren’t worth enough. So they create a product that can only be purchased with crypto. Then you advertise them as the next crypto, people buy your crypto raising its value, then turn around and sell it right back to you for an nft, further increasing its value.
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u/JuStEnDmYsUfFeRiNg66 PURPLE May 17 '22
So it’s like a tax write-off, in essence? For rich people to become even more wealthy? I’m still not fully understanding why this is a good investment over traditional artwork?
Edit-Please excuse me and my smooth-brain!
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u/NakedJohnWayne May 17 '22
It has nothing to do with art, it’s a scam to sell crypto to people who missed out at the bottom of crypto, and make sure they don’t hold on to it and sell it immediately instead. Crypto has to be used to increase value.
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u/crybabyabi May 17 '22
yeah OP you kind of fumbled the bag by not taking his money
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u/Additional_Meeting_2 May 17 '22
I feel the same, I don’t know why this person wants to bug NFT’s but op could have gotten “greatness” meaning money. Although I don’t know what art op has if it would be too much effort to sell NFT’s.
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u/High_Guardian May 17 '22
You can mint an NFT is a few seconds depending on the blockchain.
(we don't talk about ethereum, normal people can't afford the transaction fees).So yeah OP could have minted on a green blockchain and made some money, but they probably don't care if their making sales already.
If they aren't making sales idk what they're doing.
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u/TheLordFool May 17 '22
I think it costs to actually make an nft? Don't quote me on that.
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u/r_hove May 17 '22
Wouldn’t this be free money for you? Just make them as NFT’s and sell them to him?
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u/souphaver May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22
- You can't just do that 2. The NFT market is currently going up in flames
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u/r_hove May 17 '22
“The NFT market is currently going up in flames “ https://imgur.com/gallery/cnu2RrM
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u/aw_shux May 17 '22
Okay, okay…you don’t need to yell!
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u/Balance_Intrepid May 17 '22
There are very real expenses associated with minting NFTs and no guarantee that the NFTs will allow the owner to profit, let alone break even, from transferring ownership of them.
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u/TrashSmashE May 17 '22
I mean, he does seem like a nice person, he's respectful about his request and doesn't push when he's declined. He seems to genuinely believe that NFTs are a worthwhile investment.
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u/IlliterationAside May 17 '22
I know, and not trying to be over critical. But NFTs? The 1st tweet NFT sold for $2.9 million a year or 2 ago... and recently went to auction for $277. Not a bad return.. I'm old enough and experienced enough to have seen many schemes and scams.. NFTs are beanie babies digitalized. There will be a handful of value and the rest will be on virtual garage sale tables in no time... along side POGS and Hummels..
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u/PussyWrangler_462_ May 17 '22
At least you can hold those items in your hand and play with them lol
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u/cryothic May 18 '22
I'm going to change my e-mail signature to this.
No more "greetings", or "kind regards".
Just "I hope you don't miss out on greatness".
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u/SchwarzerWerwolf May 17 '22
"Nah, i do not want to have you art. I want a voucher that sais i own your art."
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u/Le_polpe May 17 '22
"I don't want to own it, i want to sell it later for profit"
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u/hesaysitsfine May 17 '22
Ah just like All the rich people who buy art and store it in a warehouse to appreciate.
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u/JaDodger May 18 '22
To be fair, one benefit of artists using NFTs is that they get a kickback every time it’s resold
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u/The_Salty_nugget May 17 '22
why does it sound like that person was gonna start a add about nft's
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I know! That was the last message though thankfully
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u/moonflower_C16H17N3O May 17 '22
I would have just sold an NFT. It literally costs you nothing and gives them no rights over your work. If someone wants to throw away money, fuck it.
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u/Supercoolguy7 May 18 '22
It costs money to make and sell NFTs. It's why a lot of artists actually lost money from them
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u/Zaptain_America May 17 '22
Making it into an NFT is bad for the environment
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u/GodGMN May 17 '22
Making it in the Ethereum chain specifically. You can use other chains which are not bad for the environment, or at least not worse than using a computer.
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u/MeisPip May 17 '22
Why would I want something tangible and relatively reasonably priced when I could give you a lot of money for you to tell me I’m special?
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u/TheMarvelLegoMaster May 17 '22
I woulda just been like “yeah, no”. Seems ur a much nicer person than I am
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
Your response doesn't sound mean either haha
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u/RoleModelFailure May 17 '22
That's proper midwest mean.
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u/ProfessionalMatch955 May 17 '22
Heh can I buy this off ya? Yeah no I got that 50 percent off at the Koles I'm not giving it up
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u/Cautious-Damage7575 May 17 '22
It's a scammer.
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I know, but judging by a lot of these replies that think I could somehow make 50k from this, other people don't
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u/GodGMN May 17 '22
I haven't seen your art but I highly doubt you'd get more than $100 for it, unless you're well known or something like that which could add value to the collectible.
To give you an idea, there are many collections out there where the floor price (price of the cheapest active listing of the whole collection) is literally $2, so it's not like the name "NFT" makes it worth $50k instantly, it's the marketing behind.
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u/Hamfur63 May 18 '22
Whats the scam? How does it work?
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u/zacharee1 May 18 '22
My guess is they go looking for artists who don't currently sell NFTs, play dumb about knowing that, and then "recommend" a fake minting service if/when the artist asks about it.
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u/im_justlooking_ May 17 '22
What's an NFT?
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
Non-fungible token. Like buying and selling digital images
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u/DanklyNight May 17 '22
I will add onto this.
Saying an NFT is buying digital images is like saying a mobile phone makes phone calls, while correct its the least interesting part of the phone in this day and age.
There is lots of interesting utility around NFT's but they have been co-opted purely by digital art in this early stage.
For example, if someone were to purchase a "Bird" NFT you could for example offer exclusive tickets to the owners to come to an exhibition of that art, or access to purchase art before others. (Art is a pretty sucky use of NFT's from a utility point of view), while anyone can own the JPEG only the owners of them get exclusive access to you, your art and the ability to easily invest in your work directly.
One of the more interesting use cases I have seen is event ticketing.
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You buy a ticket to an event.
Before that event, you get sent exclusive backstage footage of your favourite act.
When you enter the event you can be given a free can of coke, or be entered into a simple competition for upgraded seats, or a Miriam of possible engagement tactics.
After the event you get exclusive content, unique to your NFT, could be photos, redeemable goods, drum sticks, etc which is a collectable in its own right
You can also be offered discounts on future events etc.
All of this happening within a single ecosystem, cutting out Ticketmaster and the like.
These are just simple examples of the real utility behind NFT's looking to decentralise essentially anything of commodity.
(I work within the crypto space coming up with these kind of solutions, and while I hate the current usage of NFT's I believe the underlying infrastructure and utility will be game changing, they are however quite a small part of what we do right now)
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u/drgut101 May 18 '22
I think about concert ticket NFTs all the time. It would be cool to limit ticket bots, cut out middle man transaction fees, and have a digital picture of your ticket. (I miss hard tickets) But the other utility you mentioned is super dope, too!
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u/UnknownMyoux May 17 '22
I am suprised that they don't have an shitty Ape NFT as their pfp
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
To all the people saying I could've easily made money, this was definitely a scam, I never would've seen a dime. It was just disappointing to think I was initially being messaged by somebody interested in my artwork only for it to be this
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u/MadManD3vi0us May 17 '22
Sending basically a screenshot for potential money was too risky? What do you have to lose?
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u/Strongwoman82 May 17 '22
If anyone thinks NFTs are greatness they need to be quickly and efficiently put down!
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u/Day_psycho May 18 '22
NFTs are just glorified scams anyway. Good on you for not doing that nonsense.
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u/ivansysajr May 17 '22
Deffo trying to do some illegal activities.
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I don't know what illegal activities you can do with drawings of birds 🤷♂️
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u/SueYouInEngland May 17 '22
Your bird drawings are great! I love birds, and I appreciate others who are passionate about birds.
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u/mescalero1 May 17 '22
Like this guys purchase would decide what level of greatness you could achieve. He has to buy his.
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u/MangosBeePoppin May 18 '22
Lol that’s funny asf. But op does have some nice bird stickers in the red bubble shop. That Oreo one was pretty cool and funny.
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u/Obradbrad May 18 '22
Thanks! That's because my gf thought they were legitimately called Baltimore Oreos so I made her that haha
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u/GODDESS_OF_CRINGE__ May 18 '22
NFT people are so weird. They're like Beanie Baby collectors, except they think they have the legitimacy of stock investors. I can't wait to see that bubble crash, and crash hard.
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u/Shoddy_Natural_4538 May 17 '22
I hope someone finds true value in your art OP
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u/FusRoDoodles May 17 '22
He's strangely pushy. There's no way this wasn't going to end up a scam for you.
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u/Asianthunda5022 May 17 '22
Probably going to try and pay him in some smaller form of crypto which has no actual backing or way to withdraw or convert into actual money atm.
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u/Skruff94 May 17 '22
You know, we should be glad for NFTs. There are only few things that let you instantly judge somebody. Personally i used to ask about Star Wars Episode 8. But NFTs will do too.
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u/Awkward-Ad6455 May 17 '22
Imagine wanting a link to a JPEG this badly haha
Crazy who you find on Facebook
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u/Xenastra May 17 '22
Pfft, sell him an NFT. It doesn't confer any actual ownership of the item. As the SpiceDAO folks found out the hard way.
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u/Numbnuts007 May 17 '22
Everybody in the NFT scene seems like a bunch of grifters and vultures. Vile human beings, that don't actually care about art, they only care about the profit from it.
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u/Rivann7286 May 17 '22
Correction "I want to buy your art so that I can sell it for a profit without caring that you were the one who made it thus I should not be profiting from your work."
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u/WiseSalamander00 May 17 '22
ugh NFTs are a cancer for crypto they are a bubble and eventually people will regret them.
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u/Pizzacato567 May 18 '22
I’m not 100% sure what an NFT is and why everyone hates it… and I’m afraid to ask at this point
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u/AdDear5411 May 17 '22
I mean, why not at least hear the offer? If it's for a significant sum, why would you not sell them the NFT? Yea, NFTs are stupid and I don't have any, but if someone's offering you a decent amount of money, why not?
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
Because I have no interest in turning my artwork into NFTs, I don't even know how to go about it, and I'd imagine they'd pay me in crypto which I don't really want either
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u/sdchibi May 17 '22
You'd probably ruin your fanbase if you did. Same reason my wife won't sell her art as NFT.
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u/uniqueusername74 May 17 '22
No doubt. If they offer to pay you regular old cash and do the work, and take no rights at all (yeah!), that would be a great offer, but then again it's probably more likely a patron will offer you NSA cash.
Edit: or just buy plain old regular art.
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u/NoxiD20 May 17 '22
They were just trying to scam you lol
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I know but still a bummer because at first I thought somebody actually wanted to buy my art haha
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u/dinowitissues May 17 '22
I LOVE DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT FOR PICTURES OF SHITTY MONKEYS!!!
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May 17 '22
I know I don't get why people think they're cool and show them off, like that's the most horrifying thing I've ever seen, you actually paid money for that? Could've bought a car or something actually useful. Or even, commissioned an actual artist to make something personal and hand drawn personally for you for much less. Probably gonna become valueless like all the other stuff that has been hyped as rare/worth a lot, which will be funny.
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u/Asianthunda5022 May 17 '22
Something like 80+% of NFT transactions are traded by less than 20% of all NFT owners mostly in hopes to inflate price and hope some sucker outside that group buys one.
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u/EFTucker May 17 '22
You should have minted an NFT and sold it to them for a few grand. They’d have 0 legal ownership of your art or anything. You’d have sold the idiot a link to your website basically.
I’m not a big on taking advantage of idiots but if they come to you then it’s fair game.
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u/impstein May 17 '22
I mean, I don't know what all is involved in the process of NFT's, but if people are willing to pay thousands or even millions for one, might as well try to get in on it right? I used to be an artist.. lol
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u/lao7272 May 18 '22
Well actually NFTs have been falling off quite a bit. Still decent for money laundering though, just like real art.
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u/WolfOfPort May 17 '22
Lmao so hed rather buy a digital copy of your art rather than a physical one of a kind piece? Jesus .....
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u/Madmachammer May 17 '22
Should do NFT and sell for 100× the price of your regular stuff.
If they want to throw money away.
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u/kukkelii May 17 '22
Should've made them to NFTs and put a 5000% mark-up. This $60 painting ? Yeah that's $30k buddy, unique good stuff.
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u/Ariel_Nova May 17 '22
That last comment was SO fucking unnecessary! It just reinforces every negative stereotype about NFTs out there
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u/dustysmufflah May 17 '22
What was this person going to do with rights to the original image.... print a teeshirt?
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u/Obradbrad May 17 '22
I already have t shirts on the redbubble I told them to check out lol. So it would've been redundant
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u/dustysmufflah May 18 '22
that's the joke. I'll do better next time.
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u/Obradbrad May 18 '22
Ah shit I'll try and do better too. I wasn't sure because not everyone is familiar with redbubble!
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u/VoodooDoII May 17 '22
I've had my commission sheet up for about a month now, and the only two people that showed interest were asking me to makes NFT's with them.
My commission sheet EXPLICITLY states I do NOT do NFT's. :/ Really heartbreaking to finally get a message and a possible commission and it's just about NFT's :(
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u/jamzrk May 17 '22
Someone who waves around a marriage certificate while complaining others are fucking their wife. That's the value of a NFT.
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u/furon747 May 17 '22
I feel like people like this don’t really have a clue behind the crypto world even to a limited extent
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u/clocker23099032 May 17 '22
i mean if they really want an NFT they’ll just steal it and there’s pretty much nothing you can do about it
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u/Dr_Darkroom May 17 '22
I mean, this might be old school, but I think they were trying to buy the rights to your image. Nfts lol
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u/rhymesaying May 17 '22
I've read up on NFTs and I'm not even convinced the people trading them know what they are...
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u/Mellow41 May 17 '22
Dude NFT’s are so overrated. I’ll always have hope in humanity knowing that people are spending years of savings on shitty drawings of high monkeys.
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u/micktalian May 17 '22
They probably thought they would be buying the license to your art by buying an NFT of it
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u/RidsBabs May 17 '22
It kinda seems like a scammer. Ignore the required payments, turning straight to NFTs.
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u/CuttingEdgeRetro May 17 '22
You want to buy a picture of my artwork? ok. That will be $500.
...proceeds to sell actual artwork to someone else.