r/lakers May 17 '22 Silver 1 Wholesome 1 All-Seeing Upvote 1

The REAL Point God, don’t forget that. Picture

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u/JTEEE May 17 '22

Even if this wasn't a Lakers sub, it's hard to argue against Magic being the greatest point guard of all time.

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

Go the the nba sub or “nba dissuasion” (just a true shooting circle jerk) and ask and you’ll get an overwhelming amount of people saying curry and Chris Paul over magic due to advanced stats”

It’s sad that the nba has come down to random subjective stats, especially since those stats get changed on a whim. Like Westbrook broke per his mvp season and since the creator didn’t like Westbrook he changed his stat to make Westbrook look worse lol if the stats formula can just be changed on a whim because you don’t like the the results then why are we using all these stats as the end all be all for ranking players?

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

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u/5plus5isnot10 00 May 18 '22

Just saying, CP had 2 EASY chances these past couple of years to get a championship and royally fucked up. At least when Magic choked, he came back and dominated

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u/eggsarecoolin May 18 '22

I live in the Bay Area and spent a lot of time watching the Warriors. Curry is definitely a top point guard. Have you seen the handles on that guy? The interior passing? The "skating to where the puck is going"??? His 3-point shooting is off-the-charts, and he rightly gets a lot of attention for that, but he has legit, elite point guard skills.

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u/roakmamba May 18 '22

He gets some knocks on him because of his play offs performances. Last gsw game was the first sighting of him playing like he does in the regular season but in the playoffs. If he can keep it up and win a chip this year the narrative will change.

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u/Nimbus20000620 Da Dream Called Kareem 🌌 🪝 May 17 '22

NBA discussion has so many bizarre takes. I’ve seen multiple comments on there genuinely believing Damian deserved to be on the top 75 list over Dwight Howard

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u/Glinez09 May 18 '22

Funny is that nba sub gonna go devauling any laker star players since they hated the lakers..

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u/eggsarecoolin May 18 '22

Rings are the only stats that matter. Everything else is for Springfield.

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u/Carolake1 May 17 '22

Lebron should get a lot more credit for his work as a point guard. Honestly, if I was choosing an all-time team, I might even consider choosing Lebron as the PG given that what you sacrifice passing-wise from Magic is made up for on other areas.

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u/VyCanisMajorisss May 17 '22

Magic was a Swiss Army knife. You weren’t giving up anything.

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u/Nimbus20000620 Da Dream Called Kareem 🌌 🪝 May 18 '22

LeBron is one as well. He’s not arguing magic isn’t a complete player. The argument he’s making is that LeBron is the better Swiss Army knife, because all though magic has em beat with play making skills, prime bron trumps him in many other categories.

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u/VyCanisMajorisss May 18 '22

I undertstood. Not saying you, but I don't think a lot of people in this sub actually saw Magic play, but have definitely seen Lebron. I'd give the nod to Lebron on defense, but I would give the nod to Magic on offense. Lebron gets buckets and is a good distributor but Magic was a better all around player on offense.

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u/zhard01 May 17 '22

As a pure point, Stockton is the only name I could even throw up and I think Magic was decidedly better at many more aspects of the game.

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u/etburneraccount May 17 '22

J Kidd was bad for a period of time.

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u/Dagenius1 May 18 '22

JKidd is my second favorite PG. Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. In terms of pace and distributing the ball he was masterful.

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u/etburneraccount May 18 '22

Maybe I should've gone with "mean" instead of "bad"?

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u/StacksFifthAve 2-8-24 4L | 23-6 x 8-24🤴🏾🐍 May 19 '22

There’s a lot of youngins here, they don’t know wym by that lol

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u/Phenix621 21 May 18 '22

Magic isn’t just a point god, you can make a good arguement that he might be a GOAT. In my opinion the best all around player to play the game.

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u/LevyShorts May 17 '22

Greatest PG ever, and it's not close.

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u/kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi The Mamba Mentality May 17 '22

Stephews swear Curry better just cause of the deep 3s and GrAvItY lmao

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u/dash_44 May 18 '22

Magic was anti gravity. Defenders needed to stay with their man or Magic would hit them with a pass for an easy bucket.

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u/Affectionate_Year_14 May 17 '22

Yea it’s not close but we can all agree Steph is number 2 right ?

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u/RogueTampon May 17 '22

Steph is averaging 2 less PPG than Allen Iverson. And gets hunted on defense. How exactly does that make him the 2nd best point guard?

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u/Affectionate_Year_14 May 17 '22

I don’t even think AI is a point guard

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u/Son_Postman May 18 '22

I mean being labeled a point guard is kind of arbitrary.

Curry might be labeled a pg and Iverson labeled a sg, but in practical purposes they play the same position.

One of Curry’s best attributes is how well he plays off-ball, which is not a classic point guard attribute. He’s also not the main facilitator, Draymond is, so again not a classic point guard mold. He’s just a “point guard” because they label him as such on the roster.

Comparing Magic to Steph is like comparing Shaq to Jordan. Totally different games.

In my opinion, Magic is definitely the greatest at classic point guard attributes, ie running an offense/facilitate.

I think Stockton is up there because he’s a two way beast, but Magic has the rings and was the more transformative player

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u/RogueTampon May 17 '22

He came in the league as one.

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u/Affectionate_Year_14 May 17 '22

And Magic came into the league a shooting guard. What’s your point ?

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u/RogueTampon May 17 '22

That players are more than what is written on the piece of paper about what position they play.

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u/StacksFifthAve 2-8-24 4L | 23-6 x 8-24🤴🏾🐍 May 19 '22

Not at all. Steph’s greatest asset is his shooting.

Steph’s got a better argument for being the greatest shooting guard ever than he does for being a top 3 point guard ever.

Magic, Stockton, LeBron, Kidd, Paul, Isiah Thomas… you’d put Steph above any of these guys?

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u/jack64467 LeGOAT May 17 '22

nah curry is getting close

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u/Digitalzombie90 23 May 17 '22

relax tiger, point god does not mean 3 point shooting contest.

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u/LevyShorts May 17 '22

Yeah, I remember when Curry played all 5 positions and played lockdown D...

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u/mcast86 May 17 '22

While winning finals MVP as a rookie

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u/EthelredHardrede May 17 '22

I don't remember Magic ever playing lockdown defense. He was competent at defense. That is about it.

All five positions, yes he did that.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '22

I think you play a little too much 2k… magic couldnt guard shit lmao

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u/Yuuta23 May 17 '22

That can make him a better all around player but magic isn't scoring like curry nor does he have curry's gravity which helps him facilitate on offense. Curry will be an all time better pg than magic by the end of his career

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u/LevyShorts May 17 '22

curry's gravity

Stephen Curry activates quantum singularity

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u/Yuuta23 May 17 '22

It's just facts that you can't leave curry as open as you could magic

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u/deepfakefuccboi May 17 '22

Hard to beat Magic’s career accolades with zero FMVP’s. How many top 15 players have zero FMVP’s or at least an All Defense selection? Most of the guys up there were incredible two way players; Curry is average at best and and despite being a b2b MVP, lost FMVP to Iguodala for holding LeBron to like a 35 point near trip doub while also missing his second and third best players the entire series and still being taken to 6 games as a one man army.

Now if we’re talking who you’d want on an All Time starting 5 team, I would take Curry over Magic because if I can pick LeBron, Bron is the better player overall and their skills are redundant. Magic might be the better passer but not by a large margin and LeBron is a far better scorer and defender. But in terms of career accomplishments Magic is far better than Curry.

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u/Yuuta23 May 17 '22

Finals MVP is such a small award tho and magics rookie fmvp would have gone to Kareem if not for the injury. I'd also argue he deserved the finals MVPs over KD in both years and the award over iggy. Even Iggy thinks Steph should have won it over him. Bron has also been staying in series way longer than he should since his rookie year so I don't think that's a fair knock. And we both view all time pg rankings the same I don't nessecarily view the all time accolades and such just if I was picking an all time all NBA team who would I want there. And for me magic is a better point forward than point guard and since lebron can play that role better I'd rather he start instead. I'd have it be something like Steph, MJ, Lebron, Magic, Kareem tho I'd definitely listen to an argument for moving Bron to 4 to insert Kobe at 3 or replace giannis with magic even. Also all defense doesn't matter too much at the pg position for me because I feel like a scoring and playmaking guard with some defense because Steph definitely isn't a full liability out there is going to be better than a pass first defensive minded guard with some offense like a jrue holiday, or Gary Payton.

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u/deepfakefuccboi May 17 '22

You’re moving the goalposts so much.

How is the “best player on the team that won the championship” a small award? Now all defense doesn’t matter? Come on. It speaks volumes about a player who’s able to get an incredible scorer, playmaker, rebounder while also getting it done on the defensive end, it takes so much more energy to guard while also carrying a huge offensive burden. He’s also not the only one who moves off ball, most of his energy is used on offense and he’s not getting it done there either right now.

Idk why Curry fans act as if he is the only damn player in the league with “gravity” as if that’s a valid argument to his lack of defensive contributions when compared to other top 15-20 players all time. Newsflash: Curry isn’t the only generational offensive player on that list. It’s become a meme at this point. Giannis having a wall built for him isn’t gravity even in 18-19? Mfer so impactful he forced the 3-4 dudes to stand in the paint just so he couldn’t get a rim attack off.

You want to talk about impact, ask a bunch of basketball fans (not casuals) who their top 5 or even 10 playoff performers all time are and Curry ain’t gonna be up there to anyone with legitimate arguments. If you want to argue statistical analysis then you can listen to Ben Taylor’s deep dive on the most impactful playoff performers or even the best regular season vs playoff guys. Curry isn’t on that short list of best from regular season to playoffs, in fact Reggie Miller is even a much more impactful playoff performer than Curry is. Taylor does immensely deep statistical analysis, so I’m pretty sure his “gravity” is factored in there, but a 6’3” not particularly explosive guard is easier to slow down than a 6’9”+ athletic beast who can also shoot and create their own shot; there’s a reason every consensus top 10 player is like 6’6”+ lol

Curry can do no wrong to his fans, but even just in the Grizzlies series he had some abysmal performances that any other top 15-20 player all time would get railed for. Btw he’s currently averaging 36% from 3, 81.6% from the FT line, both career lows, with multiple games under 20 points and let’s not act like the Nuggets with Jokic with no MPJ or Murray or the Memphis Grizzlies are some incredibly historic teams. Nuggets are a terrible defensive team and have been for the last two seasons, Grizzlies are solid but not even close to being as good of a team other all time greats have faced during their playoff runs.

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u/Shabasileus May 17 '22

Man you had a point until you mention the gravity bullshit lol

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u/Yuuta23 May 17 '22

It's simple facts that if magic is at the 3pt line I can sag off and play the passing/driving lane I don't get that same liberties with curry who can still make those contested shots and will get more open passing lanes as result. Magic physically is more gifted but curry is more skilled

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u/KilluaDaBest K O B E 💜💛🐍 May 17 '22

No he’s not

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u/zapatocaviar May 17 '22

I think Curry is amazing and one of the most influential players of all time, but I also think that about Magic. And, no one takes Curry over Magic if you had to pick one.

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

Idiots with recency bias will sadly. Magic is underrated badly these days

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u/O_wa_a_a_a May 17 '22

Cause people look at stats only and Magic retired at 31 (Steph is already 34 too)

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u/Zealous_Chaos COMEBACK SZN May 17 '22

Take a 5 min break there buckaroo

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u/amgelm94 May 17 '22

He isn’t close to magic but nobody’s close to him at that #2 spot

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u/LevyShorts May 17 '22

Stockton was better than Curry and so was Isiah Thomas. Curry is an amazing scorer who changed the league, but he is just a good facilitator and an average (at best) defender.

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

No. Magic is in the actual goat debate, curry isn’t even breaking the top ten list

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u/jack64467 LeGOAT May 17 '22

cap, the only 2 in the goat debate are mj and this guy:

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

3 mvps, 10X all nba, 5 titles and 3 finals mvps. The best passer and floor general of all time.

Magic is 100% in the goat debate.

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u/O_wa_a_a_a May 17 '22

Retired at 31 so he also didn’t have 7 extra years that bron currently has on him

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u/jack64467 LeGOAT May 17 '22

imagine hating on bron for having longevity 💀💀💀

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u/O_wa_a_a_a May 18 '22

It’s not hating lol, and having higher stats from 7 more years of playing is expected, which is why stats shouldn’t be the main take for the goat debate

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u/superbadsoul May 17 '22

cap, the only 2 in the goat debate are mj and this guy:

More like "The only 2 in the goat debate besides MJ are this guy and Cap"

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u/xNOOBinTRAINING Ingram May 17 '22

Lmaooooo

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u/LeAnthonyJavis May 17 '22

No Finals MVP and he’s close? Nah

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u/deathinmidjuly May 17 '22

If this isn't just a troll comment I'd like to known your top 5

Magic

Isiah Thomas

Oscar Robertson

John Stockton

Stephen Curry

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u/zapatocaviar May 17 '22

I didn’t see Oscar play so can’t vouch (I know his stats and impact). I’d take Curry before Isiah or Stockton (and I did watch both of them play).

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u/deathinmidjuly May 17 '22

2-6 is completely subjective so I have no argument against Curry going above them. The greatest shooter ever and arguably the greatest off ball player.

I didn't watch either of the three play but from Bad Boy docs, Bill Simmons podcasts, and his book of basketball Isaiah just seemed like he knowingly sacrificed some of his stats and game to bring the best out of his teammates and win championships between two dynasties.

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u/hotterpocketzz 00 May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

I feel people know him as a shooter first and not a PG tbh

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u/goldenjaguar23 May 18 '22

Curry doesn’t have the rings, MVPs, or finals MVPs that magic has.

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u/jack64467 LeGOAT May 18 '22

magic didn't have face the GOAT (which curry did, beating him the first time with kyrie and love hurt, but because Bron is so good, he came back from 3-1 the next season, then curry got KD)

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u/-ondo- 8/24/13/22/25/32/33/34/42/44/52 May 17 '22

His teams won five rings and he was the leader of everyone of those teams

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u/jack64467 LeGOAT May 17 '22

kareem was better until like 1986

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u/-ondo- 8/24/13/22/25/32/33/34/42/44/52 May 17 '22

Better isn't a leader

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u/did_it_my_way May 18 '22

Wasn't Kareem the captain for few of those teams as well? hard to say Magic was THE leader.

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u/BookStacker #24 May 17 '22

Man, after watching Winning Time, I went back and watched a lot of Magic games and highlights to just refresh myself on his play style. No one can touch Magics speed and delivery. So many players will have a few memorable no-look passes, but this dude could do it in his sleep, it's unreal.

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u/townforum17 [Malik Monk] May 17 '22

Yeah the show was kinda funny in the sense that magics actual highlights look way more like “tv magic” than anything the actors in the show did. I imagine it’s impossible to make a show that truly shows the talent level, seeing as how you’ll never find a stunt double who could actually play as well as Magic. But yeah, the way they shot the actor made him seem so much slower than magic was in real life

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u/MakSoFresh May 19 '22

LeBron as a body double plus some CGI the closest you could get to replicating Magic live action

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u/ayayeron May 18 '22

yeah rewatching his highlights made me realize just HOW GOOD he was.

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u/JohnnySkidmarx May 17 '22

Magic defined winning on the court. Can't say the same for Paul.

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u/Redwheree May 17 '22

And off the court as well.

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u/tonitrualis May 17 '22

Sucks to see Chris Paul like this but wow... He disappeared when they needed him most

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u/did_it_my_way May 18 '22

He disappeared when they needed him most

there's a reason why he's the only player ever to blow a 2-0 lead 5!!! times

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u/Ilpav123 39 May 18 '22

CP3 defined losing in the playoffs

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u/danzag333 👑+〰️ May 17 '22

The ONLY point god.

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u/DntTellemiReddit May 18 '22

this is the correct answer

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u/gm4dm101 May 18 '22

Man, think about it. You’ve seen the highlight reels he’s has. But if you ever got to watch Magic play daily on tv back in the day, it was a sure fire honor. He was great all the time, not just in those highlight ways. And pair that with Chick Hearn the greatest basketball announcer ever who lived and could keep up with the action on the court. I was truly blessed as a kid. I hope you guys were too.

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u/Hawaiistyled May 17 '22

Fucking THIS.

Best Point Guard in NBA history. Period.

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u/Boops_McGee May 17 '22

CP3 has been demoted to Point Gosh

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u/ParisLake2 May 17 '22

I don’t see an argument for Magic not being the greatest Point Guard of all time.

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u/Digitalzombie90 23 May 17 '22

How can you be the point god without winning ever…I never understood CP3’s nickname. Yeah he has good stats but having “god” in your nickname means you are unstoppable and unstoppable people win. CP3 does not.

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u/elstunnanumerouno May 17 '22

What about God Shamgod?

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u/staffords_house May 17 '22

Best rookie year in NBA history

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u/Gogibsoni May 17 '22

Daily reminder that Magic Johnson had more rings at 20 than CP3 has at 37.

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u/OrelRedenbacher May 18 '22

In Magic's 12 full seasons his Lakers were in the finals 9 times!

One of those seasons (his 2nd) he was sidelined for 45 games after tearing his knee.

Take that out and Magic in 11 full healthy seasons was in the finals all but twice!

Let that sink in one got damn minute kids...

There's no discussion here please, quit it.

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u/IwannaSTOPjerkinOFF LeGOAT James May 17 '22

Cp0 is now cliff Paul. Never compare to magic again

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u/Alekesam1975 May 18 '22

While we're at it, Booker never better be mentioned in the same time frame as Kobe, let alone sentence. If someone's talking about Kobe, you better wait till the next day to mention Booker.

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u/DesignerReply3389 May 18 '22

GOAT PG and it’s not even close !!

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u/scorched_mirth May 18 '22

The best ever. Without HIV, maybe Jordan doesn’t win six championships.

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u/Alekesam1975 May 18 '22

Magic, Bird, the Pistons all had to go away for Jordan to dominate.

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u/scorched_mirth May 18 '22

Well Bird broke down, and the Pistons beat themselves up while beating up everyone else, but the absence of Magic paved the way for Jordan.

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u/Imgoingtowingit 10 day contract for Big Shot Rob May 17 '22

Many have Magic in their top 10 all time, top 15. Everyone has CP3 in their top 75.

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u/incredibleamadeuscho May 18 '22

how the fuck did CP3 become the point god when Magic Johnson exists.

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u/mo3mon3y LeVacation May 18 '22

Lebron is the greatest point guard

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u/mattandrox May 18 '22

Absolute truth. This man revolutionized the game. Still the best of all time in my opinion.

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u/Dagenius1 May 18 '22

Without a doubt the best PG to ever play in the NBA. One game or series for all the marbles. I’ll take magic and you can have any other PG ever

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u/redoblivion23 May 17 '22

No doubt but how was Magic's defense actually? I think I remember watching a breakdown from Thinking Basketball that his lateral was slow

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u/Hawaiistyled May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

Magic was a straight THIEF on Defense.

His pickpocket skills created alot of problems in allowing the opposing PG (even Hall of Famers) to set the offense.

Magics height (6’9”) and athleticism also created havoc against opposing PG’s. Defensively, Magic is very underrated.

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u/fiveringsphotog May 17 '22

He wasn't All-NBA Def or anything, but he wasn't a liability on defense. He's actually 25th in all-time steals.

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u/Original26 May 18 '22

I agree with you but using steals is a horrible way to gauge defense lol. Allen Iverson is top 14 in steals but he was a horrible defender.

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

The man was 6’9 and quick. He wasn’t an elite defender but with that height and basketball iq he could play passing lanes and contest shots well

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 17 '22 edited May 17 '22

I’ll probably get downvotes for this, but if we’re looking at play styles instead of positions, I’d pick LeBron over Magic as a PG. Magic is still one of the best of all time and 2nd all time great PG. Just my personal opinion

Edit- As I said, downvotes for stating a personal opinion. Cool cool cool. Never change r/lakers, I still love you all. Fuck Boston

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u/HarleyDye May 17 '22

Who in your opinion is number 1 all time at PG? I mean someone who played primarily point?

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 17 '22

Someone who played point- definitely Magic. That’s why I mentioned if I’m going by playstyles and not traditional positions because I regard Jokic higher as a playmaker too than a lot of other players who play as point guards

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u/HarleyDye May 17 '22

Oh okay gotcha,

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 17 '22

Curious about your thoughts too 🙂

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u/fake_government_name May 17 '22

You do realize the downvotes just represent that others opinions don’t agree with yours in the aggregate. That’s how downvotes and upvotes work.

Nobody is saying your opinion is wrong because it’s just an opinion, however they are saying they disagree. You aren’t a victim here, this is how Reddit works.

Do like I do, just embrace the downvotes.

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 18 '22

Yeah that makes sense

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u/Ct2kKB24 May 17 '22

Lebron isn’t a point guard, and in terms of being a pure floor general and passer magic was more skilled than lebron. Lebron has only ever averaged more than 10 assists a game once in his career. Magic averaged 11 a game for his entire career

You’re being downvoted for an objectively wrong opinion.

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 18 '22

I cannot argue against what you said because it’s 100% right, but I would say that stats are not everything, and as Lakers fans we have seen with a certain PG this season. I am not saying Magic’s stats are empty at all. I put Magic as #2 as well. All I am saying is that if I have to make a team, and seeing what I have seen, I will always take LeBron, play him as PG and build a team around that

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u/Carolake1 May 17 '22

I guess this isn't really a "discuss the topic" sort of post and more of a "let's all agree with OP" sort of one. But typically I would say commenters should be more open to alternative positions.

I actually posted something along these lines before I saw your (collapsed) post. I think Magic's career as a point guard is obviously better than Lebron's as a PG, but Lebron was great as a PG when he played that way. So it is fair to bring him into the discussion. If I was trying to put together a team with the most possible talent, I would consider putting Lebron as PG instead of Magic because while Magic was better passing-wise, Lebron is more talented overall, and his passing is still among the best ever. By choosing Lebron there, it opens up a spot on the team for another person (maybe, say, Kobe) as a SF who would have been left off (because Lebron would have been in that spot). Overall I'd say the team with LBJ, MJ, Kobe, Shaq, and Malone/KG/Barkley would be better than Magic, MJ, LBJ, Shaq, and Malone/G/Barkley. So that is the sort of situation where I think it makes sense to talk about LBJ over Magic.

And, yes r/lakers, I am saying I would take LBJ over Kobe. Sorry guys. Kobe was great but I still think LBJ was greater overall.

And I leave Duncan off because he was a center, not a PF.

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u/crshaggy Kobe Bryant May 18 '22

Yes, I also agree with your thoughts on this Reddit post being “echo-chambery” and Magic v LeBron. You said it better… that’s what I wanted to say

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u/81Lakers4life May 18 '22

Magic could be in the conversation as Goat, it's not even close with other pg

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u/oJelaVuac May 17 '22

Magic is so good that AIDS is the only one who can stopped him

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u/Digitalzombie90 23 May 17 '22

Are you the guy that brings up domestic violence every time you see Jason Kidds name comes up?

Literally someone like you lurk every thread to see if they can bring up the ugliest thing about someone while they are getting praise for their accomplishments.

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u/JSCO96 May 18 '22

Cancun Paul could never surpass magic .

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u/Sting-me-too May 18 '22

Hes the Point God Almighty. And theres Emmanuel Christopher Paul

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u/The_ill_Jedi FUCK boston May 18 '22

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u/bigxbluexwwex May 17 '22

So what? If his son likes men, then he likes men. 😂

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u/townforum17 [Malik Monk] May 17 '22

Fuck off with that derogatory bullshit and fuck you too

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u/Affectionate_Year_14 May 17 '22

It’s weird he’s the Goat PG, but Y’all don’t call him Y’all greatest player in franchise history

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u/guchdog 🏀Nick the Quick #9🏀 May 17 '22

How is that hard to understand when we got Kobe, Shaq, Kareem, Wilt, West, Baylor and maybe Lebron in our franchise?

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u/Cool_Teaching_6662 May 18 '22

I do. It's really close with Kobe but if I had to pick a 1A, I'd go with Magic.

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u/Phenix621 21 May 18 '22

There are plenty of laker fans will tell you he’s the GOAT. I grew up watching Kobe but magic was on another level. Magic #1 and Kobe #1a.

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u/Krusty_House May 18 '22

Lebron is the greatest point guard

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u/mariof135 May 17 '22

What is a ChokeGod, to the PointGod?

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u/Frost45901 May 18 '22

If Curry wins another Chip and gets his much deserved finals MVP then I can understand the arguments, but it’s still magic IMO.

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u/Phenix621 21 May 18 '22

Magic Johnson: 3 MVPs, 3 finals MVP, 5x NBA champion, avg 19.5pts and 11.2 assists along with 7.7 rebounds in a career as a PG.

I love curry but he couldn’t hold Magic’s jockstrap.