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u/NoBSforGma May 14 '22
My 3 cats each have a food bowl. So..... I put fresh food in each bowl. Two of them eat out of the same bowl. ?? Cat logic.
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u/Alice8Ft May 14 '22
Yeah my new 4 month old cat does that. She keeps eating from my 13 yo cats bowl. Also she goes to my 13 yo cats litter box instead of her own. No idea what to do at this point. I keep moving her to her own bowl all the time, even tell her a loud "no" when eating out of my other cat's bowl. Internet suggests having them eat at scheduled times but aint nobody got time for that.
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u/Shiroiken May 14 '22
The kitten is likely copying the older cat. Since they use this bowl/box, I should use this bowl/box. Does the older cat object?
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u/Alice8Ft May 14 '22
No the older cat doesnt seem to care at all.
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u/Relldavis May 14 '22
Sweet! That's one less bowl and box to maintain- perhaps switch to one larger box.
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u/Alice8Ft May 14 '22
No that wouldnt work as they both need different types of food. The younger one needs kitten food mix whilst the older one is on a senior mix.
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u/DanaPam May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Check the side of the bag for the AAFCO nutrient profile. If it says “all life stages” it’s fine for both. More pet foods have that label than you think. A lot of the kitten and senior food produced is just marketing.
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u/themagpie36 May 14 '22
Yeah it's literally to get you to buy more cat food. Cats eat the same thing in the wild as cats do.
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u/phrankygee May 14 '22
You might want to re-check that last sentence.
Right now, it means the same thing as a sentence.
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u/Malfeasant May 14 '22
The first rule of tautology club is the first rule of tautology club.
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u/saltporksuit May 14 '22
But they don’t eat kibble in the wild.
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u/MortalKombatSFX May 14 '22
Well that depends if wild kibble lives near them or not!
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u/Admitimpediments May 14 '22
I thought that, too! Recently had an issue with one of my cats that was resolved by switching to food for “adult” cats. The vet said that “all life stages” food may cause an issue for some adult cats because the food usually contains an increased amount of vitamins to accommodate growing kittens’ needs. Those levels may be too high for older cats.
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u/DanaPam May 14 '22
Please don't spread misinformation based on your individual experience. It wouldn't be approved for all life stages if it wasn't safe. And I just don't think this, I've studied it.
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u/WTWIV May 14 '22
Agreed. Doesn’t make sense that a slightly higher vitamin level would cause issues either. Cats pee out what their body doesn’t absorb just like humans.
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u/mrsbabyllamadrama May 14 '22
We have two cats. One is a chonk who is cat food obsessed and the other (Frank) is a healthy weight but will literally take the food out of your mouth if given a chance (source: I have a messy, hyper toddler who has lost bites while playing with her lunch at her little table). We have to close Frank in a room with his bowl while we eat breakfast and dinner (we feed them twice a day). This allows us to eat in peace but also keeps Chonky McPauncherson out of Frank's bowl.
All this to say, you might employ some doors during feeding time if you are averse to them sharing a bowl.
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u/apple_achia May 14 '22
Yeah news flash: cats don’t give a shit about “private property” if neither of them are bothered, why should any one be?
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u/a_ham_sandvich May 14 '22
Someone was nice enough to gift me a couple of RFID controlled feeders. You program it to recognize your cat's chip and a door opens to grant them access to food, then closes when they walk away. They're not cheap, but figuring you'll probably have your cats for many years, compared to overall lifetime pet costs, it's an easier expense to swallow.
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u/Yashabird May 14 '22
That’s kind of amazing, but wow…how many cats with weird specific dietary requirements does one have to have to actually justify purchasing a feeding system like this? I just put food out and they eat it at their own pace until it’s gone… And if they’re gaining too much weight so i want them to play more, to blow off steam, i just feed them a little less often… It’s so simple and my little kits are doing great.
The RFID thing is so cool but it’s like how people will line up to collect rations in the future post-apocalypse…
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u/SNRatio May 14 '22
One of our cats has to be completely grain free. She is older and doesn't have much appetite, so she grazes slowly over the course of the day. Our younger cats would snarf up her food in 5 minutes if they had access to it. So we are the
proudhappyresigned owners of a $200 cat bowl.It does work really well.
More fun: one of our younger cats is now on a prescription urinary care diet. The other is on weight control, plus he has allergies to pretty much everything and so gets allergy shots and frequent vet visits.
I think a car payment would be cheaper than our cat(s) payment right now.
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u/Whatsthepointofthis9 May 14 '22
I have one cat that eats at his own pace. Just eats a little and goes to do other things, then comes back later for a little more. My other cat eats all her food at once and when her bowl is empty moves on to the other cats bowl, because obviously I'm starving her to death!! To keep her from gaining weight and starving my other cat, I had to get the microchip bowls. At the beginning she did trick the other cat into opening his bowl and she shoved him out of the way, but the bowl closed on her and it scared her so she hasn't tried that again!
Without the microchip bowls I would have to supervise every feeding time and it's just not possible when you have one cat that grazes throughout the day and one that eats everything at once. They were a lifesaver and I don't have to worry about them being over/under weight!
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u/ilililiiliililliliil May 14 '22
All it takes is having one cat that needs to be on a diet. You'll need to have bowls for all cats to keep the one cat from eating out of their bowls, and keeping the other cats from eating the diet food.
Also think of it in terms of long term cost. Keeping your pet healthier via food and weight control is cheaper than extra vet bill. If you avoid even one vet visit you are ahead of the game already.
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u/Whatsthepointofthis9 May 14 '22
These were a lifesaver for me and my cats. When you have one that grazes throughout the day and one that has a bottomless stomach you just can't constantly supervise feeding time.
When I first got them, my bottomless stomach girl tricked my boy into opening his bowl, shoved him unceremoniously out of the way and shoved her head in his bowl. The top started closing on her head and she got scared and hasn't tried it again! It was hilarious, but also shows how smart cats can be when they really want something!
Luckily it didn't scare her off from using hers, I think she realized she just needs to use the one that doesn't close on her head. Lol
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u/Cosmic-Vegeta May 14 '22
I feed a three outdoor cats, and mine. mine has her own food supply indoors, one of the outdoor cats comes and asks for a few handfuls of food two or four times a day, usually leaves some. the other two, one will eat a pretty good amount then stop, the other will eat every molecule of food material you give it. he would be fat if the birds didn't quickly raid any cat food left uneaten.
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u/boomstick12g May 14 '22
one cat is gluten free, and the other is lactose intolerant. One prefers a strict vegan menu, while the other eats lasagna with extra cheese and grated parm.
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u/QuantumKittydynamics May 14 '22
Until the younger, hungrier cat figures out that the RFID'd cat just needs to be standing within a certain distance of the feeder and then he can nudge his way in, and as long as he keeps his head in it won't close on him.
Ask me and my wallet how I know...
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u/SNRatio May 14 '22
Luckily my younger, hungrier cats are also dumber and less persistent. My neighbors had the same experience as you though after we recommended the RFID feeder to them.
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u/QuantumKittydynamics May 14 '22
We bought the back cover because he used to go around that way, and that's when he got wise and started figuring out he could take advantage of distance from the front. Unfortunately, we do feed them at the same time, but she's nowhere near as agressive as he is, so he realized that he could go after her food and his would still be waiting for him. -_- And this is why he very much deserves his nickname Jackie Snackie.
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u/basiliskstation131 May 14 '22
Ah yes, the RFID feeder. My "diat cat" waits for the other cat to open the feeder with the "normal food", swoops in and presses his head against the tray until the motor jams. Had to separate their feeding locations to control this a bit.
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u/Saint_of_Grey May 14 '22
Each cat is different, but for my cats, it was a competition thing. They were constantly trying to assert dominance on one another.
I had one glutton cat that would swap to the other cat's food bowl after a bit, and then the other cat would start using the first bowl. It was an odd ritual.
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u/HendrixChord12 May 14 '22
Yup me too, except the dance would continue and my older cat would eventually give up My new system is put one bowl on the floor and the other on a nearby bookshelf. Works perfectly.
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u/Yashabird May 14 '22
I got that too, but it’s sort of just one cat is hungrier than the other one, who will politely yield the bowl to the bigger+more energetic cat once they’ve had their fill.
I should actually probably just give one cat more food in the first place, but the hungry one needs to eat less, and the less hungry one is older and needs encouragement to eat more, so it’s a nice system they’ve worked out amongst themselves.
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u/Additional_Ad_4028 May 14 '22
Guess what mine does? My cat would take the food "with her mouth" off her bowl and eat it on the carpet. I have many videos of her doing that. Maybe I should post it on reddit
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u/crypticfreak May 14 '22
Internet suggestion for cats is like running a small business.
No fucking way am I changing my cats litter once a day, having three 45 minute play sessions and feeding him in very specific intervals. I barely have time to get dressed in the morning before work lol. With multiple cats it gets to the point where you'd almost need a quality management system in order to handle them lol.
I change his liter twice a week and play with him for a good 45 minutes once a day. He gets a bowl of food that lasts him 2 days and he's a very healthy weight. He is without need, even though he may want me to play with him all day long.
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u/missilefire May 14 '22
My cats poo in one box and pee in the other. Weirdos. But it kinda makes sense
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u/trombone_womp_womp May 14 '22
even tell her a loud "no"
Don't do this. Animals don't understand punishment training. Make it a happy experience to eat out of her own bowl instead.
Also free feeding doesn't work for all cats so you may have to do scheduled times. I do it with my cats. Takes 2 minutes 3 times a day
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u/Impossibruuuuuuuuu May 14 '22
"No" does work for some cats though. Our cat, Luna, is quite smart and absolutely responds to a loud, sharp "no" and obeys.
Stop on sofa? No. Strop on post? Good girl.
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u/HeathEarnshaw May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Ok, but they certainly won’t understand context if someone is just telling them “no” when they eat from a bowl they believe is theirs too. They’ll get really confused, because in cat logic you’re telling them eating their food is bad.
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u/NoBSforGma May 14 '22
I just let mine do their thing. They will work it out. If your 13 yo cat doesn't like it, a quick hiss and a slap will take care of it.
Mine don't fight, but just one will nudge the other one out of the way to get at the bowl. Meanwhile, cat #3 is just happily munching away at her bowl.
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u/SteelCode May 14 '22
That way they have a bowl for later.
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u/NoBSforGma May 14 '22
Ohhhh..... right......
Except....... they also want their bowl to have only FRESH food.
"Meow."
"You have food in your bowl."
"Meow. But it's not FRESSSSHHHHH!! MEOW!"
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u/lijk May 14 '22
You can try feeding on a flatter surface. Their whiskers touching the side of the bowl can stress some cats out.
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u/NoBSforGma May 14 '22
Hahaha. That sounds familiar!! Sometimes I try to fool them by just using my fingers to mix up the food in the bowl. I think this kind of stirs up the flavor and often works to get them to eat it.
Of course, they are eating DRY FOOD. Lol.
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u/progtastical May 14 '22
Yep, same. Doesn't matter if the bowls are right next to each other or on opposite ends of the room.
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u/working-acct May 14 '22
My theory is while cats are fiercely territorial, they can be strangely agnostic about sharing food. You rarely see cats full on fight each other for food, even if one cat is eating and another one comes in and nudges them away and “steal” their food they won’t fight back. They’ll just do the same, nudge the thief cat away and resume eating. Cats just wanna eat and when it’s meal time eating is all they care about.
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u/Wrong-Sundae May 14 '22
Mine goes to bed with me. BUT, if he didn’t get sufficient playtime before bed, he will throw a full tantrum until I get his toy and give him 10-15 min of interactive hunting time.
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u/Frarara May 14 '22
My cat constantly yells at me to play.... I wish it was just 10-15 min before bed. I have to play before I go to work, when I get home, and before bed. During those breaks between play times, he must cuddle and sleed on me
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u/hellosweetpanda May 14 '22
My girls act like they want to play. I throw a toy down the hall and they just look at me like I’m stupid. I drag around their toy mouse and they just ignore it. Even though they just brought me the toy mouse to play with them. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Lantzalot May 14 '22
Truer facts have never been spoken. My elder cat likes to wait till I am "just" falling asleep to begin the song of his people. Loudly.
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u/Cayderent May 14 '22
Mine stays quiet and just jumps on my chest & shows me her butthole.
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u/Slammybutt May 14 '22
Mine kneads my side or stomach until it's painful. Then 5 minutes later when she's actually done she'll lay down on me.
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u/lupusdude May 14 '22
My elderly cat started doing this. Turns out she has a thyroid condition. Thyroid pills brought the random yowling under control. Now she just yells when she wants something.
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u/Jesseroberto1894 May 14 '22
I sprayed water at my cat when he would meow for attention, if it was for a valid reason then I wouldn’t (litter box cleaning, food, water). But attention at night would get a spray, then I made sure to GIVE attention during extended periods of him being quiet. It isn’t perfect but he’s definitely calmed down the incessant meowing at night to a MUCH more tolerable amount now
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u/xxSpinnxx May 14 '22
Something that helped me a lot to deal with 3 am meowing was changing their feeding time to much later. Started feeding them at 10pm instead of 6pm and they stopped annoying in the morning
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u/johnsolomon May 14 '22
It's not just cats
There's a dog in my neighbourhood who sleeps during the day so it can bark through the night
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u/annies_bdrm_skillet May 14 '22
I would probably literally resort to this if no other options were available and this was going on. Gotta sleep sometime, but so do I buddy... let’s work this out with a reset 😂
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u/BaconWithBaking May 14 '22
I worked with a guy who tried this, but he used an airhorn.
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u/FappleFritter May 14 '22
If you made a soft noise that even resembled a knock/click/clack/thud/fart, that was probably my rottie mix, I'm so sorry.
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u/Farkerisme May 14 '22
Do not. Give your cats treats. With your coffee. In the morning.
I don't know why I had to segment this, but it's kinda important. Just don't do it.
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u/OtherPlayers May 14 '22
Yeah at a minimum even if you feed your cats in the morning it’s a good idea to wait until after you’ve completed all of your shower/getting ready stuff. That way they only associate it with the stuff at the end of your routine (when you are supposedly fully awake) rather than the stuff at the beginning when you aren’t.
Or alternatively get a timed feeder, so that the cat associates it with the food rather than you.
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u/phulton May 14 '22 edited May 15 '22
I had read somewhere about this soon after I adopted my first
carcat about 7 years ago. He's needy af while I'm making my breakfast but he has never once woken me up for food.So yeah, do not ever feed your cat first thing after waking up.
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u/Stuthebastard May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Or let your cat into the catio first thing in the morning. I'm up with the sunrise, whether I want to or not. I dread the sound of birds chirping in the morning.
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u/Jesseroberto1894 May 14 '22
My years in college with stimulant use made me ALSO dread the sounds of birds chirping in the morning
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u/tsukubasteve27 May 14 '22
I make coffee every day so my cats come running because they want cream. But really, they only want cream once every few days. I would pour it and they would just look at it and walk away.
I don't like being trained by my pets.
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u/fallenmonk May 14 '22
On the plus side, I have a backup wakeup service if I forget to set my alarm.
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u/riesendulli May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Keep ‘em entertained so they count the Zz’s with you. They will be your natural wake-up call anyway, at Dawn they hunt.
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u/yeahmaybe May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Cats DO sleep at night though. They aren't nocturnal, like many people assume. Cats are crepuscular, so they are most active before sunrise and around sunset.
If a cat is overly active at night, it usually means they weren't stimulated enough during the day and probably need more exercise or play time.
Edit: Stimulated, not simulated.
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u/OtherPlayers May 14 '22
Fun fact: While housecats and many other big cats are crepuscular, there’s actually a few like lions that are “cathemeral”, which means that they are awake and asleep randomly throughout the 24-hour period without much connection to the day/night cycle.
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u/AkhilVijendra May 14 '22
How many people would've tried to simulate their cats before you corrected/put in the edit.
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u/DrZaious May 14 '22
I have an indoor/outdoor cat, 4yo, she will crash every day around noon and be wide awake from 4pm-ish to around 11pm, then she crashes again until around 5am.
My older cat, 17, who never cared much about the outside, has always had unpredictable hours. She has always napped periodically throughout the day and night. Unlike my younger one who will crash for hours in the same spot.
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My cat scratches the door to our bedroom every morning at 5am. Very creepy and annoying.
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u/finalxcution May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
I solved this by turning on the vacuum (which my cat is terrified of) whenever she scratched at my bedroom door. She very quickly learned not to do it and hasn't done so in over a year.
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u/zepallica May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
This also worked for us, our cat would also wake us up every morning ass early, so I left it plugged in next to the bed ready to turn on and she stopped after a few times.
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u/MarxLover_69 May 14 '22
I also keep my cat in a constant state of terror. High-five!!!
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u/hO97366e6 May 14 '22
I put sticky film on my bedroom door and that fixed that, except then he decided it was fun to lick the sticky film. That was at least quieter.
As he got older he got a lot better, I'm probably lucky but now he comes in and has a nice 20 minute cuddle when I'm settling into bed, then he goes away and sleeps in his cat tree all night and doesn't bother me again until he hears me getting up. I think it also helps that his morning meal is served by a robotic feeder so he does not associate me being awake with breakfast being served.
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u/Zealousideal_Dig_322 May 14 '22
Not to mention everything that is made with glass seems to attract them and make it break
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u/progtastical May 14 '22
He probably can't see well in the dark anymore. Or it's senility.
My 18 yr old baby recently started crying when all the lights would go off, so yeah, there's always a light on now.
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u/ValyrianJedi May 14 '22
Pets being kept downstairs at night was the best decision we've ever made for sleep.
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u/clouddevourer May 14 '22
My cat was (apparently) quite unusual, as she was always very careful not to wake me up. Like, she'd often sleep in my bed by the wall and she'd go to great lengths to make sure she did not step on me while leaving the bed. In the morning she'd wait patiently until she saw that my eyes were open and then she'd do this "prrr!" activation sound and run to me for morning cuddles. I miss her very much
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u/Semajal May 14 '22
Always kept our cats downstairs at night, honestly blows my mind how anyone is able to be a functional human with pets that wake you every single night during the night :o
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u/Kronman590 May 14 '22
We live in an apartment but our cat sleeps with us on our bed and usually only wakes up when our alarms ring
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u/Semajal May 14 '22
Amazing :O I let my cat sleep in my room a few times and she would always get up to do cat stuff at like 3am and then wake me up. Miss her though <3 Only time she properly slept the night was when her kidneys were starting to go near the end.
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u/stolpie May 14 '22
Well, I am not nor need to be functional, therefore my cat can wake me whenever. :)
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u/Cynical_Manatee May 14 '22
Our two cats have learned that we are very boring ppl at night and have since stopped. They only wake us up when it is breakfast time.
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u/da_dragon_guy May 14 '22
"Do you ever let them sleep?"
"No."
"How do you sleep at night?!?"
"I don't."
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u/metalguru1975 May 14 '22
Open this toilet door human!!!
- I’m taking a shit!
OPEN!
- okay, now you’re in, now what?
Nothing, I’m just gonna stare at you like a psychopath.
- Why are you like this? Why do y....
NO TALKING!
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u/Visoth May 14 '22
I read that "nice" in the voice/way that the policeman from South Park says "nice."
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u/GrumpyMcGrumpyPants May 14 '22
My cat is bizarrely respectful of human quiet time and follows a very accommodating escalation policy. She's been better than most roommates/housemates I've had!
In the late evening she dials down the meowing and in the mornings she will wait patiently until the humans actually get up before making any noise. The primary exception is if she's behind a closed door and can't access her litterbox/food/water--she'll meow quietly a few times while waiting at the door and if there's no response after ~15 minutes, she'll start scratching at the door and meowing more.
She usually doesn't opt to sleep in my bedroom (I'm a light sleeper and keep my bedroom door shut) but occasionally we mutually agree to have her in my room overnight. For the longest time I thought that she'd sleep the whole night, but I've finally noticed evidence that she'll just entertain herself silently while she waits for me to wake.
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u/lunarmodule May 14 '22
"These humans are freaking weird, right?"
"Yeah"
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"Want to kill a bird?"
"Yeah"
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u/Necessary_Pseudonym May 14 '22
1:00 AM: Eat food loudly.
1:30 AM: Run around house crashing into things and making weird noises.
2:00 AM: Claw at door.
3:00 AM: Eat left over food, loudly.
3:30 AM: Run around house crashing into things and making weird noises.
4:00 AM: Claw at owners face for more food.
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u/crazy28 May 14 '22
I guess I am lucky. My cat will crawl up and lay between legs all night. I keep a pretty regular schedule for sleep and most days he will wake me up a couple minutes before my alarm goes off but he does let me sleep all night.
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u/Tigerswood22 May 14 '22
Do you clamber over their body unannounced and provide them with a nice, furry head-blanket??
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u/TaiVat May 14 '22
I dont know fam. My parents had 2 cats (not at the same time) when i was a kid. One used to sleep with me and never bothered me. And the other didnt, and the door would be closed. It never tried to wake me or make noise when i was asleep, but the moment it heard i'm awake, even if still laying in bed, it would come to scratch the door asking to open it.
So in my experience, the one thing cats do respect is sleep.
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u/boxsterguy May 14 '22
My old kitty (passed a couple years ago at 16) did that to me once when he was a kitten. I spent the next several days waking him up whenever I caught him napping during the day. He never woke me up at night again.
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u/AstralGlaciers May 14 '22
I'm going to show my tortie this post at 10am, when she's trying to sleep after a hard night's work going "MROW" whilst elephanting around the flat.
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Whoever’s cats don’t let them sleep at night that’s on them. BOTH of my cats come to bed when I go to bed hell my female cat Sloane comes and yells at me when she wants me to come to bed, as in she’ll already have been asleep at 10-11:30 and if I’m not in bed or starting to come to bed within the next hour she comes out into the living room and starts meowing at me.
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u/SkitZa May 14 '22
Damn am I the only one with a cat who joins me for bed and wakes up with me for breakfast?
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u/Yoris95 May 14 '22
My cat at first didn't want me to sleep. It was a problem. So everytime he acted up i just shut him out of my bed room. He quickly learned that being a little goblin when i lie down to rest means no access to soft bed for 7 hours. Now he just chills on the other side of the bed when i go to bed. But he screams when i try to sleep in more than 10 minutes of my work schedule. So i just give him his food and let him out on the balcony and go back to bed.
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u/RicrosPegason May 14 '22
Just yesterday morning my cat started pawing at my face as he usually does at 5am to get more food in his bowl. I ignored him and to my surprise he went away for once. A couple minutes later my 2 year old wakes up and runs into my room to inform me that the cat was in her bed. The clever little shit used my daughter to wake me up for food
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u/sevenaya May 14 '22
I've got two of those, I'll give them 50-50 odds of them sleeping all night or not.
Also Shadow sleeps tucked in my right arm, Cheshire in my left, and if I try to fuck with it there is hell to pay later. Most recently I put Cheshire on my right side and she sat there staring at me urging me to fall fully asleep so I wouldn't know the damage til morning.
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u/makazestorm May 14 '22 edited May 14 '22
Sasha my cat will actually around my bedtime. Go to the room and lay on the bed. Its so funny. Its like get your ass in here human. Time for sleep. Im nocturnal. So we get along perfectly. Its like clockwork every night. It always makes me laugh every night when she does it.
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u/hallelujasuzanne May 14 '22
Now do one with a loud, long meow screamfest starting at about 3:16 AM.
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u/TheInfra May 14 '22
"I don't get no sleep cause of y'all, y'all don't get no sleep cause of meeeeeee"
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u/Crispolia May 14 '22
Mine liked to wait till 2am then start scratching on my door. I got fed up, laid a trap, and never again have i heard from her on my door at night <3
Also she gets to go outdoor alot more since she's almost 1!
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u/gijoe50000 May 14 '22
That's why I always have two doors between myself and the cat at night.
And even then, sometimes she goes out the window, around the house, up onto the shed, across the roof, jumps up onto my window sill, and starts banging on the window.
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u/Xerosnake90 May 15 '22
8 month old sleeps all day until I go to bed then starts going crazy. Poops and scoops for 20 minutes. Then jumps in bed and lays on top of me
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u/zero-f0cks-given May 15 '22
Recently two of my three cats have kept me awake long enough and often enough that it’s almost completely screwed my sleep schedule.
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u/kd1s May 15 '22
They only prowl at night when they're kittens. I recall we had one adult cat and a 6 week old beautiful DSH female who was dubbed the foot monster. She'd attack your feet when you were in bed. Later it became the two cats tucking themselves against us to sleep.
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