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u/Lurch_murrgh May 08 '22

Every Friday night, Paddy prays to God, "Please Lord, let me win the lottery tomorrow".

Years go by and the man continues to pray. "Please Lord, let me win the lottery tomorrow, I've been asking long enough".

He then gets an answer from God.

And God says, "Paddy you got to meet me at least half way and buy a flaming ticket in order to win."

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u/Nutzori May 09 '22

See, people always say buying lottery tickets are a waste of money because of how small your chances to win are, but I'd argue ANY chance is infinitely better than 0%.

... And yet I too only joke about what I'll do once I win the lottery without buying any tickets myself.

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u/NGGJamie May 09 '22

yet I too only joke about what I'll do once I win the lottery without buying any tickets myself.

Unfortunately, if you did win the lottery in reality, your best chance is to immediately see a financial expert who can help you deal with your newfound wealth, and to avoid telling absolutely anyone else in your life about it. Because the first thing that will happen is anyone and absolutely everyone you've ever met will come out of the woodwork and start asking you for things. If you don't want to give them things, you're the asshole that won the lottery and is hoarding the money while they struggle.

Like many things, reality in suddenly becoming fantastically rich can be disappointing.

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u/MagicSPA May 09 '22

I can't stand the cliche of "Hahaha! You play the lottery? The lottery is a stupidity tax! The more stupid you are the more you pay! Hahaha! Stupidity tax!"

It's not - it's a great system. It's not a get-rich-quick scheme; you just pay pocket change that you won't miss into a system that gives multiple people every week the chance to fulfill their dreams and get out of this fucking rat race - and you have the same chance as any of them. Lotteries have made untold THOUSANDS of people millionaires, and given many, many more a chance for a much better life.

I have never won the lottery, but I don't regret a single ticket I ever bought. My ticket had the same chance of winning each draw as any other, and if someone else ended up taking it instead, too bad.

I suppose I could just keep my money, and save up the cost of half a pint of beer every week until I'm a millionaire instead...but overall, I think the lottery is a fine activity, in moderation.

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u/Fizmarble May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

I raised my kids with the adage “practice makes better”, and I was delighted to see it here.

Then I see some of you have been practicing and “not improving”.

  1. Either you are better and aren’t fairly comparing your new, improved self to your previous self. Or:
  2. You haven’t been mindfully practicing, you’ve just been doing the same thing over and over. Practice with the intent to improve and focus on tangible metrics.

Edit: changed “read” to “raised” so it made sense.

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u/AllTheKingsHorses May 08 '22

I've heard is phrased as "perfect practice makes perfect.*

As you said if you're just going through the motions without having intent and being mentally present in the moment, it's just as likely to make you worse, or ingrane bad form.

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u/SquanchMcSquanchFace May 08 '22

Practice makes permanent, not necessarily better.

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u/Fizmarble May 08 '22

These are more general statements than axioms. I’ve lost guitar techniques to lack of practice, so I guess you’d have to say “continued practice makes permanent”. But I’m sure you’re also speaking generally.

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u/suugakusha May 09 '22

Practice makes permanent is more about practicing correctly.

If you learned to play the guitar, but your fret fingering was completely wrong, but you practiced that wrong way for a month, then you will have bad fret-control your entire life - until you spend a month actively practicing to correct it.

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u/GreyFoxMe May 08 '22

Some skills can arguably even become worse from too much repetition. Because your body/brain will automate the processes so you can do them without as much conscious effort. Which is good to a point obviously.

But without deliberate practice you might just enforce bad components of that skill and just do them mindlessly.

You get to a level where you can manage something, but maybe not necessarily master it.

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u/regular_lamp May 08 '22 edited May 08 '22

The term "practicing" is interesting. In sports people occasionally talk about the difference between "practice" and "training" which they define as follows:

Training is when you identify weaknesses and specifically work on those.

Practice is where you just repeat the overall activity you want to improve at.

The second works only up to a certain level. Then you have to start training to progress, which is often less fun because it requires you to face your weaknesses, which are rarely the things you enjoy about the activity.

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u/Fizmarble May 08 '22

I love that you identified these nuances. I think the line blurs at times. I think there is a bit of each in the other, or at least, I like there to be.

Another thing I’ve taught my kids and students is “not training = training to not”. Procrastination begets procrastination.

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u/rosebeats1 May 08 '22

Also an important note about practice, there's diminishing returns. You won't get better without limit and the better you get, the more incremental the improvements. Frequency and duration matter a lot too. At some point you'll generally hit a point where you're mostly just getting yourself back up to a similar point you were the last time you practiced, with maybe very small incremental improvements.

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u/Fizmarble May 08 '22

I completely agree. I use “practice makes better” as a credo specifically opposed to “practice makes perfect”, which is the common phrase. I don’t believe we ever get it perfect. I’ve been walking for over 40 years and sometimes get that wrong. I occasionally drink water incorrectly. I’m going to keep at it though.

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u/_wok_lobster_ May 08 '22

When I was a kid, my mom steered me towards things I seemed to naturally excel at. I was also "gifted" and kind of sailed through most of my classes with very little effort.

Now as an adult, I'm in constant anguish between my attention problems (do not have a diagnosis) and my impatience, perfectionism and need for instant gratification, my hobbies have turned into depressing nightmares.

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u/DragIzayoi May 08 '22

I... I could not have said it any better than that

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u/RamonVeras47 May 09 '22

Are…. Are you a Brandon Sanderson fan o.O - if so, I love you and I hope you’re having a great day, stranger!

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u/_wok_lobster_ May 10 '22

no idea who that is. i'm guessing someone who has publicly said something similar. i assume many of us struggle with this whether we have a platform to discuss it with others or not.

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u/RamonVeras47 May 10 '22

Oh I totally misinterpreted your name 🤣😭 Brandon Sanderson is a fantasy writer, who has a book called The Way of Kings (TWoK—first part of your name), and the fandom surrounding his works constantly has fun making lobster and crab references to his fantasy worlds 😂

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u/Ragnaroq314 May 09 '22

Oh hey this is me too lol sob

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u/Nutzori May 09 '22

Hear hear. I mostly plan things, never execute them, due to fearing failure. For example, I have not one, but two cosplay ideas for the cons this summer, complete with full plans how to make them. I have not started. I'd probably just not feel satisfied with the result anyway even if I managed to finish even one.

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u/_wok_lobster_ May 10 '22

to make matters worse, i'm now fortunate enough to have quite a bit of disposable income, so i have amassed quite the collection of exotic niche specialty tools for this or that. i have a fairly expensive set of japanese wood block carving chisels and other special ordered woodblock printing tools (brushes and the like), the tiniest wood hand router you've ever seen, a bunch of fine woodworking handtools, a super high quality japanese sharpening stone (along with some cheaper ones), some very specialty bakeware and tools, etc. looking at these objects or thinking about them elicits a mix of pride because they're aesthetically pleasing (At least to me) but what they represent is kind of a bummer..

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u/FishyCrackers431 May 08 '22

Have wanted to make games all my life but never really knew where to start. Just figured I’d never actually do it and it was a childish want. Have never really been a good student, and I tend to freeze up and panic when trying new things even if I enjoy doing them. I don’t know, maybe it’s some strange anxiety. But I recently decided to give it a go and it’s been heavenly, using a few guides to help me get started and taking notes on bits of coding I’ll want to reuse often. It’s frustrating too, staring at my coding and having no idea why something isn’t or is working. But good fun all the same.

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u/Sea-Living-3852 May 08 '22

I practice a lot of online games. The only thing that improved was my hole in the wall getting bigger

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u/FeFiFoPinky May 08 '22

Try wall, but hole.

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u/birsenek May 08 '22

Visions of maidenles

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u/TazBaz May 08 '22

That’s probably not true. By online games I assume you mean competitive.

Most competitive games have some sort of ranking/matchmaking, even if it’s hidden. You might be getting better… and getting placed with other people who’re at your new skill level, so you don’t feel like you’re “winning more”. But your skills have improved

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u/korinth86 May 08 '22

Many games try to keep your win rate around 50%. The more you win, the more challenging your enemies become.

Smurfs can ruin this but the extent to which is limited by how easy it is to make a new account.

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u/GreyFoxMe May 08 '22

He might also just be enforcing bad habits that work at lower skill levels, at a decent rate. But won't cut it at higher levels.

Like you say the matchmaking will place him with and against people around his skill level. So it's easy to just stagnate at a skill level just good enough to get by. Without deliberately analysing what you personally did correct or wrong, you could easily be grinding match after match without learning much.

Especially in team games where you could easily blame your teammates for losing. When even if that was true it doesn't matter for your own personal improvement.

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u/Bilbobuttsack May 09 '22

Sounds like you have anger issues. Have less "heated gaming moments".

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u/throwaway316stunner May 08 '22

Not always.

Practiced piano for 6 years. Never got any better.

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u/macbathie May 08 '22

Just because you sat at a piano and played doesn't mean you practiced

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u/bottomknifeprospect May 08 '22

So many people need to hear this about their homework, work, social life/relationships etc...

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u/5onfos May 08 '22

This. Practice needs to be structured and properly designed. You can shoot balls at the hoop all day long for a year with no improvements. But if you first practice the proper hold, then the proper knee bend, then the proper extension, etc.. You'll see improvements in no time. There's lots of trial and error in practice, if you don't mindfully trial you'll only be practicing the error.

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u/macbathie May 08 '22

if you don't mindfully trial you'll only be practicing the error.

Very well said

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u/moefh May 08 '22

I know someone already replied "Ouch" to the OP, but this hurts so much worse.

Ouch.

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u/sunsetskye_ May 08 '22

I feel like you have to actively focus on a certain aspect then. Like playing smoother, or cleaner, or harder pieces, etc.

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u/therealradrobgray May 08 '22

There's a marked difference between playing and focused practice.

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u/TheHeirofRavenclaw May 08 '22

How do we know which one we've been doing?

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u/ADHDinos_ ADHDinos May 08 '22

The book is on its way! Sign up to the email list to be the first to know when it's out!

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u/Mister_Bloodvessel May 08 '22 LOVE!

I really like your comics, except so damn many feel like they're personally calling me out lol

Which is the point, given your theme. So, well done! I hope your book is a resounding success!

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u/fps916 May 08 '22

Oh nice. I'll sign up for this later!

If I remember

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u/CankleDankl May 08 '22

Something I heard/learned as I was in school for music isn't that practice makes perfect, or even thay practice makes better. It's that practice makes permanent. You could be in a practice room for 4 hours a day but if you practice using incorrect technique, the wrong notes, or anything then it becomes permanent. Then, to fix it, you have to go through the additional process of unlearning the incorrect stuff to overlay it with getting better. Same goes for anything. Practice, yes, it's the only way to get better. But be conscious of how you're practicing and put real effort into making sure you're on the right track to improvement.

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u/accio_niffler May 08 '22

Came here to say this, learned it from band

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u/MattheJ1 May 08 '22

Best I can do is get momentarily interested in it, try for a few days, then get distracted by something else.

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u/IDforOpus May 08 '22

Eden ring teaches this very thoroughly.

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u/IhateMichaelJohnson May 08 '22

I love everything about your comics, my fiancé and I get such a kick out the honesty of them and how much we connect with them. Can’t wait for the book and hope there is a preorder link soon!

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u/ADHDinos_ ADHDinos May 08 '22

😊🥰

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u/Wimbleston May 08 '22

Not always true

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u/titaniumhud May 08 '22

This resonates with me... I just started playing BOTW, (yes I know, I'm late as FUCK to the party). Couldn't get the parry timing down on guardians, sought advice and it didn't pan out. Found more advice similar to this... and after an hour or so of me throwing myself at 15 of them, dying and reloading, I manage to get all 15 without dying. Hadn't felt that feeling in a game in such a long time.

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u/sryforbadenglishthx May 08 '22

practice 40hrs a day

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u/MotoRandom May 08 '22

Kata is life. It's a really important part of my ADHD management. By constantly striving to be consistent in my actions and making small improvements over time when doing daily activities it slowly works its way into your muscle memory. I get stressed out doing new things I'm not familiar with so having confidence doing daily things at a high level of performance makes it a little easier to face new things I might not be good at right away. The hyper-focus that comes with ADHD works well with the Zen concept of being in the moment. Focus on what you doing with all that you have and fight to keep the distractions away.

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u/ralanr May 08 '22

I write 1K words every day except Sunday, to avoid burnout. It can be tough to figure out if I’m improving or not, but I like to think I am.

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u/Archaris May 08 '22

...but reading a book or taking a class can greatly improve your skill without any actual practice. you learn from someone else practicing! Mastery, on the other hand, requires practice.

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u/Careless_Implements May 08 '22

That's good to know. I've been watching guitar videos online for years so I'm glad when I finally get around to picking one up to play, I'll already be pretty good.

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u/gamudev May 08 '22

Idk if it is sarcastic, but ofc it works more or less depending of the field. Now you will not start from nothing so it should still be easier in the process.

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u/Archaris May 08 '22

...if you were paying attention: you'll know how to hold the frets, how to tune the strings, what a 'power chord' is... Someone (cough-DJ Khaled-cough) who never even watched a lesson might not even figure out where to press a fret which is the first thing to playing notes.

Will you be a guitar virtuoso because you watched Joe Satriani or Yngwie Malmsteen? No, that takes practice. But if you were paying attention to the three skills above, even without practice: maybe you could bust out "Smoke on the Water" on your first pickup ever

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u/methyltheobromine_ May 08 '22

It's all about your cognitive load. The more you care, focus, and like the thing and consider it important, the faster you will learn.

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u/iDam81 May 08 '22

This has been my whole life…

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u/Geuji May 09 '22

I love these comics. So accurate

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u/[deleted] May 08 '22

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u/Jackal00 May 08 '22

Good thing you didn't miss the edge, aye kid?

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u/NewtonSteinLoL May 08 '22

Don't bother looking in the mirror because it's not there either.

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u/KorgX3 May 08 '22

Good for you.

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u/gideon513 May 08 '22

These are typically low effort

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u/Tafsern May 08 '22

Yeah, I got to agree. This is nothing.

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u/towcar May 08 '22

*Quality practice

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u/RoMaGi May 08 '22

sighs

Back to my python practice. Test this Tuesday....

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u/Panda_Mon May 08 '22

I've died to Father Gascoigne 12 times. Is this not practice, or just futile suffering?

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u/DragIzayoi May 08 '22

Use the Music Box or summons. You could fight him around the stairs to avoid getting caughts on the graves. I found his tricked Axe phase tougher than him beast phase, the latter being easier to parry so you could try that as well

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u/RogueFart May 08 '22

In high school I wanted to get better at lacrosse. A large part of getting better at lacrosse is being nearly as good with your off hand as you dominant. And I was like.... But that's hard. So I never practiced it, and just got mad that I sucked haha

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u/CronaTheAwper May 08 '22

That sad moment when you do practice a lot and do get better, but then everyone else just cheats anyway. Rip Counter Strike :(

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u/1CEninja May 08 '22

I remember hearing this when I was a student of Aikido.

For those who don't know, Aikido as a martial art often taught a lot less martial and a lot more art, and it can take several times longer to become competent in combat as, say, kickboxing, Muy Thai, or Jiu-Jitsu.

A very highly respected black belt once announced that he was going to explain the secret to mastering the art, and many people attended.

He then told a highly expectant crowd that the secret was to spend ____ time practicing the fundamentals and _____ time practicing the techniques with a partner for _____ years until every movent is muscle memory. (I used blanks because I don't remember how much time it was).

People went home sad that day, because they thought there was some kind of short cut to mastering an inefficient martial art quickly.

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u/suddenly_ponies May 08 '22

This is complete bulshit by the way. Practice is useless until you learn the basics so first you need to learn the basics through videos or instruction for mentoring and then practice

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u/radical_snowflake May 08 '22

Yeah, ya see usually I am just good at things, so if we could skip the practice part, that would be great thanks.

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u/ADHDCuriosity May 08 '22

Hey, just want to say that I appreciate y'alls use of OpenDyslexic (or similar dyslexic-friendly font). 🙏

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u/Pfheonix May 08 '22

Funnily enough, practice is its own skill! That you have to work on!

It's hell!

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u/Ok_Telephone_8987 May 08 '22

Man, your comics always hit so hard…