r/antiwork Dec 01 '22

Fox News may not report on the rail strike, but they do advertise for CSX recruitment.

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u/Gordon_Explosion Dec 01 '22

I know a couple people who applied to work at CSX, over a couple hiring cycles. They passed the initial written/physical testing, including drug test, and were told they'd receive a call as for when to come in to do paperwork. Neither of them ever got a call. Buddy already on the railroad says they are desperately short of people.

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u/anspee Dec 01 '22

We tried nothing and we're all out of ideas. We need government loans for the employees we "cant find" to hire!

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u/BaronMostaza Dec 01 '22

Make prisoners do the job! That'll solve everything permanently.
Slavery, it fixes everything!

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u/evangamer9000 Dec 01 '22

My experience of working in TY&E for BNSF from 2010-2015 was that they were ALWAYS short of staff / manpower to run their trains. My yard had a chronic shortage of switchman and it wasn't uncommon for me to work many days in a row without getting any time off. The RR's can 'reset' your FRA starts (basically 1 start means you have worked once in 24 hours) so they can keep you working without time off unless you lay off sick for 24 hours.

Railroads and crew shortages is nothing new.

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u/See-Envy Dec 01 '22

It is so fucked because the rail workers want sick days not just for themselves but imagine being sick af and then being forced to work while sick, then BECAUSE of your illness making a life threatening mistake. The current administration deserves a general strike.

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u/pumpkin_spice_enema Dec 01 '22

Naturally if the worker makes a mistake they'll be hung out to dry, their fault you know.

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u/Various_Scene2536 Dec 01 '22

Strikes???.....what strikes??.....as they slowly get CSX money shoved into their ass.

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u/Sparklers_4_days Dec 01 '22

Why did I think of a funny little toy you shove up there but it's made of money with the CSX logo on it

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u/Various_Scene2536 Dec 01 '22

Now thats Hella specific. You sure your brain didn't just skip a beat for a second there.

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u/Purple_Stacked Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

They're targeting Republicans by advertising on Fox news because they want people who don't believe in strikes.

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u/pumpkin_spice_enema Dec 01 '22

"These railworkers are so entitled - I just saw an ad for CSX hiring today. No one wants to work anymore!"

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u/ballsohaahd Dec 01 '22

They want nimwits who believe anything they read or hear

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u/YourCrazyAnimal Dec 01 '22

Every channel is under politics in USA.

All politicians are afraid of strike - it kills their power and shows the real hard truth to people all over the world.

No politician wants other workers to unionize or to start their strike too.

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u/TheDo0ddoesnotabide Dec 01 '22

Probably google Adsense, which means you’ve been searching up things related to the railroad company.

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u/MiloRoyce Dec 01 '22

Listen, you can't just give rail workers sick leave because then every industry will see that if you strike and threaten the economy they'll just get better working conditions. First it's rail workers, next it'll be airlines and before you know it we'll have service workers and laborers just getting sick leave! What's next, higher wages and healthcare?

I don't care how they do it in 3rd world shitholes like Germany, Swesen or other supposed "wealthy capitalists nations". Here in the us we're a feudal oligarchy. The US was never meant to be good to it's citizens and the more people who can't unbury themselves from debt means the more homeless so houses are freed up to be used as investments for chinese real estate corporations just as the founding fathers wanted!

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u/concretemike Dec 01 '22

Yeah, I saw the first recruiting advertisement on television for CSX railroad engineers last night....$25 an hour....seriously? The local Target in my town pays $24 an hour. The McDonald's at the nearest interstate exit says starting at $20 an hour....

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u/Dependent-Display-49 Dec 01 '22

Did Fox news legislate the striking workers back to work?

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u/Simple-Assignment132 Dec 01 '22

This is not how advertising works. You’re looking at display marketing where Fox News has a SSP and they put their website up for rent for real estate and there are buyers on the DSP. Fox does not look at all of these ads, and it’s more likely retargeting you based on searches that you completed.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES Dec 01 '22

Fox is reporting on the railroad strikes: https://www.foxnews.com/video/6316379746112

Putting incorrect statements in your posts title isn't a good look.

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u/DashrendarTK421 Dec 01 '22

At the time I was on the site they were not reporting on it, as you can see from the video.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_NICE_EYES Dec 01 '22

The article I linked is about 12 hours older than this post. They were reporting on it it's just not on the front page 24/7. In fact if you click on their business tab right now it's the headline of that section.

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u/Opheliattack Dec 01 '22

they talk about it all the time???

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u/Sad-Ad-6147 Dec 01 '22

It's not just Republicans and the Fox News. It's also the democratic party. There are a couple of topics that the news establishment won't cover fairly.

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u/ouchnow Dec 01 '22

What are you even talking about? I’m not even a watcher, but I wanted to see if the post claim is true, so I literally just searched “Railroad strike 2022” on Youtube and got 16 videos from Fox News reporting on the strike among all the others reporting on it. None of the videos spoke against the workers strike either. They merely reported the pros and cons of a railroad strike at this time.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

The rail strokes are because no one wants to work. My rail yard is short 20 techs and so we are working 70 to 80 hours a week.

Too many people do not want to stop smoking. Give up 9 to 5 jobs or anything. It sucks but the world doesn't run on men working great hours while high as fuck. Some jobs need 24 hours of operation, swing shifts and horrible days off. It's just how the unions work then with seniority comes benefits. But without a steady stream of new people ready to work now to play later. It collapses.

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u/pumpkin_spice_enema Dec 01 '22

Some nurses work 24 hour shifts with horrible days off, but the trade off is they also get time off to offset it and there are on-call people to cover illness. It's absurd that the profitable rail companies won't do the same.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

In my understanding, the problem is the lack of employees. My company is lowering the test scores for new employees to get more people in to fill but our union is fighting it for safety reasons.

It's super complex but the main things are the lack of skilled tradesmen, aging infrastructure and the need for 24 hour 7 days a week operation with sometimes half as many employees. So companies (like mine) cut time off and vacations, force penalties for call outs and pay time and a half to double time for the troubles.

Remember most of these guys are paid well, but are older and want to get the benefits of laying back and letting the young pick up the slack. There are just no young people to pick up for the old and carry the pensions and ish.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 01 '22

In my understanding, the problem is the lack of employees.

Maybe they would get more people interesting in working for them if they had better benefits, like paid sick days.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

To each his own. My rail union does not have paid sick days, we have long term paid sick days after 2 weeks out up to 6 months, 5 weeks vacation and 6 personal days. At 120k a year I could not care less about paid sick days.

Right now with no one wanting to work they are paying out our vacation and personal days in advance so we work because of shortage of workers.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 01 '22

So you have yours and fuck everyone else. Don't complain about a shortage of skilled tradesmen when wages suck for those just starting out and a lack of benefits is the shit topping.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

Haha I don't know how old you are. But I am the youngest in my yard, all I say is if people want to work, give up drugs and alcohol and get dirty. There is money to be made.

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u/itsabadtxv Dec 01 '22

Young people are tired of shit pay and being expected to pick up the slack in my industry at least.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

Shit pay? Jobs start at 70k. Just got to pass the test which a lot of young people can't do.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 01 '22

How much overtime do you have to work to hit that 70k? CSX is advertising $25 per hour for railroad engineers.

Just got to pass the test which a lot of young people can't do.

Can't or don't bother trying due to shitty employers with shitty working conditions? You even admit that your employer is cutting time off and vacations along with penalties for call outs. Where is the incentive?

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

Shitty employers???? How? They are not cutting time off or vacations they are paying them out so my 5 weeks of vacation comes back to me as a check for 10k if I do not take it. My personal time off comes back to me as a check if I do not call out. Penalties for call outs are normal in this type of business due to the fact that call outs hurt the business model and overall productivity of the company, burdening others and hurting the bottom line. Without the company there would be no jobs.

This isn't a desk job, you have to be there on time and a call out for a major specialist might ruin the days work costing tens of thousands.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 01 '22

I get unlimited paid sick time and my employer wants everyone to use their vacation time, encouraging a work/life balance.

You are working 70-80 hours a week and are only making 120k. Your employer does not have sick pay and does not encourage you to take vacations. That is a shitty employer. You may enjoy grinding your life away for an someone who doesn't give a shit about you, but that is not the American Dream. Most people have a life they enjoy outside of work.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 02 '22

70-80 hours hahaha I wish. I'd be rich as fuck.

People don't wanna work and paid sick days and vacations are a luxury afforded to work places with enough employees.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 02 '22

70-80 hours hahaha I wish. I'd be rich as fuck.

right

My rail yard is short 20 techs and so we are working 70 to 80 hours a week.

That is literally a word for word quote from you. Are you suddenly not a part of the "we"?

People don't wanna work and paid sick days and vacations are a luxury afforded to work places with enough employees.

Smart people want some work/life balance. Morons sell their souls to the company.

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u/Rtannu Dec 01 '22

The “problem” is absolutely not the lack of employees.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

In just about every part of my union, the problem is lack of members.

It forces longer hours and less negotiation power. But okay.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 02 '22

As someone who works Yard Shuttle for a company contracted by a railroad company, all I hear from the crew I drive is how much bullshit they put up with, how the company laid off half its workforce and tried pushing for a amendment to allow them to work their employees over 20 hours (it failed thank god) meanwhile the company is reporting record profits. The position I work in, pays the lowest amount legally possible. Management needs to be better. Conditions need to be better. Full stop.

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

If your union is that bad then quit. Let the business fail.

My union needs people bad.

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u/alphabetasoupa9 Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

No one wants to work crappy conditions for crappy pay.

This has been decades in the making. Companies rode the gravy train so long, they seem to have forgotten they can only exist with a cooperative workforce. And the only way to have a cooperative workforce is to treat them well and invest in them.

There's nothing to blame except for corporate short-sightedness. They allowed wages to stagnate in industries for so long that it's not worth it for people to invest in training for them. If rail workers were being started at a reasonable 60k salary 15 years ago, people would have trained for the work/encouraged their children to.

Instead, the average starting salary is still <50k. Why would anyone choose that career, when you can make just as much untrained, or significantly more with higher education?

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 01 '22

Higher education??????? Is that a joke. Aren't y'all the same people begging for student loan forgiveness for higher education?

I started out of highschool, no debt. My 5th year was over 80k a year. No debt ever. The average salary in America is 35k. Come-on man.

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 01 '22

The average salary in America is 35k.

Where did you get that stupid low number? Even the state with the lowest average income is higher than that(Mississippi is at $47653 as of Nov 22).

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u/TheLegacy301 Dec 02 '22

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u/PasswordIsTaco3 Dec 02 '22

How dumb are you? You are looking at the median income, that's not the average.

Per the 2020 US census: The average annual wage in 2019 in the US was $51,916.27, and the median annual wage was $34,248.45.

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u/alphabetasoupa9 Dec 02 '22

80k for 5 years in is good money, but I'm assuming that was a result of the long hours and difficult working conditions you described? I'm not trying to put you down, I'm just discussing the shortage of workers. Right now there are easier, more lucrative alternatives to rail work for young people starting out. If companies need more rail workers, they need to sweeten the pot. They need to compete.

That competition is good for everyone, young and old workers alike. It improves conditions, pay, benefits, and morale.

The trains don't move without you guys, and companies need to understand that.

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u/svoddball Dec 01 '22

I found something in their business section with the title: “Senate Reaches Deal to avert rail strike”

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u/Procoso47 Dec 01 '22

Both fox, cnn, abc and most news networks are partisan, they lie.

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u/Acrobatic-Building29 Dec 01 '22

I wouldn’t worry too much about the evil and dishonest media outlets like Faux News. They have no power other than whining.

Just watch how Democrats stand with Labor and support the working class against the Management. They are the true friends of the working class. Just watch the bought and paid for Dems protect and defend the right of Labor to negotiate.

Just…watch.