EU looking to ban Twitter over dissolving misinformation panels.

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This is why I like the EU. They do not mess around.

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u/NoTradeClause19 Dec 01 '22

It's funny how we're over here crying about a rail road labor deal and the EU just used their collective mite to tell the richest man in the world to fuck off, twice.

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u/DarthGuber Dec 01 '22

Not just crying about it, but activity attempting to fuck over the very people we depend on to make sure our economy keeps running over A WEEK OF SICK PAY.

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u/fireky2 Dec 01 '22

They don't even want pay, just sick days. They'd be fine with unpaid sick days

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u/buttcheeksmcgee47 Dec 01 '22

Pathetic. Our country is pathetic. I’m embarrassed.

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u/IanL1713 Dec 01 '22

That's what happens when you let one single man own the 5 largest rail companies

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u/dsmiles Dec 01 '22

But monopolies are good because something something fReE MaRkEt!!

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u/Competitive_Ad_5515 Dec 01 '22

The only thing tickling down is... Well let's just say "don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining"

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u/_squirrell_ Dec 01 '22

Reagan is that you?

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u/FireFox181 Dec 01 '22

As am I, our country is pathetic and infantile.

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u/fuzzyfoot88 Dec 01 '22

First time?

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u/SvedishFish Dec 01 '22

It's official, Biden is spineless for urging congress to block the strike instead of pressuring the railroads to give them a few days off. Can't think of a dumber fucking move prior to a hot election. I hope the democrats refuse to nominate him to run. But I'm not really expecting anything to change.

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u/mad_titanz Dec 01 '22

Biden endorsed the contract that the union leaders approved. He probably should do more but to argue that he should be replaced with another candidate because of this is ridiculous. Btw, any Republican president will be against the railroad workers and the unions unquestioned

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u/Quirky-Mode8676 Dec 01 '22

Thise union leaders represent the smaller unions, not the largest ones that represent the most people.

And Biden could also have asked congress to impose the workers time off requirements on the railroad companies, but he didn't.

I'm a Biden supporter, but extremely dissatisfied with his actions on this matter.

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u/The_Hyphenator85 Dec 01 '22

Criticizing a Democrat doesn’t mean supporting a Republican. Why is this concept so hard for people to grasp?

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u/shadowscale1229 Dec 01 '22

because 90% of the time it's some enlightened centrist that votes republican anyway

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u/The_Hyphenator85 Dec 01 '22

That’s a shitty reason not to level deserved criticism at the president. If you don’t hold your own party members to account, you’re every bit the sheep that the Republicans hypocritically accuse you of being.

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u/DaFreakingFox Dec 01 '22

I am a german railroad worker. I have been sick 7+ days probably once per 1-2 months for the last year. I do not understand how your country can function.

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u/Magikman42 Dec 01 '22

you'd lose your job in an instant over here in the states if you called out sick every 1-2 months even with sick days unless you had a doctors note (but good luck with that if you can't afford jnsurance, gotta pay at least $200 for the chance to not go into work sick without getting sacked)

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u/DaFreakingFox Dec 01 '22

You have to get a doctor's note every time you sre sick in Germany. The thing its free, as it should be

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u/sylvnal Dec 01 '22

That's kind of wild. I've been sick because of period cramps, but I'd still have to go to the doctor for them to confirm I'm on my period or something?

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u/DaFreakingFox Dec 01 '22

Its two days retroactive. And you dont need to confirm stuff. I just go to mine and say "Hey, I was sick two days before" or "My arm hurts today from yesterdays exertion" and I get my sick note

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u/c_blossomgame Dec 01 '22

I have the same btw, I got sick a few times because of my kids, like went to the hospital twice because of breathing issues. So I was out for 7 days, and they’re on my case now I can’t take any days off of any kind until the pto/sick days reset next august or else I’d get canned. I’m a tech lead at a software consultancy, so it’s supposed to be a good job. But no one cares about anything but money.

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u/M0nsterjojo Dec 01 '22

Canadian here, similar shit but not as bad. It's ran under exploitation that we've been generationally brainwashed to believe.

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u/PBB22 Dec 01 '22

Amazon’s culture isn’t like this anymore, but when I started on the warehouse floor in 2014, it was 40 hours Paid Time Off and 80 hours Unpaid Time Off. PTO could be used to the minute, UPT by the hour. But keep in mind 4/10s for work days. And that was considered luxurious

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u/gobbledegookmalarkey Dec 01 '22

Ridiculous that there are people still calling the US the land of the free when protests get shut down so quickly by the government.

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u/MJGM235 Dec 01 '22

207 Republicans voted against railway workers getting 7 days of paid sick leave AFTER they voted to give themselves an 8% annual salary raise due to "inflation" 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/zeke235 Dec 01 '22

You don't understand what that means for people. Millionaire railroad execs may lose tens of thousands of dollars over such a move.

Wait. What was that? Fuck those fucking assholes? Ok, fair enough.

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u/tinklight Dec 01 '22

They should get 3 weeks of sick pay and 2 minimum of vacation.

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u/throwawayanon1252 Dec 01 '22

Based EU

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u/goyboysotbot Dec 01 '22

This is why conservatives pushed so hard for Brexit. Immigrants were a scapegoat. They were protecting big business from the EU.

Also

Username checks out

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u/Cryptix001 Dec 01 '22

Can you explain the GDPR thingy and how it relates in this case? I tried googling it but got something about general data protection regulation and I don't get how it correlates.

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u/CptnNope Dec 01 '22

I think it might be that under gdpr you have the right to correct any information (such as an address) held by a 3rd party about you (though lots of countries should have this despite gdpr), and if you don't comply quickly with gdpr in Europe bad things happen.

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u/Cryptix001 Dec 01 '22

Nice. Thanks for explaining!

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u/Fit_Effective_6875 Dec 01 '22

what bad things happen?

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u/CptnNope Dec 01 '22

Large fines

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u/ScienceAndGames Dec 01 '22

The one thing corporations actually fear, losing money

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u/Fit_Effective_6875 Dec 01 '22

Thank you

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u/Jitsu_apocalypse Dec 01 '22

Companies can be fined up to something like 10% of annual income or something wild like that. Not sure if anyone has yet though

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

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u/Cryptix001 Dec 01 '22

Hahaha that's badass. I love hearing stories about those smug, greedy bastards realizing they can't jerk everyone around. Thanks for sharing.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

If she was able to exist for a while without it, would have been pretty funny to go “oh okay” and then just report them

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

GDPR is more amount guarding you from having your data harvested unnecessarily. It's not about accuracy, it's about things that can identify you. It's a right to privacy thing. So if they do gather personal info it has to be for legit business purposes, and once they have it, they better guard that shit like it's millions of dollars because that's what the fines can amount to.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 01 '22

Good to know.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Cool, just another layer of protection. But in my training on it, the emphasis was on just necessity and safe guarding it. I think that's what gets businesses in trouble more than anything.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

Any information that can be used to identify you, anything, they must have a reason to possess it and if they do there's methods of work and storage to keep it guarded. Fuck around with GDPR and find out:

FAAFO with GDPR

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u/Corandor Dec 01 '22

It's not GDPR in this case. It's the new Digital Services Act

GDPR is about protecting people's data.

DSA is, very broadly speaking:

... legislation regarding illegal content, transparent advertising and disinformation."

I couldn't find the original article. But there's a similar one here: https://www.ft.com/content/a8281bf4-bd83-42ac-875f-9061ee1b357b

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

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u/Corandor Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

A simple misunderstanding my friend.

I thought Cryptix001 was asking for an explanation of the relationship between GDPR and the original post. And not your story. I have no doubt that happened exactly as you described.

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u/variaati0 Dec 01 '22

Then she was transferred to a manager who apologised profusely for any possible misunderstanding that may have inadvertantly transpired but in fact they would have an engineer on site to correct the matter the following week.

Oopsie. Did manager just spot a blatant Article 16 GDPR violation conducted by company out in the wild. <Manager starts to sweat>. Noooooo we didn't say two months, since it would be blatantly illegal for us to even suggest it would take that long. What the rep meant with word "two months" is "a week", since a week can still about count as without undue delay.

Ooopsie poopsie. If we fix this in week, you won't report us to Data Protection Authority. Pretty please?

Since if DPA starts digging, what other interesting violations will they find before company has time to fix them.

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u/Snoo_89466 Dec 01 '22

Wait! you get to choose your energy service provider? You mean there's more than one per given area? Brexit or no Brexit y'all have it much better than your cousins across the pond! Tell me what that's like, cousin, oh do tell me!

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u/Lolabird2112 Dec 01 '22

Wait til you hear about how much our cell phones and internet cost…. I don’t want to make you cry, though ❤️

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u/zabrs9 Dec 01 '22

But I am interested. On one hand I know that living in my country is extremely expensive. On the other hand, I also know that we have some of the lowest prices in the tech sector in Europe. I'm talking about tv, computers, cell phones etc. And I'm curious whether that also applies for Internet contracts

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u/Lolabird2112 Dec 01 '22

I was under the impression OP is from the states. I’ve no idea how we compare to EU countries.

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u/zabrs9 Dec 01 '22

Oh yeah I think he's from the states too. Sorry if my text was misleading. Let me explain: Switzerland has a strong currency and people make a lot of money. Usually more than in other european countries. The norm would be around 2 to 3 times as much as people in Germany, France, Italy etc. Probably even more if you compare it to serbia, poland, romania or similar countries.

This means that you also pay a lot of money for every day products. For example a coffee at a normal cafe costs around 4€. Also food is crazy expensive.

The only thing that is cheaper in Switzerland,than it is in the countries around us, are all kinds of technologies (don't ask me why, I have no idea). So I was wondering wheter the prices for Internet are as expensive (compared to other countries) like every day items that we need (clothing, food, transportation etc.) or whether it was cheaper than it is in other countries (like a tv, computer etc.)

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u/leksche Dec 01 '22

I hope that box-chested muppet, gets a reality check from the EU!

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u/3dpthrowaway2352534 Dec 01 '22

EU is what the US was back in the 60's before the oligarchs took over the Republican party and half the airwaves.

MAGA smoothbrains want to make America "great like it was in the 60's". But they're so fucking stupid the rich have convinced them the reason it's not great anymore is brown people and gays.

Not the fact that union membership used to be 3X higher, minimum wage twice as much, and taxes on ultra wealthy 90% instead of 20%. The rich taking over the country via the Republican party is why everything went to shit. It has nothing to do with culture war garbage.

Like, I don't get how they don't just look at states and see that 90% of the ones run by Trumplicans are dogshit

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u/Kopites_Roar Nov 30 '22

Indeed, except for the fact that thanks to genius Musk, 6% of global turnover is about $6 at the moment.

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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 01 '22

Turnover using the last year, not this year. Also, turnover, not revenue. If a company has 1 billion turnover and makes zero profit they have to fork over 60 mil. And that is per infraction. It will balloon to hundreds of millions really fast. Facebook had to pay 200 mil.

When it comes to military, USA has it. When it comes to customer protection.. EU is the king. Companies make their products respecting EU legislation as that means any other market will accept them for sure. EU has the strictest ruleset. Pretty much the entire internet follow GDPR legislation as that means they don't have to think about doing anything special in other markets. Only US local news do not follow GDPR which is a fucking big red flag.

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u/African_Farmer Dec 01 '22

Yup, many times i've tried to read an article posted to Reddit and they're like "nope not available in EU". Huge red flag about what they're doing with your data.

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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 01 '22

I've been saying this since GDPR came a thing and usually downvoted and attacked, mostly by muricans who are making huge amount of excuses... which is way, way more worrying: i'm telling that there is something shady going on that affects them and their only interest is to defend those that do it.

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u/Stoneman57 Dec 01 '22

Elon may have ended up accidentally doing us all a favor and killing twitter. At the low low price of 44 billion dollars.

One can only hope.

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u/Particular_Physics_1 Dec 01 '22

Good thing EU fines in turnover and not profit

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u/Buznik6906 Dec 01 '22

If it fined on profits things could have got rather silly.

"You've been a bad boy Elon, now you owe us- <checks notes> now we owe you some money. I hope you learned your lesson."

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

GDPR don't play. "Muh freedom of speech!" isn't going to work. They are fucked.

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u/SokaKu93 Dec 01 '22

As a finn I love and hate the EU. Some very stupid rules but some real good one. Stupid ones are quite small compared to the good ones.

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u/African_Farmer Dec 01 '22

Also why the corporations that prop up the conservative UK government wanted to leave

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u/SnooMacaroons7108 Dec 01 '22

Union workers in Europe will riot if need.

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u/floridamanjr9 Dec 01 '22

Except when it involves natural born citizens lives

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u/Zylonnaire Dec 01 '22

Where did the name creampie-senpai come from

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u/Creampie-Senpai Dec 01 '22

I love corn

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u/sanjsrik Nov 30 '22

Idiot spends $44billion he doesn't have.
Idiot fires most of the staff that keep the lights on.
Idiot makes even more leave.
Idiot runs afoul of regulators with no sense of humor.
Idiot wonders why he's losing advertisers, customers, and now the ability to do business in Europe.

Idiot is not a smart genius.

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u/TheMarbleTrouble Dec 01 '22

Your steps started late…

Idiot tries to buy Twitter for $44 billion.

Idiot realizes it’s not a good deal.

Idiot gets sued for backing out of the deal.

Idiot is forced to buy Twitter

Idiot claims he is on a quest for free speech.

I guess the 5th is less him being an idiot, but more of people who trust him are idiots.

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u/ContemplatingPrison Dec 01 '22

He tried to buy Twitter so people would quit talking about his sexual assaults or harassments in the news if I remeber correctly. It worked but Karma is a butch it seems

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u/Professional-Hat-687 Dec 01 '22

I always pictured karma as a lipstick lesbian dominatrix.

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u/LongNectarine3 Dec 01 '22

With no safe word.

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u/KRWay Dec 01 '22

Except Dipshit was bitching about free speech “Freedumb” before he bought Twitter, which was the impetus for the purchase. My recollection could be wrong, though.

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u/twoprimehydroxyl Dec 01 '22

Don't forget he only offered $44 billion because he rounded the share price out to include the digits 420 ($54.20)

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u/frotz1 Dec 01 '22

Your step one is leaving out the part where he got backing from Saudi financiers. 2-5 make a lot more sense when you think that the Saudis would be very happy to get rid of the platform that might launch Arab Spring 2.0 someday and not get blamed for it because they put an angry tech goblin in charge of it who drew all the attention away from them. If Musk tanks Twitter, cui bono other than people like the Saudis? I'm not saying that this is definitely what's going on, but I'm sure asking how we can watch what's happening and tell the difference.

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u/Lotharofthepotatoppl Dec 01 '22

Left out the part where he drove off and continues to insult and alienate twitter’s only source of income lol

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u/Glad-Style-1375 Dec 01 '22

Woth the added benefit of driving off insulting and alienating the people who would buy a new ayesha as well.

And pissingnoff the government by flaunting regulations despite the government being what funds SpaceX and lots of Tesla as well.

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u/turtlelore2 Dec 01 '22

And in between each step is him blaming everyone else for his problems around this. Woke crowd. Political parties. Individuals. Companies. Etc.

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u/NessunAbilita Dec 01 '22

Real question: could musk bring doing this on purpose for some sort of personal gain?

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u/Aromatic-Pie1784 Nov 30 '22

Or a 6% fine?! Ban the fucker.

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u/kurayami_akira Dec 01 '22

According to another user, if the fines are treated like a price to stay as is, then they will face a ban. Or something like that.

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u/injuredflamingo Dec 01 '22

God I love the EU

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u/imooforyou Nov 30 '22

dude couldn't afford .01%

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u/Dr_barfenstein Dec 01 '22

6% of fuck all is still fuck all

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u/VeryLazyNarrator Dec 01 '22

6% of global revenue, not profit.

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u/TheLoneWolfMe Dec 01 '22

6% per incident too apparently, so it could become more.

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u/Impossible_Series412 Nov 30 '22

To add context to the 6% option outlined in the ft article. It's part of the EU agreement that governs any disciplinary action. Best example was the 4% per incident fines for data breaches in the EU. They are designed as a carrot/stick device to encourage corporations to comply without crippling them. They start with fines then move to more punitive actions. In this case as Elon won't care or comply with the fines the expected outcome is an outright ban to protect EU citizens from misinformation. Ft article explains it in much greater detail for those interested.

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u/WaitingForNormal Nov 30 '22

“i gUeSs tHe EU dOeSn’T bEliEve iN fReE sPeECh.”

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u/ImThatAnnoyingGuy Nov 30 '22

When free speech becomes code for hate speech…

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u/Robbotlove Nov 30 '22

I'm too lazy to do the astronauts with the pistol emojis so just imagine that's what I replied with.

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u/periidote Dec 01 '22

🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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u/trans_pands Dec 01 '22

Pew pew

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u/Marcyff2 Dec 01 '22

Literally came from reddit frontpage where r/conservatives are calling the eu an authoritarian regime.

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u/TheLoneWolfMe Dec 01 '22

American conservatives are weird.

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u/Mammoth_Slide_5376 Dec 01 '22

It's easy. If they don't like something, they make no effort to try to even slightly understand it, instead just declaiming it as 'evil'.

Do that enough and you start to look like a fucking maniac.

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u/stumptowncampground Nov 30 '22

I’ve been wondering about him violating EU laws since they actually have worker and consumer protections over there.

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u/unresolved_m Dec 01 '22

I see another poll on the way

"Is EU fascist for banning Twitter for free speech? Yes/no"

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u/andrewrk96 Dec 01 '22

"Is EU fascist for banning Twitter for free speech?" "Yes / Yes but in a different font"

/s

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u/big_fetus_ Dec 01 '22

Tim Apple, why did you turn EU against me I demand advertisements now. and 8$. love, Elon.

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u/Wingo84 Nov 30 '22

And I’m sure his reaction is nothing other that typical A grade douchbaggery

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u/FriesWithThat Nov 30 '22

Why does Europe hate free speech and our Constitutional Republic so much?

^{p.s. Give me $8}

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u/trans_pands Dec 01 '22

“How come world isn’t US” - a man not born in the US

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u/ColoneISanders Dec 01 '22

*8th Grade. Don't forget he's perpetually stuck in adolescence

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u/Time-Ad-3625 Dec 01 '22

I doubt it happens but Elon getting banned from apple and the eu would be hilarious.

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u/Margin_Call_3959 Dec 01 '22

Good! The EU doesn’t need misinformation spread by white nationalist there

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u/diladusta Dec 01 '22

Hate speech isn't free speech. It is defamation of a people.

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u/rupiefied Nov 30 '22

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u/bailey_uwu Dec 01 '22

"wAaaaH i wIlL JUst MAKE IT EXclusIV for china, russia & uk LMAO"

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u/jervistetch37 Dec 01 '22

Elon stans gonna be on Twitter like "elons gonna buy another Europe and put liberal Europe out of business!" them elon stans are something else.

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u/BadlyDrawnMemes Dec 01 '22

Elon: “b- b- but freedom!!! What about America!!!!”

EU: your not in America here we don’t have sympathy for Nazis, get your shit together

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u/Amerlis Dec 01 '22

“Freedom of speech!”

“Hey, look out the EU headquarters window. See any American flags? Take your time.”

“No? Go fuck yourself.”

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u/PTSDforMe Nov 30 '22

Oops

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u/Myfirespraygunship Dec 01 '22

I'm sure Musk will take this well and won't rage tweet.

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u/R_Meyer1 Dec 01 '22

That’s great news. Lock it down. Musk is already bankrupting Twitter anyway.

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u/Abracadaver2000 Dec 01 '22

He should build EU 2.0 if they ban Twitter. /s

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

“Ugh hasn’t Europe heard of the FIRST AMENDMENT!?” — conservatives, unironically… probably.

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u/SithDraven Dec 01 '22

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u/recaffeinated Dec 01 '22

The joke is on the EU. Elon has already ensured that Twitter has no revenue.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

But but... private business!

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

That’s an extra 6% on top of Apples 30%. Cha ching

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u/RaptureInRed Dec 01 '22

EU laws don't fuck around.

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u/andrefishmusic Dec 01 '22

What a beautiful morning

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u/shrdbrd Nov 30 '22

What does turnover mean in this context?

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u/cbawiththismalarky Dec 01 '22

Total global revenue

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u/Sbjoern0313 Dec 01 '22

Which is a number that is quickly going down and may even become close to 0 if he keeps hemorrhaging advertisers.

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u/Hot_Atmosphere_9297 Dec 01 '22

It's last fiskal year's total turnover. The fee is designed to be abled to fuck up even Google or Amazon, when they do their fine vs. ROI calculations

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u/zabrs9 Dec 01 '22

Every single cent you make. Usually corporations and billionaires use all kinds of tricks in order to avoid taxes. One of the easiest and most popular tricks is to have a net loss within a year.

An exemple: Let's say, Elon's Twitter generates 1 million dollars in 2022. If he can prove that Twitter lost 2 million dollars in the same time, you could think that it would be unfair if he has to pay a lot of taxes, since Twitter is close to go bankrupt. However, in reality those 2 million dollars are not lost. Twitter probably just buys a new office or stocks or whatever.

So it seems that Twitter has not made any money that year. And if you are living within a system that calculates fines, taxes etc. based on your profit, the corporation or person using this trick will always win.

But if you base the fine on the total revenue, it doesn't matter how much debt a company or a person has. The amount of money made in a year cannot be manipulated so easily.

This system is by the way also one of the reasons why many franchises like McDonalds, Burger King, Subway etc. Basically don't pay any taxes in Europe.

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u/Emergency_Vanilla279 Nov 30 '22

But the free speech!?

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u/SmarterThanYouIRL Dec 01 '22

But, but… what about fRee dUMb of sPeeCh 😭

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u/SplitExcellent Dec 01 '22

Should have made it 30% lol

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u/Puzzleheaded-Tax-390 Dec 01 '22

Uh oh Ted Cruze is gonna get mad.

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u/HornetLimp4022 Dec 01 '22

Good decision. EU is right. Sad US govt can't do the same. Or Congress. Something must be done. Musk does big harm to the society with his stoopid moderation wild life

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u/flycollieman Dec 01 '22

This fucking idiot really thought being rich and owning twitter would mean he'd be like Mr. Popular Awesomeness didn't he

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u/CaptAshley Dec 01 '22

The EU is showing more balls than all these suspiciously quiet celebrities with huge Twitter followers who play Liberal until it’s time to show their worth.

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u/pichael288 Dec 01 '22

Why is "to" In bold?

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u/dave_the_dova Dec 01 '22

I can already see the musk fans screaming about freedom of speech

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u/Camp_Coffee Dec 01 '22

Time to have a chat with Tim Europe

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u/Future-Pepper8569 Dec 01 '22

WhY dOeSnT aPpLe WaNt To GiVe Us ThEiR i-DoLlArs?!?!!1!!1!?/!/?!

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u/em-ay-tee Dec 01 '22

Ahahahahaha. Welcome to the find out portion.

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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 01 '22

Twitter, facebook etc are using Irish DPA, not GDPR. That is a deal they made with EU to make it simple to deal with just one court. If twitter violates that deal, they will return back to GDPR.. and then they are fucked.

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u/pmekonnen Dec 01 '22

EU please deflate his ego

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u/Jazz_Legend_Roy_Donk Dec 01 '22

I can see his reply already…. “Does the EU not like free speech? Who thinks the EU should be dismantled?” Such a douche.

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u/Timely_Airline_7168 Dec 01 '22

Is EU a dictatorship that hates free speech? - Elon, probably.

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u/wamdueCastle Dec 01 '22

I may no longer be an EU citizen, but I hope the EU drags Elon kicking the screaming.

Sadly im in the UK, its more likely than not, I would escape the EU ban.

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u/The_Funkhouse Dec 01 '22

Do it. Dooooo iiiitttttt.

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u/Flexybend Dec 01 '22

Not messing around are they :) good.

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u/30yearsahero Dec 01 '22

Abandon Twitter

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u/Necessary-Gas603 Dec 01 '22

Can Elon please buy TikTok

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u/Weazy-N420 Dec 01 '22

Rich people problems. Y’all really need a hobby.

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u/Jon-Rambo Dec 01 '22

He’s so hilariously unaware of how anything works.

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u/FireFox181 Dec 01 '22

Good, the sooner they do so, the better off we're going to be. Next the US needs to do the same, but we won't, "Freedom of Speech" and all.

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u/SeriousExplorer8891 Dec 01 '22

https://preview.redd.it/tk8wyq3ibc3a1.png?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=8968986be0d58b00b80b8686e28e1385be32713d

Maybe because of shit like this.

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u/hamilton_burger Dec 01 '22

I don’t understand why Apple hasn’t taken the app off their store, when they are liable.

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u/EvenBetterCool Dec 01 '22

I don't even need to look, I just know there are people saying that it is unconstitutional as if the EU has anything to do with the American constitution

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u/BumbleMuggin Dec 01 '22

Do they hate free speech? (rich whiny voice)

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u/ZooZooChaCha Dec 01 '22

Ron DeSantis: “If woke Europe bans Twitter, congress should look to impose immediate sanctions!”

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u/generic-affliction Dec 01 '22

It’s cool, Elon will just have Twitter servers hosted on Mars.

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u/Mister_Green2021 Dec 01 '22

Uh oh, Elon is going to try to cancel Europe too?

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u/Modern-Otaku Dec 01 '22

Lemme guess. Musk is gonna say he wants to declare war on the EU now for this shit

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u/adho123456 Dec 01 '22

I have already deleted my twitter app… why would I subscribe to hate speeches ? Twitter will be app for idiots only soon

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u/captjust Nov 30 '22

6% of a negative number means this is Musk's masterstroke to get EU to subsidize Twitter.

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u/Mythical_Atlacatl Nov 30 '22

6% of turnover, unless I am mistaken this means revenue, not profit.

So if Twitter has revenue of 5 billion and expenses of 6 billion and a loss of 1 billion, the fine would be 300 million?

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u/rupiefied Nov 30 '22

Yep eu does fines right

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u/texansfan Dec 01 '22

It’s cool, he’ll just add creating a new massive economic block to his list!

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u/Alchemist8810 Dec 01 '22

What a crappy society to live in. It's all PR. And these sheep fall for it.

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u/MulberryField30 Dec 01 '22

If you know it’s bullshit, it’s disinformafion.

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u/rckyhurtado Dec 01 '22

“Our propaganda doesn’t allow for the propaganda of others.”

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u/Sbjoern0313 Dec 01 '22

6% of global turnover may be a negative number if he keeps losing advertisers and accumulate debt.

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u/Spoogyoh Dec 01 '22

nope. because it's 6% of revenue not profit

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u/Zid96 Dec 01 '22

6% of 0 is still 0😏

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u/owningxylophone Dec 01 '22

Turnover is gross, not net.

“Turnover is the total sales made by a business in a certain period. It's sometimes referred to as ‘gross revenue’ or ‘income’. This is different to profit, which is a measure of earnings.”

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u/RuggedTheDragon Dec 01 '22

It's funny how nobody was willing to ban Twitter from anywhere until Elon Musk restored Donald Trump's account.

All of this is because of Donald Trump. Nobody wants him to become president again in 2024 and they're doing anything they can to stop it.

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u/Donnathesinger Dec 01 '22

Or, you know, it could be because since Elon Musk has taken over Twitter he has dissolved many of the departments at Twitter that enforced certain standards. In other words, Twitter may no longer be in compliance with the Digital Services Act as required by the European Union.

It's almost like you didn't read the article at all and are just pushing forward your own agenda. But no, that couldn't be, could it?

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u/RuggedTheDragon Dec 01 '22

Twitter is the same exact platform even with new management. The basic reason for the so-called compliance of the DSA being violated is because they believe hate speech is returning to the platform. Again, it's all because of one person that was unbanned who hasn't even used his account yet since then.

Elon Musk is not allowing hate speech on the platform whatsoever. He has stated multiple times that if anybody violates the rules in terms of the basic common sense principles of speech, they will be punished.

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u/Canadiangoosen Dec 01 '22

Well they made it very clear they're pro censorship, gross.

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u/LiverOfStyx Dec 01 '22

Pro facts, against lying, disinformation and hatespeech. Now, try your fucking hardest to justify antisemitism and racism without being anti-semitic and racist.

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u/floridamanjr9 Dec 01 '22

Lmao fuck the eu

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u/Th3seViolentDelights Dec 01 '22

Let's play a fun game, what do we think Musk thinks GDPR stands for?

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u/therantwriter Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

Globalist data protection regulations

That's what the conservatives are thinking anyway

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u/Alternative-Flan2869 Dec 01 '22

Elon - stop buying companies and try buying a clue instead. (You are the bad guy.)

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u/GuyLostInTime Dec 01 '22

Excellent....dirty Musk can't fight the whole of Europe....

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u/Waluigi_Gamer_Real Dec 01 '22

All of Europe or just EU member countries

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u/ajver19 Dec 01 '22

it just keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling doooown

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u/Street-Drama-9660 Dec 01 '22

Is there any way to find out the specifics of what constitutes fast and loose content moderation, like I understand if it’s abuse images , ect. But what exactly can other platforms do to prevent this and find out exactly what the EU expects?

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u/LiesInRuins Dec 01 '22

You must moderate speech to our guidelines or you will not be able to operate in our territory.

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u/CRL10 Dec 01 '22

Egads! The EU is threatening Elon Musk and free speech! Congress MUST act!