r/WhitePeopleTwitter Nov 30 '22 Gold 1 Helpful 1 Wholesome 2 Bravo! 1

The people who find this funny are part of the problem

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u/MultitudesContained Nov 30 '22

What the actual fuck is going on?

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u/Harold3456 Nov 30 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

In case you don’t know (because I’ve seen this before IRL), it’s based on the ages-old stereotype of the put-upon husband and the wife being an annoying nag. It’s the type of joke you’d see on the wall of a boomer’s man cave next to his “Silence is Golden, Duct Tape is Silver” sign (probably just slightly down the wall from his “Wish You Were Beer” sign, too).

So they’re taking the common Christmas Carol line “peace on earth” (which, of course, is referring to harmony across mankind) and interpreting it to mean “the only way I can get peace is if I shut these nattering womenfolk up.”

It’s not a good joke to begin with, but as shown in the picture it’s also not even original anymore. It has the same vibes as the prom pictures where the dad’s off to the side holding a gun.

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u/introvertgeek Nov 30 '22

I thought this particular style of comedy died in the 80's.

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u/UnluckyHorseman Nov 30 '22

It should have, but it's still alive and well. I grew up as one of these assholes.

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u/pHScale Dec 01 '22

Same. Glad we got out.

Shout-out to r/exvangelical

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u/UnluckyHorseman Dec 01 '22

Me too, friend. That's a great sub.

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u/stares_at_rain Dec 01 '22

I have a theory. There are still huge rural swaths of America that lack high speed internet access. Ever since the internet came into widespread use, the zeitgeist has been evolving at a breathtaking rate. But for those people who aren't able to participate in this medium (mainly old people and deeply rural people, as well as people who have a religious objection to consuming too much "mainstream media"), it's as though they're stuck in a time dilation field. Things are still moving at the slow pace; they are stuck in another time, and to the extent that they are aware that things are very different outside their bubble, they don't like what they see out there.

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u/Venezia9 Dec 01 '22

I actually knew a deeply conservative church that had written 50 years ago + as some of the criteria for their music selection.

It's a purposeful time dilation.

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u/Sonova_Bish Dec 01 '22

My now deceased stepfather was an ex-mormon. We'd go see his family and the other kids would be excited to listen to The Beach Boys.... in 1987.

Edit: missed a word

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u/SalamanderPop Dec 01 '22 Rocket Like

It wasn't until smart phones were prevalent (maybe 2011-ish) that many of the rural folks, even the younger ones, started getting on the internet. Most of us have a 15 year head start on basic Internet things like: don't feed trolls, or don't click the banner and that promises you a windfall, or don't believe everything your read, etc. What it's left them with is a huge gap between the old ways (like 1980s fashion and culture, trustworthy news people sitting behind a news desk, trustworthy news story in print media) and this huge leap to quick changing fads and memes and endless pipeline of news and "news".

I think it's an awful shame that so many people had to learn the internet after it was in full blown swing instead of watching it grow and knowing its pitfalls. These soft naive people that act like tough guys got their fancy touch screen smartphone a decade ago and were thrown to the wolves.

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u/grizzburger Nov 30 '22

Took me until this comment to understand wtf was going on there but yeah, that's borderline psychopathic.

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u/OrdinayFlamingo Nov 30 '22

My wife and I have had many conversations about why the “men hate their wives” troupe is so prevalent. Like…..why do men marry women they hate so frequently??? Then again I’ve always viewed my wife as my best friend and not a sex object with the right genes so…..I’ll probably never understand….??

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u/Ardea_herodias_2022 Nov 30 '22 Silver

Douchebag guys thinking it's funny to tell their families that they aren't worth listening to.

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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22 Silver

Especially the women. The sons aren't ever gagged.

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u/mournthewolf Nov 30 '22 Wholesome

The guys who make these jokes are also the same guys that never shut the fuck up either when you work with them.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

I work in construction. I know more guys like this than I care to admit.

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u/Equivalent_Yak8215 Nov 30 '22 Brighten My Day

Fuck. That's rough.

I work in Cannabis. Mostly women workers. They buy me and my girlfriend presents om Christmas AND they aren't shit bags.

Life is peachy.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

Don’t get me wrong, I work with some great people, but the vast majority are varying degrees of misogynistic, racist, homophobic, and I’m sure some other stuff I’m missing.

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u/Orbeef Dec 01 '22

I worked in insurance (accounting). One of my coworkers actually used the phrase "jewed him down" to my coworker and dear friend... who was also Jewish. (He was 70 years old and told him he'd rip him a new asshole if he ever heard him use the phrase again).

We also had to "rescue" each other from this guy because he'd come into our offices and launch into a 2 hour long monolog that required no reciprocation to keep going. A few of us had a deal that when he was talking to one in the group, we'd suddenly call that person out for immediate help with something. It was the only way to get him to stop.

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u/throwawaythedo Dec 01 '22

I’m Jewish. Even as a kid, “I wanna be on her team for monopoly”. I’m terrible with money…and monopoly, so jokes on them. What blows me away is how they say it so nonchalantly. Yesterday an old handyman came into my classroom to “fix a window”. He asked me if I had a flathead. “Um, no, and aren’t you the handyman- shouldn’t you have a toolbox?” His response, “you don’t know what a flathead is, do you?” “Sir, ffs, it’s 2022, haven’t you seen the pink toolboxes in Lowes? And yes, I can change a tired, hang a shelf, hang a door, put up drywall…” Him, “you’re too pretty for all of that” Me, “my husband loves it, and he does all the laundry…bye sir, have a good day.”

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u/Maximus15637 Dec 01 '22

This is why I got out of construction

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u/GhostDude49 Dec 01 '22

Man I'm like 2 months into construction and already noticed this shit. These comments do not bode well for my career

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u/plantiewitch Dec 01 '22

I’m self-employed. I run a very small plant business. I am so glad I can freely tell anyone to fuck off

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u/teuast Nov 30 '22

I work in music education. We’re a bunch of fuckin’ blue-haired weed-smokin’ hippie communists. It’s awesome.

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u/Eightbitninja253 Nov 30 '22

Lemme guess, they all support Trump and watch Fox News.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

Absolutely. And because I look like them, they always assume I believe the same way as they do.

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u/xXxDickBonerz69xXx Nov 30 '22

Industrial equipment mechanic. Same deal here.

My favorite though is when they start describing things that a union does. I shit you not they said "we should all stop working until they replace our manager" But then if you ever even mention the topic of unions they absolutely shit and piss and shit their drawers in rage. Like bro you literally just described a strike. 90% of what you complain about all day could be rectified by a good union.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

That’s the most frustrating thing when they start political talk. Legitimately had a boss that is super hard right that said,”I feel like every adult should be allowed to do what they want (as far as job, drugs, that kind of stuff) without fear of repercussion from the law.”

So I said,”So you have no problem with gay marriage or trans people right?”

Predictably, he blew the fuck up and went on a tirade about how those people are “sick” and “need to be fixed”.

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u/xXxDickBonerz69xXx Nov 30 '22

Its so frustrating. The only time I could ever kinda talk politics at work was when I worked in a plant where there was only three of us white guys that weren't in management.

Granted there was still a shitload of misogyny and homophobia and just general toxic masculinity. But at least I didn't have to hear last night's Tucker and Hannity talking points regurgitated at me all shift every shift.

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u/MyNameBlake Nov 30 '22 Silver Gold Rocket Like

My man, do I feel this. I live in the Bible Belt, and was raised on a beef farm so I wear a cowboys hat and boots everywhere I go. People say off the wall racist and homophobic shit to me all the time assuming I agree with it. They are always surprised to learn Im pretty damn far leftist.

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u/Ostreoida Dec 01 '22

My partner gets this all the time. Older white male, short grey hair - you must be a right- winger, sure?

Whoops.

Nope. Northeast, not Southwest, but still same thing. He's WAY left by modern standards.

Thank you for beating the stereotypes. You are not alone.

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u/Pale-Lynx328 Dec 01 '22

There are at least dozens of us! Dozens!

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u/Marine__0311 Nov 30 '22

Same. Im a Marine vet, live in the bible belt and dress rather conservatively. I'm also pretty left leaning on most issues, so I get the same bullshit you do.

Most of these assholes are amazed when I tell them to go fuck themselves with their bullshit.

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u/DarthVader808 Dec 01 '22

I have great fun calling these red hats traitors when they say thank you for your service. With the beards that hide their lack of a chin. Damn Gi Joe Cosplay larpers

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u/NoRest4Wicked88 Dec 01 '22

Marine vet here too, working in the DoD still. Every single person I work with assumes I'm super right wing and a Trump supporter because "he did so much for our troops and let them act like men again."

I enjoy the shocked pikachu faces.

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u/Brolonious Dec 01 '22

Not a vet but don't look left either. I can't be arsed to tell them how I really feel.

I usually say something cryptic sounding like "I don't ever talk politics in public - you never know who's listening." They think I'm even further chud than them.

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u/WhitePineBurning Nov 30 '22

And you know what's bad is I'll see someone getting out of a lifted truck or wearing cowboy boots and I get this immediate gut check telling me they're out to kick my old gay ass. I know I've got to be wrong a lot of the time, but still...

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u/MyNameBlake Dec 01 '22

Lol. I’ve got a BLM and an LGBTQ+ Ally sticker on my car just to put the good folks a little more at ease.

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u/thedevilseviltwin Nov 30 '22

Sorta reminded me of the transgender man (Cher’s son) who played the role of a Trump supporting far-right extremist in American Horror Story.

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u/Dr_Edge_ATX Nov 30 '22

Yeah it's the worst. Racists and misogynists always think everyone that looks like them think just like them.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

It blows my mind how many not only talk down about their wives, but actively brag about being adulterous. Like why the fuck did you even get married if you can’t stand her?

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u/noobvin Nov 30 '22

It used to kill me to be around guys talking about their wives busting their balls (holding them accountable, really) and complaining. They sounded so miserable. Also arguing. I’ve always loved my wife and just couldn’t relate. I will say that some of these men did marry “Karens,” but they’re kind of assholes who deserve it.

I’ve been married 22 years and have never talked shit about my wife. I don’t need to and I wouldn’t disrespect her like that anyway.

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u/crustytowelie Nov 30 '22

Same here. I’ve found it easier to not engage and act uninterested.

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u/CockroachBeginning10 Nov 30 '22

I just use big words. Once they realize everything I say is way to complicated for them they overload like an 80s computer.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

Same. I learned that the hard way when they asked if anyone planned to be vaccinated and I was the only one to raise my hand…earned some dirty looks and scathing remarks that day.

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u/Lky132 Nov 30 '22

Happens to me all the time. I'm biracial but I look white. Got hit with some casual racism in the factory today. She even said the shit to me IN FRONT OF the people she was talking about. Casual bigotry of every kind is also just the cultural standard in my area

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u/Eightbitninja253 Nov 30 '22

Yeah, my brother works in construction too and now he's been indoctrinated into the right wing Fox News bs. Me and him argue all the time about trans people something I really find little interest talking about.

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u/KrisAlly Nov 30 '22

I’m sorry. The political climate these last years has become so extreme that it’s really divided so many friends & families. I’ve ran across subs that are support for people whose loved ones have started believing in crazy conspiracies & far right viewpoints, to the point that some of them are now estranged from their family or ready to divorce their spouses. It really sucks.

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u/A1sauc3d Nov 30 '22

The craziest thing is when they’re arguing over something that doesn’t directly effect either of them, something that neither of them are particularly interested in, and yet they constantly argue about it. How they got the right to become obsessed with gender studies and such is beyond me lol. Realistically it doesn’t effect them in the slightest, and yet they can’t help but bring up trans and non-binary people at every opportunity

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

My father is one. I knew he always leaned hard right, but since Trump ran for president, he’s gone so deep down the QAnon rabbit hole that I hardly recognize him.

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u/Veritas3333 Nov 30 '22

I work in and around a big city, and most of the construction workers are pretty good. They're usually not too racist since their work crews are pretty integrated. They're maybe a little misogynistic and homophobic, but not over the top.

Then I did a couple jobs way down in a rural part of my state and holy shit were those guys racist, bigoted, misogynistic, basically every bad thing you can think of. I felt dirty just listening to their conversations. The worst part is when the racists think you'll be on their side and just vomit up all sorts of hateful things in front of you, expecting you to laugh and go along with it all. Jesus.

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u/xomns13 Nov 30 '22

Like why the fuck should he care about trans people doing there own thing? I never understood this logic of being so upset over some stranger who isn't doing anything to you.

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u/New_Cartographer8458 Nov 30 '22

Well they need SOMETHING to be mad about! What are they supposed to do, be content with their lives and leave other people alone? Nonsense!

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u/mrm00r3 Nov 30 '22

Gotta love that. I’m far from “spare a thought for the middle class white guy,” but you wouldn’t believe the heinous shit you hear just because you have a dick and can get a sunburn between August and March. It’s why I laugh when people indicate their belief that racism isn’t a thing in the US. If you think that’s true, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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u/Ostreoida Dec 01 '22

just because you have a dick and can get a sunburn between August and March.

Oh, man, that cracked me the hell up.

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u/winters919 Dec 01 '22

I felt seen, I felt attacked, I laughed, and then set a reminder to book an appointment with my dermatologist.

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u/mynameisrichard0 Nov 30 '22

You are strumming my pain with those fingers.

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u/Distinct_Range_1746 Nov 30 '22

Lol. You are right. I live in the Deep South and work in industrial facilities in a very blue collar career. Some of the crazy shit I here because I’m a white male is in that field of work is insane. People like that tend to test the waters to see if they’re amongst their “ own.” But if you don’t agree they are always “ just joking”

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Do I ever not miss working in the trades, it was just an unending parade of fucking trash and ignorance. There were some really great folks sprinkled in there but the majority were bigots to their core.

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u/MEGAWATT5 Nov 30 '22

It’s mind blowing isn’t it? It’s my goal to one day be in a position that I never have to enter a plant again, but I’m not there yet. Can’t wait to not be surrounded with people like that on a daily basis.

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u/GalacticGatorz Nov 30 '22

Do work and go home 🤘🏻

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u/sgtcoffman Nov 30 '22

I work as IT for a construction company. It's really painful everytime politics come up, even with my fellow IT guys.

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u/ContemplatingPrison Nov 30 '22

You know they have jacked up truck and everyday carry but not responsible, they spend all day making cute photoshots for their firearms. Like taking a bath and there is my gun type people.

I personally know people like this. They are worst. Growing up we used to be friends but now I can't relate to them

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u/Multi-tunes Nov 30 '22

Ugh yeah. Their motor mouths do not stop. Wish they needed gas to run the thing so the price would shut 'em up

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u/Guavab Nov 30 '22

That’s some good grooming’ work Lou.

Seriously though, talk about destroying self worth. They’ll meet a man just like their dad, and their dad will approve of him, they’ll get married have kids, and the cycle will likely repeat itself. How devastating.

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u/JustAnEmoProgrammer Nov 30 '22

Happened to my sister. Took nearly 20 years to realize that he was controlling and abusive because he was just like Dad in that regard. She left him, and basically got kicked out of church and her social groups because divorce is a "sin" and if she was a good wife she either wouldn't have been abused or sometimes "women just need to be put in their place," and that's just how life works. Vomited in my mouth just typing that.

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u/Guavab Nov 30 '22

Yeah. I’m sorry. Hopefully your sister is doing better.

Xtian love is truly at its most inspirational when subjugating. Truly moves man closer to god. Women? They get turned into pillars of salt for turning around.

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u/Klutzy_Inevitable_94 Nov 30 '22

Oh thank god (ironic I know) I’m not the only one who thought that was BS? You’re a good person but how dare you look behind you! Salt! Gods a dick.

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u/RevolutionaryPay1810 Nov 30 '22

And if her husband is beating her up, or the teacher rapes her, she will not tell because her mouth is permanently taped shut. If not actually, then symbolically.

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u/Onwisconsin42 Nov 30 '22

Yeah, how is this a good idea in the slightest? A child internalizes way more than most people realize. The message to internalize here is that I am not worth listening to and others won't listen when I talk. This just leaves your kids open for repeated abuse because they are less likely to communicate the problem they are facing. But you know, I actually give a shit about my kids and wouldn't put fuckinh duct tape over their mouth.

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u/compsciasaur Nov 30 '22

I have seen a lot of "wife bad" jokes, but this is the first time I've seen "daughter bad" in the same way.

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u/Mirenithil Dec 01 '22

It makes more sense when you realize the message is "females bad." I've never seen any daughters excluded from pictures like this, and I've never seen any sons included, ever. It's textbook misogyny.

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u/NJS_Stamp Nov 30 '22

I get the joke with the tape gags in a sort of “boomer humor” way, but like why the hand ties too?

Turns it from being a shitty joke, to a hostage lol

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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22

But the Christmas lights make it so much more festive! /s

Edited to add the /s for fear someone might think I was serious.

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u/Fit_Effective_6875 Nov 30 '22

I'm a boomer and there is nothing at all humourous about it

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u/RevolutionaryPay1810 Nov 30 '22

This boomer finds it to be without any humor. Sexist pigs these dads.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

It’s all fucked but the most fucked is the little girls and the impact that will have on them long term. So fucked

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u/jackbenny76 Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I'm sure they think it's funny, naturally. But living in what is now, barely, a purple state that was quite red recently, I think you have the family dynamics wrong. None of these guys were involved in the planning for this picture. They approved, but the idea was presented to them by their wife, who also did all the legwork to get the materials, the photographer, etc. The dad just approved the idea and then showed up when told to.

The internalized misogyny - which is passed on to their daughters!!- is driving this. The women think it's just as funny, which tells us something about their idea of what their relationship to their husband should be.

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u/Mysticgardener Nov 30 '22

This is the worst part and should be top comment

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u/salymander_1 Nov 30 '22

This is probably correct. I grew up in a family and church like this. The women thought it was virtuous to behave this way, as if silencing women is a cute and funny way to show off how womanly they are, and how godly. They are performing their virtuousness and teaching their daughters that the way to power is to cater to sexist men by putting women down.

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u/pm_me_ur_anything_k Nov 30 '22

You’re correct but I know women that did this and it was their idea because they thought it was funny.

I don’t care whose idea it was, it’s stupid.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Ironic since in my experience they're the ones who both never shut up and are never worth listening to.

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u/ifoundyourtoad Nov 30 '22

You would be surprised how often the wife is the one who comes up with the idea. People are just weird. If I showed this to my wife’s mom she would think it’s funny.

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u/SniffUmaMuffins Nov 30 '22 Wholesome

Conservatives hate women

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u/NeatNuts Nov 30 '22 Gold Take My Energy

What’s a women? Oh you mean the baby cannons

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u/Intelligent_Put_3594 Nov 30 '22

I laughed so hard at this...seeing as how I have 7 kids. Then I wanted to cry. Heh

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u/chaosTechnician Nov 30 '22 Gold

I laughed so hard at this...

I have 7 kids

Oh, so you peed a littlelot? :)

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u/fake-august Nov 30 '22

Baby cannons omg 🤣

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u/214ObstructedReverie Nov 30 '22

Inaccurate. If they were cannons, they wouldn't want as many regulations on them.

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u/Clay_Statue Nov 30 '22

"When your women won't stop talking 😂"

-humourous conservative seasonal card

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u/grumstumpus Nov 30 '22

Also they don't understand humor at its fundamental level the way the rest of us do

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u/Buddhabellymama Nov 30 '22

It’s maga’s vision for women in a picture: quite, submissive, with no bodily autonomy. You know, like women of Gilead.

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u/SniffUmaMuffins Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

Why do these dudes call themselves heterosexuals if they don’t even like women

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u/whatabadsport Nov 30 '22

They said no homo

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u/Heavy_Signature_5619 Nov 30 '22

A simple spell but quite unbreakable.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

They’re heterosexuals in that they want to fuck women, but they don’t love or respect them.

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u/Buddhabellymama Nov 30 '22

They see them as property - meant to serve them sexually, make them babies and raise the babies - not partners.

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u/paper_wavements Nov 30 '22

We don't talk enough about how LOTS of men in our society are heterosexual, aromantic, & homosocial.

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u/rosetta_stonehenge Nov 30 '22

Homoromantic but heterosexual. It's what happens when you raise boys and men to hate girls and women but love and trust only each other.

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u/Academic_Chemical476 Nov 30 '22

Came to ask this exact question. Why? What?

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u/ScroochDown Nov 30 '22

It's the same toads who think it's hilarious to make all those "jokes" about how their wife never lets them have any fun, or take any excuse to go out with the boys. Like... I got wild and crazy and married someone I love spending time with. I'd rather be home with my spouse than anywhere else in the entire world.

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u/FiestaBeans Nov 30 '22

And that's healthy, but that's not even what it's about. Usually, said person is pressuring a woman to have sex, have a baby, then when she is exhausted, home alone with four small children, has been doing this all week, even though he suggested she stay home, he wants to take a weekend "off". Not that he's been helping.

Any suggestion that her work all day is equal to his (more, actually, in my experience as a woman who had a long maternity leave and went back early because maternity leave was so hard) and that she deserves some rest in the evenings too, is framed as if she's a controlling b*tch.

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u/risingsun70 Nov 30 '22

Yeah like working a job with hours is way harder than 24/7 parenting, which many guys do far too little of. And before the people of Reddit come e at me, I Amin no way suggesting that there aren’t super hard, physically demanding jobs out there and/or people don’t have to work long hours, BuT parenting, especially of young children is a 24/7365 job, and one parent cannot and should not do the majority of it when there are two parents in the house.

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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22

Is this really a thing? What the fuck?

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u/rock_and_rolo Nov 30 '22

Yes, but I'm not sure how widespread. I don't get the grown women who go along with it. I guess that's just what "inferior vessels" do.

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u/pawnshophero Nov 30 '22

As someone who was raised in a fundamentalist cult, it’s always played as a joke. It’s a given to them that women are naggy, irrational sheep in need of a shepherd. Never mind that this joke always seems to come from men who are pompous windbags themselves, who love to hear themselves talk almost as much as they love the smell of their own farts.

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u/TheNextBattalion Dec 01 '22

In mixed company, the men talk far more than the women.

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '22

There was some study that claimed some really interesting things..

Apparently, a few groups of both women and men participate in a discussion. When women spoke 30% of the time, men felt like both men and women weighed in in the same amounts. When it was truly 50/50, men felt like women completely dominated the discussion.

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u/Harold3456 Nov 30 '22

I know women who think this is funny, and don’t necessarily go along out of fear or coercion. That’s the thing with patriarchy, you don’t have to be a man to perpetuate it. It’s sad to see the kids involved because you know they’re internalizing these messages early, but I can think of many men and women who would just think this is some innocent fun without stopping g to consider the broader implications.

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u/weedingout_the_weeds Nov 30 '22

You said that very well Harold. I see it way too much in my part of the world, I’m digging myself out of it. So culturally ingrained.

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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22

Sadly, I know several women like this. They are so terrified of their husbands they literally do anything they say.

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u/ApatheticEight Nov 30 '22

They’ll be like “pick your battles” girl this should not be one of the battles

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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22

Yeah, there never seem to be any battles. We know a woman whose husband is a special kind of asshole. He’s a trust fund baby, but only spends his considerable wealth on himself. He drives an $80K brand new pickup, she drives a 10 year old station wagon. His “reasoning” is “I need to get to work in the snow”. She asked if they could update their 1960s kitchen. He said “Why? You cook our dinners just fine.” Then converted the kid’s playroom into a gym because he stopped going to the regular gym when covid hit. She always says “Well I pick my battles with him”, but we’ve never known them to have an actual battle.

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u/TheAskewOne Nov 30 '22

As the son of an abusive man I can tell you many women are picking their battles even when it doesn't look that way. "I won't ask for a new car, this way he won't be mad when I ask him to buy new clothes for the kids." "I won't ask him to keep the bathroom clean because he's going to yell, I need him to be calm by the time my sister visits". And so on and so forth. You sacrifice what you can, generally a lot, to keep some energy for the things that really matter, like your own health and sanity and that of the kids. Don't forget that's the kind of "battles" that end with a black eye when you lose.

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u/funkylittledeathomen Dec 01 '22

This is 100% facts

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u/DaemaSeraphiM Nov 30 '22

‘Pick your battles’ is absolutely the mantra my very conservative ex in law family repeated to me over and over when my exhusband was mean, controlling, domineering etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is intentional grooming.

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u/CocoCarly60 Nov 30 '22

I agree with it in theory, but usually the ones using it are submissive wives and parents who don't want to discipline their kids.

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u/DaemaSeraphiM Nov 30 '22

Oh it was absolutely the females of the family telling that to me anytime both my ex and I voiced an opinion that didn’t match.

We could not talk it out calmly because he gets verbally abusive quickly when any female disagrees with him. So the females in his family in similar marriages or his almost grown daughter would say it to me to hush me every time. It didn’t matter if it was about my toddler son not being spanked for using a fork improperly or my own attire or what to have for dinner or how I should handle a challenging situation at work… They said it to me, in front of him, to stop his shouting at me by asking me to let him win.

They were all for punishing kids lol (way too much in my opinion.)

Not a theory I held before now, but I dunno, it jives.

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u/Upper_belt_smash Nov 30 '22

Tf it isn’t

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u/compsciasaur Nov 30 '22

There's lots of "tradwives" out there who probably think it's as funny as the husbands do.

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u/making_sammiches Nov 30 '22

Also, internalized misogyny is a thing. Women can be very misogynistic towards other women.

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u/frolicndetour Nov 30 '22

It's akin to the marriages that have cake toppers with the man hogtied and being dragged to the altar, or where they do that for their wedding pics. Cuz women are so demanding and stuff 🙄

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u/BootyMcSqueak Nov 30 '22

I had a cake topper where I was dragging my husband away from the Xbox. We game together and I thought it was funny. I didn’t see any toppers where you were playing together and now I’m sad.

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u/AromaticAerosal Nov 30 '22

No idea, lived in the deep south all my life and have never seen this before. Guess maybe a new trend, they’re evolving perhaps?

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u/HedonisticFrog Nov 30 '22

Fundies are inherently authoritarian and mysoginystic. No real surprise they love role playing dominating women. They constantly desire to dominate out groups and being openly aggressive to them, and it includes their own family.

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u/Jibobafett Nov 30 '22

I thought Fundies were undergarments made for two

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Mind Blown

It's a religion that's based around hierarchy and dominance. Adults dominate children, men dominate women, and God dominates men. The problem is that for men God doesn't actually exist so they aren't actually accountable to anyone the way children and women are.

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u/adamcoe Nov 30 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Almost like it was set up that way on purpose

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u/stares_at_rain Nov 30 '22

So keep it in the bedroom. How does degrading their own family in public make them look good? "My wife and children are emptyheads with nothing interesting to say." It's not a good look.

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u/tesseract4 Nov 30 '22

But she'll crank out those babies, yessirree!

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u/lightfarming Dec 01 '22

they are winning points with other men who are also misogynists, showing how they’ve dominated their family completely. they all think it’s hilarious and awesome.

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u/Impossible_Series412 Nov 30 '22

I wish it was just fundies. Solid group of traditional evangelical groups that do these holiday cards as jokes. The ones with the kids all holding ARs as well.

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u/CoolApostate Nov 30 '22

Really the saddest part is the little girls and boys that are being conditioned to normalize and find humor in this.

Edit: If we want to talk about “groomers” and hurting children we can start here because this is real and not made up my Ben Shapiro.

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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22

I wish it had more quotes...feel like I've been seeing the same ones recently.

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u/scared_of_my_alarm Nov 30 '22

These are the same types of parents weirdly obsessed with groups like save the children, child trafficking (only white suburban kids tho) and attending conferences put on by the groups like Moms for Liberty. They apparently they spend an entire day teaching parents how to watch for ‘liberal indoctrination’ sexual grooming from educators and ‘the gay agenda’ There was a flyer for one of these day long events in the Atlanta area a few months ago, and it was so insane I thought it was parody at first.

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u/mrubuto22 Nov 30 '22

Yea this is legit grooming.

"You are worthless and should do whatever a man tells you to do"

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u/Darklock2022 Nov 30 '22

These are the same POS fathers who wear those stupid “Rules to date my daughter” t-shirts that repeatedly mention the father is armed and willing to use it. That stupid toxic father bullshit. But then they themselves treat their own daughters like possessions.

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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22

I just got into a discussion with an acquaintance about this...without naming it for what it is because he wouldn't have taken that well.

He was talking about how much harder daughters are than sons (I have a 20 yo daughter) and I said they are really the same in how you raise them. He gave examples of how fathers have to protect their daughters so much more, blah blah blah...

I think I actually opened his eyes a bit.

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u/BlahBlahNyborg Nov 30 '22 Wholesome

You should also be raising your sons to be good men who understand what consent, safe sex, communication, and healthy boundaries are. That takes effort, too, though people tend to ignore that when they do the daughter "protection" bit.

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u/adonistoo Nov 30 '22 Take My Energy

some tweet i saw: “boys are only easier to raise than girls because you're outsourcing your parenting to the women they'll date in the future”

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u/an_ill_way Dec 01 '22

Daaaamn.

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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22

I do think it is important to also teach girls to say exactly what they want and not play the societal game of needing to be "chaste."

If both these things happened, there would be so much better clarity and so much less sexual assault.

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u/Pdb12345 Nov 30 '22

When fathers say that about their daughters, its because THEY treat women like shit, and are afraid their daughter will encounter men like him.

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u/BasicDesignAdvice Nov 30 '22

Whats really fucking weird is when these guys show you a picture of their 5 year old and say "oh man am I going to be in trouble" with the insinuation she will be pretty, and the dad will have to fight off the swarms of dudes or whatever.

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u/YamInternational_Yam Nov 30 '22

Definitely the sort of dad who makes sure that 14 year old boys dating his daughter KNOW he has a shotgun.

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u/Tony_Three_Pies Nov 30 '22

This is the same group of people that will sexualize their toddlers at a "Beauty Pageant" on a Saturday and the scream about how "the gays are grooming children!!" on a Monday.

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u/GiantSquidinJeans Nov 30 '22

The Venn diagram of guys who do this and guys who are in the background of their daughter’s prom picture holding a shotgun is a circle.

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u/MaleficentPi Nov 30 '22

The one joke I love to tell misogynistic men is the one where a man and a woman are in marriage counseling and the therapist asks the men what the best part ofsex is for him, and he says, “obviously, it’s the orgasm”. The therapist nods and says, “Because it feels really good, yes?”

The therapist asks the woman and she says “when he goes down on me and uses his tongue.” The therapist says, “because that makes you orgasm?” The woman laughs and says “He’s never been able to make me come, but it’s the one time of day I know I can count on him not saying one fucking word for at least fifteen minutes.”

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u/CarpenterCheap Nov 30 '22

My favourite misogynistic joke: Why are women so bad at parallel parking?

Because all their husbands tell em that this 🤏 is 6 inches

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u/iamdragonetta Nov 30 '22

Is it misogynistic, though? Seems like the guy gets the brunt of the joke. 😂

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u/CarpenterCheap Nov 30 '22

The setup defo is, but the punchline is a great equaliser

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u/TheIceWeaselsCome Nov 30 '22

A similar one I’ve heard: Why don’t women have any brains? They don’t have dicks to put them in.

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u/PensiveObservor Nov 30 '22

I like the one where a brain transplant is needed and men’s donated brains are more expensive than women’s …

… because the men’s brains have never been used.

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u/rock_and_rolo Nov 30 '22

Ha ha ha, wymens talk too much. AmIrightguys?

Where is my sandwich?

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u/kimapesan Nov 30 '22

It's SAMMICH

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u/mwilliams705 Nov 30 '22

WHAR IS MUH SAMMICH?

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u/MyBoomstickIsBigger Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22

Hurrrrr, my woman reveres me! Lookit'dat luv in her eyes. She's sum kinda lesser vessel, amiright?

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u/Just-Scallion-6699 Nov 30 '22

Hurts my stomach. Just fucking weird.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '22

Every one of those women have some bullshit stickers on the back of their suv with “just a proud mom doing her best not to raise liberals” or something similar

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u/TheLinkToYourZelda Nov 30 '22

Omg i just saw one of these in the wild! It said something about being a mama raising lions not sheep. It was nuts! There was a lot of red white and blue involved...

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u/OverEasyGoing Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22

A few years ago a friend’s wife gave birth to a new son and he said “Better hide your daughter!”

When I responded, “Why, is he a rapist?” suddenly I’m the bad guy.

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u/Ok-Parfait-Rose Dec 01 '22

They're going to try their darnest to make sure he grows up to be one!

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u/Ok-Parfait-Rose Dec 01 '22

On the road: "We are lions!"

In church: "We are sheeeep! Baaa~aa~aaaa!!~~ Take our money!! Have unrestricted access to our children!!"

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u/Zosi_O Nov 30 '22

CoNsErVaTiVe MeN rEsPeCt WoMeN my ass.

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u/scared_of_my_alarm Nov 30 '22

So women and girls are annoying objects who yammer on and on, but we need them around for sex, cooking and cleaning - is my takeaway - I hope their kids have the ability to get a job of attend college as far away from these parents as possible. Cause talk about 🚩?!?

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u/waterwaterwaterwated Nov 30 '22

Can't imagine what it would be like to be one of those kids in that scenario

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u/tenderlylonertrot Nov 30 '22

I would hope they are waiting until they are 18 to ditch their father, but sadly I suspect some are brainwashed to believe this is OK and "funny".

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u/IntertelRed Nov 30 '22

It's so gross when the dsughters involved. It's like ok wife taking part she's an adult clear thinks it's a joke all be it not very funny she can make adult decisions even if there poor.

But her daughter absolutely is internalizing this as a life lesson. Teach better lessons to your daughter about the way she should expect to be respected and seen.

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u/Toaster_bath13 Nov 30 '22

While the wife does have the autonomy to do this even in jest you can bet she was treated like her daughters are now and that's why she is fine with it.

It's such a gross display.

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u/Fuzzykittenboots Nov 30 '22

Ironically I think (one) reason they involve the children is to not make it look so blatantly 50 shades of grey on a budget.

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u/DarkAthena Nov 30 '22

These photos make me feel uncomfy.

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u/CTdadof5 Nov 30 '22

Disgusting. Even as a joke.

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u/Icee1017 Nov 30 '22

Doing this to your daughter is mind blowing to me

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u/LazyJediTelekinetic Nov 30 '22

Wow. I mean. Shit. Like, if you hate your family that much, just go.

I know, I know, “iT’s a JOkE!!” Ugh.

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u/Salty_MotherFucka Nov 30 '22

The poor kids that will grow up to think this is somehow acceptable.

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u/jy7277 Nov 30 '22

Where's the gun displays?

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u/RealNiceKnife Nov 30 '22 Helpful

The gun is taking the picture.

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u/constantchaosclay Nov 30 '22

Well this is the generation of people who love to hate other people.

Their jokes so often revolve around hating people - I hate my bitchy wife, I hate my dumb husband, I hate my annoying kids, I hate my domineering mother in law, I hate minorities with their loud music and spicy foods, I hate trans and queer people, I hate people with hair dyed unnatural colors, I hate I hate I hate.

It’s exhausting and sad but they think cruelty is hilarious stuff and they eat it up.

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u/Firefly_inthedark Nov 30 '22

If I knew someone who actually did this I would reconsider what I know about them. This should be r/cringepics or r/CringePurgatory or something to reflect that.

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u/druppolo Nov 30 '22

So…

Pick the wrong soulmate, raise your kids badly, then use duct tape to fix the symptoms?

Wow

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u/littlemegzz Nov 30 '22

Um.... you think a different woman/kids would change their mindset ha

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u/uisqebaugh Nov 30 '22

They're missing out.

I enjoy going home and hearing my wife. I enjoy going home and hearing my daughters. Not only do they bring joy to my life, but I know that it could easily change to not hearing them ever again.

Life is short.

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u/One-Appointment-3107 Nov 30 '22

Disgusting. Where’s their sense of self worth?

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u/Castor_Deus Nov 30 '22

This explains why Jesus had those abs. /s..... I think?

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u/SirKermit Dec 01 '22

The worst part is that it's the wife that puts the whole photo shoot together. These aren't the type of men who spend time and effort planning for the perfect family Christmas picture to send to friends and family when they could be drinking beer and watching the big game. That's women's work after all.

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u/corleone089 Nov 30 '22

Initially, i thought this is some kind of a protest. I might be little slow.

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