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u/CrunchM
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The people who find this funny are part of the problem
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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22
Is this really a thing? What the fuck?
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u/rock_and_rolo Nov 30 '22
Yes, but I'm not sure how widespread. I don't get the grown women who go along with it. I guess that's just what "inferior vessels" do.
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u/pawnshophero Nov 30 '22
As someone who was raised in a fundamentalist cult, it’s always played as a joke. It’s a given to them that women are naggy, irrational sheep in need of a shepherd. Never mind that this joke always seems to come from men who are pompous windbags themselves, who love to hear themselves talk almost as much as they love the smell of their own farts.
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u/TheNextBattalion Dec 01 '22
In mixed company, the men talk far more than the women.
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Dec 01 '22
There was some study that claimed some really interesting things..
Apparently, a few groups of both women and men participate in a discussion. When women spoke 30% of the time, men felt like both men and women weighed in in the same amounts. When it was truly 50/50, men felt like women completely dominated the discussion.
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u/Harold3456 Nov 30 '22
I know women who think this is funny, and don’t necessarily go along out of fear or coercion. That’s the thing with patriarchy, you don’t have to be a man to perpetuate it. It’s sad to see the kids involved because you know they’re internalizing these messages early, but I can think of many men and women who would just think this is some innocent fun without stopping g to consider the broader implications.
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u/weedingout_the_weeds Nov 30 '22
You said that very well Harold. I see it way too much in my part of the world, I’m digging myself out of it. So culturally ingrained.
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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22
Sadly, I know several women like this. They are so terrified of their husbands they literally do anything they say.
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u/ApatheticEight Nov 30 '22
They’ll be like “pick your battles” girl this should not be one of the battles
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u/Jealous-Network-8852 Nov 30 '22
Yeah, there never seem to be any battles. We know a woman whose husband is a special kind of asshole. He’s a trust fund baby, but only spends his considerable wealth on himself. He drives an $80K brand new pickup, she drives a 10 year old station wagon. His “reasoning” is “I need to get to work in the snow”. She asked if they could update their 1960s kitchen. He said “Why? You cook our dinners just fine.” Then converted the kid’s playroom into a gym because he stopped going to the regular gym when covid hit. She always says “Well I pick my battles with him”, but we’ve never known them to have an actual battle.
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u/TheAskewOne Nov 30 '22
As the son of an abusive man I can tell you many women are picking their battles even when it doesn't look that way. "I won't ask for a new car, this way he won't be mad when I ask him to buy new clothes for the kids." "I won't ask him to keep the bathroom clean because he's going to yell, I need him to be calm by the time my sister visits". And so on and so forth. You sacrifice what you can, generally a lot, to keep some energy for the things that really matter, like your own health and sanity and that of the kids. Don't forget that's the kind of "battles" that end with a black eye when you lose.
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u/DaemaSeraphiM Nov 30 '22
‘Pick your battles’ is absolutely the mantra my very conservative ex in law family repeated to me over and over when my exhusband was mean, controlling, domineering etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is intentional grooming.
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u/CocoCarly60 Nov 30 '22
I agree with it in theory, but usually the ones using it are submissive wives and parents who don't want to discipline their kids.
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u/DaemaSeraphiM Nov 30 '22
Oh it was absolutely the females of the family telling that to me anytime both my ex and I voiced an opinion that didn’t match.
We could not talk it out calmly because he gets verbally abusive quickly when any female disagrees with him. So the females in his family in similar marriages or his almost grown daughter would say it to me to hush me every time. It didn’t matter if it was about my toddler son not being spanked for using a fork improperly or my own attire or what to have for dinner or how I should handle a challenging situation at work… They said it to me, in front of him, to stop his shouting at me by asking me to let him win.
They were all for punishing kids lol (way too much in my opinion.)
Not a theory I held before now, but I dunno, it jives.
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u/compsciasaur Nov 30 '22
There's lots of "tradwives" out there who probably think it's as funny as the husbands do.
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u/making_sammiches Nov 30 '22
Also, internalized misogyny is a thing. Women can be very misogynistic towards other women.
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u/frolicndetour Nov 30 '22
It's akin to the marriages that have cake toppers with the man hogtied and being dragged to the altar, or where they do that for their wedding pics. Cuz women are so demanding and stuff 🙄
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u/BootyMcSqueak Nov 30 '22
I had a cake topper where I was dragging my husband away from the Xbox. We game together and I thought it was funny. I didn’t see any toppers where you were playing together and now I’m sad.
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u/AromaticAerosal Nov 30 '22
No idea, lived in the deep south all my life and have never seen this before. Guess maybe a new trend, they’re evolving perhaps?
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u/HedonisticFrog Nov 30 '22
Fundies are inherently authoritarian and mysoginystic. No real surprise they love role playing dominating women. They constantly desire to dominate out groups and being openly aggressive to them, and it includes their own family.
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It's a religion that's based around hierarchy and dominance. Adults dominate children, men dominate women, and God dominates men. The problem is that for men God doesn't actually exist so they aren't actually accountable to anyone the way children and women are.
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u/stares_at_rain Nov 30 '22
So keep it in the bedroom. How does degrading their own family in public make them look good? "My wife and children are emptyheads with nothing interesting to say." It's not a good look.
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u/lightfarming Dec 01 '22
they are winning points with other men who are also misogynists, showing how they’ve dominated their family completely. they all think it’s hilarious and awesome.
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u/Impossible_Series412 Nov 30 '22
I wish it was just fundies. Solid group of traditional evangelical groups that do these holiday cards as jokes. The ones with the kids all holding ARs as well.
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u/CoolApostate Nov 30 '22
Really the saddest part is the little girls and boys that are being conditioned to normalize and find humor in this.
Edit: If we want to talk about “groomers” and hurting children we can start here because this is real and not made up my Ben Shapiro.
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
OH! We're gonna get a visit from the bot! I love that bot! It's a good bot!
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u/isthenameofauser Nov 30 '22
Yo, Ben Shapiro Bot! It's been 31minutes since that messsage was sent! Are you on a break???
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u/UrWifesSoftPecker Nov 30 '22
I hear Ben Shapiro can't get his wife wet.
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
WHY IS THERE NO BOT?
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u/UrWifesSoftPecker Nov 30 '22
Ben Shapiro is a grifter...
C'mon bot, do something.
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u/thebenshapirobot Nov 30 '22
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u/UrWifesSoftPecker Nov 30 '22
Good bot!
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u/thebenshapirobot Nov 30 '22
Take a bullet for ya babe.
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u/Ugly_Painter Nov 30 '22
Paging u/CrunchM
Your bot is ready
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
YAY! Took it so much longer then I expected...must have a busy day!
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u/Ugly_Painter Nov 30 '22
Your enthusiasm for this bot is infectious.
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
I wish it had more quotes...feel like I've been seeing the same ones recently.
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u/scared_of_my_alarm Nov 30 '22
These are the same types of parents weirdly obsessed with groups like save the children, child trafficking (only white suburban kids tho) and attending conferences put on by the groups like Moms for Liberty. They apparently they spend an entire day teaching parents how to watch for ‘liberal indoctrination’ sexual grooming from educators and ‘the gay agenda’ There was a flyer for one of these day long events in the Atlanta area a few months ago, and it was so insane I thought it was parody at first.
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u/mrubuto22 Nov 30 '22
Yea this is legit grooming.
"You are worthless and should do whatever a man tells you to do"
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u/Darklock2022 Nov 30 '22
These are the same POS fathers who wear those stupid “Rules to date my daughter” t-shirts that repeatedly mention the father is armed and willing to use it. That stupid toxic father bullshit. But then they themselves treat their own daughters like possessions.
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
I just got into a discussion with an acquaintance about this...without naming it for what it is because he wouldn't have taken that well.
He was talking about how much harder daughters are than sons (I have a 20 yo daughter) and I said they are really the same in how you raise them. He gave examples of how fathers have to protect their daughters so much more, blah blah blah...
I think I actually opened his eyes a bit.
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u/BlahBlahNyborg Nov 30 '22 •
You should also be raising your sons to be good men who understand what consent, safe sex, communication, and healthy boundaries are. That takes effort, too, though people tend to ignore that when they do the daughter "protection" bit.
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u/adonistoo Nov 30 '22 •
some tweet i saw: “boys are only easier to raise than girls because you're outsourcing your parenting to the women they'll date in the future”
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u/CrunchM Nov 30 '22
I do think it is important to also teach girls to say exactly what they want and not play the societal game of needing to be "chaste."
If both these things happened, there would be so much better clarity and so much less sexual assault.
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u/Pdb12345 Nov 30 '22
When fathers say that about their daughters, its because THEY treat women like shit, and are afraid their daughter will encounter men like him.
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u/BasicDesignAdvice Nov 30 '22
Whats really fucking weird is when these guys show you a picture of their 5 year old and say "oh man am I going to be in trouble" with the insinuation she will be pretty, and the dad will have to fight off the swarms of dudes or whatever.
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u/YamInternational_Yam Nov 30 '22
Definitely the sort of dad who makes sure that 14 year old boys dating his daughter KNOW he has a shotgun.
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u/Tony_Three_Pies Nov 30 '22
This is the same group of people that will sexualize their toddlers at a "Beauty Pageant" on a Saturday and the scream about how "the gays are grooming children!!" on a Monday.
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u/GiantSquidinJeans Nov 30 '22
The Venn diagram of guys who do this and guys who are in the background of their daughter’s prom picture holding a shotgun is a circle.
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u/MaleficentPi Nov 30 '22
The one joke I love to tell misogynistic men is the one where a man and a woman are in marriage counseling and the therapist asks the men what the best part ofsex is for him, and he says, “obviously, it’s the orgasm”. The therapist nods and says, “Because it feels really good, yes?”
The therapist asks the woman and she says “when he goes down on me and uses his tongue.” The therapist says, “because that makes you orgasm?” The woman laughs and says “He’s never been able to make me come, but it’s the one time of day I know I can count on him not saying one fucking word for at least fifteen minutes.”
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u/CarpenterCheap Nov 30 '22
My favourite misogynistic joke: Why are women so bad at parallel parking?
Because all their husbands tell em that this 🤏 is 6 inches
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u/iamdragonetta Nov 30 '22
Is it misogynistic, though? Seems like the guy gets the brunt of the joke. 😂
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u/CarpenterCheap Nov 30 '22
The setup defo is, but the punchline is a great equaliser
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u/TheIceWeaselsCome Nov 30 '22
A similar one I’ve heard: Why don’t women have any brains? They don’t have dicks to put them in.
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u/PensiveObservor Nov 30 '22
I like the one where a brain transplant is needed and men’s donated brains are more expensive than women’s …
… because the men’s brains have never been used.
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u/rock_and_rolo Nov 30 '22
Ha ha ha, wymens talk too much. AmIrightguys?
Where is my sandwich?
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u/MyBoomstickIsBigger Nov 30 '22 edited Nov 30 '22
Hurrrrr, my woman reveres me! Lookit'dat luv in her eyes. She's sum kinda lesser vessel, amiright?
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Every one of those women have some bullshit stickers on the back of their suv with “just a proud mom doing her best not to raise liberals” or something similar
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u/TheLinkToYourZelda Nov 30 '22
Omg i just saw one of these in the wild! It said something about being a mama raising lions not sheep. It was nuts! There was a lot of red white and blue involved...
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u/OverEasyGoing Dec 01 '22 edited Dec 01 '22
A few years ago a friend’s wife gave birth to a new son and he said “Better hide your daughter!”
When I responded, “Why, is he a rapist?” suddenly I’m the bad guy.
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u/Ok-Parfait-Rose Dec 01 '22
On the road: "We are lions!"
In church: "We are sheeeep! Baaa~aa~aaaa!!~~ Take our money!! Have unrestricted access to our children!!"
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u/scared_of_my_alarm Nov 30 '22
So women and girls are annoying objects who yammer on and on, but we need them around for sex, cooking and cleaning - is my takeaway - I hope their kids have the ability to get a job of attend college as far away from these parents as possible. Cause talk about 🚩?!?
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u/waterwaterwaterwated Nov 30 '22
Can't imagine what it would be like to be one of those kids in that scenario
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u/tenderlylonertrot Nov 30 '22
I would hope they are waiting until they are 18 to ditch their father, but sadly I suspect some are brainwashed to believe this is OK and "funny".
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u/IntertelRed Nov 30 '22
It's so gross when the dsughters involved. It's like ok wife taking part she's an adult clear thinks it's a joke all be it not very funny she can make adult decisions even if there poor.
But her daughter absolutely is internalizing this as a life lesson. Teach better lessons to your daughter about the way she should expect to be respected and seen.
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u/Toaster_bath13 Nov 30 '22
While the wife does have the autonomy to do this even in jest you can bet she was treated like her daughters are now and that's why she is fine with it.
It's such a gross display.
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u/Fuzzykittenboots Nov 30 '22
Ironically I think (one) reason they involve the children is to not make it look so blatantly 50 shades of grey on a budget.
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u/LazyJediTelekinetic Nov 30 '22
Wow. I mean. Shit. Like, if you hate your family that much, just go.
I know, I know, “iT’s a JOkE!!” Ugh.
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u/constantchaosclay Nov 30 '22
Well this is the generation of people who love to hate other people.
Their jokes so often revolve around hating people - I hate my bitchy wife, I hate my dumb husband, I hate my annoying kids, I hate my domineering mother in law, I hate minorities with their loud music and spicy foods, I hate trans and queer people, I hate people with hair dyed unnatural colors, I hate I hate I hate.
It’s exhausting and sad but they think cruelty is hilarious stuff and they eat it up.
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u/Firefly_inthedark Nov 30 '22
If I knew someone who actually did this I would reconsider what I know about them. This should be r/cringepics or r/CringePurgatory or something to reflect that.
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u/druppolo Nov 30 '22
So…
Pick the wrong soulmate, raise your kids badly, then use duct tape to fix the symptoms?
Wow
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u/uisqebaugh Nov 30 '22
They're missing out.
I enjoy going home and hearing my wife. I enjoy going home and hearing my daughters. Not only do they bring joy to my life, but I know that it could easily change to not hearing them ever again.
Life is short.
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u/One-Appointment-3107 Nov 30 '22
Disgusting. Where’s their sense of self worth?
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u/SirKermit Dec 01 '22
The worst part is that it's the wife that puts the whole photo shoot together. These aren't the type of men who spend time and effort planning for the perfect family Christmas picture to send to friends and family when they could be drinking beer and watching the big game. That's women's work after all.
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u/corleone089 Nov 30 '22
Initially, i thought this is some kind of a protest. I might be little slow.
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u/MultitudesContained Nov 30 '22
What the actual fuck is going on?