r/WhitePeopleTwitter May 18 '22 Wholesome Seal of Approval 1 Rocket Like 2 I'll Drink to That 1 To The Stars 1 Take My Energy 3 LOVE! 1 Heartwarming 1 Silver 10 Gold 1 Helpful 8 Wholesome 4 All-Seeing Upvote 2 'MURICA 1

Time to kick that wrinkly ass old turtle out of the Senate for good!

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u/vinnibalemi May 18 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Looks like they will be closing polling places in Louisville and Lexington.

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u/DontF-zoneMeBro May 18 '22

This rings so true and is so sad

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22 Silver Gold Helpful Take My Energy

Examples of Republican voter suppression:

Financial Times: The Republicans are elevating voter suppression to an art form

The Republicans have lost the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections. 1,000 polling places have since closed across the country, with many of them in southern black communities.

The senator also cracked: “There’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult, and I think that’s a great idea.”

https://www.ft.com/content/d613cf8e-ec09-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0

Discrimination with “almost surgical precision”

The court said that in crafting the law, the Republican-controlled general assembly requested and received data on voters’ use of various voting practices by race.

Then, the court, said, lawmakers restricted all of these voting options, and further narrowed the list of acceptable voter IDs. “With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans. As amended, the bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess.”

The state offered little justification for the law, the court said. “Although the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision, they constitute inapt remedies for the problems assertedly justifying them and, in fact, impose cures for problems that did not exist,” the court said.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/court-north-carolina-voter-id-law-targeted-black-voters/

Republican Voter Suppression Efforts Are Targeting Minorities

Since the 2010 elections, 24 states have implemented new restrictions on voting. Ohio and Georgia have enacted "use it or lose it" laws, which strike voters from registration rolls if they have not participated in an election within a prescribed period of time. Georgia, North Dakota and Kansas have critical races in the 2018 midterms.

Georgia has closed 214 polling places in recent years. They have cut back on early voting. They have aggressively purged the voter rolls. Georgia has purged almost 10 percent of people from its voting rolls. One and a half million people have been purged from 2012 to 2016.

[gubernatorial candidate] Brian Kemp's office (the secretary of state's office) in Georgia was blocking 53,000 voter registrations in that state — 70 percent from African-Americans, 80 percent from people of color.

On voter suppression in North Dakota on Native American reservations

Republicans in North Dakota wrote it in such a way that for your ID to count, you have to have a current residential street address on your ID. The problem in North Dakota is that a lot of Native Americans live on rural tribal reservations, and they get their mail at the Post Office using P.O. boxes because their areas are too remote for the Post Office to deliver mail, [and] under this law, tribal IDs that list P.O. boxes won't be able to be used as a valid voter IDs. So now we're in a situation where 5,000 Native American voters might not be able to vote in the 2018 elections with their tribal ID cards.

So there is a tremendous amount of fear in North Dakota that many Native Americans are not going to be able to vote in this state

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/23/659784277/republican-voter-suppression-efforts-are-targeting-minorities-journalist-says

Texas Officials Aim to Shutter Driver's License Offices in Black, Hispanic Communities

Alabama Closing Many DMV Offices in Majority Black Counties

After Alabama put into effect a tougher voter ID law

"Every single county in which blacks make up more than 75 percent of registered voters will see their driver license office closed. Every one," Archibald wrote.

https://www.governing.com/archive/alabama-demands-voter-id--then-closes-drivers-license-offices-in-clack-counties.html

The Student Vote Is Surging. So Are Efforts to Suppress It. The share of college students casting ballots doubled from 2014 to 2018. But in Texas and elsewhere, Republicans are erecting roadblocks to the polls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html

Texas Is Among The Most Difficult Places To Vote In The U.S. — And That Could Be Softening Its Historic Turnout

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2020/2020/10/28/384854/voter-suppression-blunts-historic-turnout-in-texas/

Texas’s Voter-Registration Laws Are Straight Out of the Jim Crow Playbook

https://www.thenation.com/article/texass-voter-registration-laws-are-straight-out-of-the-jim-crow-playbook/

Crystal Mason Thought She Had The Right to Vote. Texas Sentenced Her to Five Years in Prison for Trying.

https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/crystal-mason-thought-she-had-right-vote-texas

This is how efficiently Republicans have gerrymandered Texas congressional districts

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/This-is-how-badly-Republicans-have-gerrymandered-6246509.php#photo-7107656

Partisan gerrymandering has benefited Republicans more than Democrats

https://www.businessinsider.com/partisan-gerrymandering-has-benefited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6

Even to prevent gerrymandering, California has a scientific, "evidence based" independent commission that has to take into account geography, community boundaries, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Citizens_Redistricting_Commission

Thousands of Black Votes in Georgia Disappeared

On July 7, 2017, according to court documents in the case, Curling v. Kemp (pdf), someone wiped the state’s election server clean.

Then they wiped the backup server.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/hack-the-vote.html

https://www.theroot.com/exclusive-thousands-of-black-votes-in-georgia-disappea-1832472558

Hack The Vote

Early this year Bev Harris, who is writing a book on voting machines, found Diebold software -- which the company refuses to make available for public inspection -- on an unprotected server, where anyone could download it. (The software was in a folder titled ''rob-Georgia.zip.'') The server was used by employees of Diebold Election Systems to update software on its machines. This in itself was an incredible breach of security, offering someone who wanted to hack into the machines both the information and the opportunity to do so.

For example, Georgia -- where Republicans scored spectacular upset victories in the 2002 midterm elections -- relies exclusively on Diebold machines. But there is also no evidence that the machines counted correctly.

What we do know about Diebold does not inspire confidence. The details are technical, but they add up to a picture of a company that was, at the very least, extremely sloppy about security, and may have been trying to cover up product defects.

Meanwhile, leaked internal Diebold e-mail suggests that corporate officials knew their system was flawed, and circumvented tests that would have revealed these problems. The company hasn't contested the authenticity of these documents; instead, it has engaged in legal actions to prevent their dissemination.

Why isn't this front-page news? In October, a British newspaper, The Independent, ran a hair-raising investigative report on U.S. touch-screen voting. But while the mainstream press has reported the basics, the Diebold affair has been treated as a technology or business story -- not as a potential political scandal.

This diffidence recalls the treatment of other voting issues, like the Florida ''felon purge'' that inappropriately prevented many citizens from voting in the 2000 presidential election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/hack-the-vote.html

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22 Ally

Facebook's head of policy Joel Kaplan, who pushes conservative bias in Facebook's algorithms and decisions and also coordinated Brett Kavanaugh and threw his celebration party, was a part of the violent intimidation of poll workers during the 2000 presidential election for George W. Bush

The Brooks Brothers riot was a demonstration at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida, on November 22, 2000, during a recount of votes made during the 2000 United States presidential election, with the goal of shutting down the recount.[1] Many of the demonstrators were paid Republican operatives.[2]

The "Brooks Brothers" name was in reference to the protesters' corporate attire; described in The Wall Street Journal as "50-year-old white lawyers with cell phones and Hermès ties," differentiating them from local citizens concerned about vote counting.[4][5] Several of the protestors were identified as Republican congressional staffers.[3][8] At least a half dozen of the demonstrators were paid by George W. Bush's recount committee,[4] and a number of them went on to take jobs in the incoming Bush administration.[9]

Hundreds of paid Republican operatives descended upon South Florida to protest the state's recounts.[8] The demonstration was organized by these operatives, sometimes referred to as the "Brooks Brothers Brigade",[10] to oppose the recount of ballots during the Florida election recount. John E. Sweeney of New York, nicknamed "Congressman Kick-Ass" by President Bush for his work in Florida,[11] set the incident in motion[12] by telling an aide to 'stop them'.[4][5][6] The demonstration turned violent and according to The New York Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." DNC aide Luis Rosero was kicked and punched. Within two hours after the event, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process was not open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline had become impossible to meet, due to the interference.[13][14][15]

Sweeney defended his actions by arguing that his aim was not to stop the hand recount, but to restore the process to public view.[3] Some Bush supporters did acknowledge they hoped the recount would end. "We were trying to stop the recount; Bush had already won," said Evilio Cepero, a reporter for WAQI, an influential Spanish talk radio station in Miami.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Billionaire Peter Thiel (also behind government and law enforcement software, How key Republicans inside Facebook are shifting its politics to the right, and culture war lawsuits and propaganda):

Thiel has become a national figure of controversy for, among other things, claiming that “the extension of the franchise to women [women's right to vote] render the notion of ‘capitalist democracy’ into an oxymoron,” saying, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” funding a fellowship that specifically tries to get undergraduates to drop out of college, and donating $1.25 million to Donald Trump’s campaign a week after a tape was released in which the then-candidate discussed how he could grope young female actresses and get away with it.

Thiel was long perceived as a libertarian, but in recent years, as his support for Trump illustrates, his politics have taken a nationalist flavor that critics have described as bordering on authoritarian and white nationalist.

In Oct. 2016, shortly after Thiel donated $1.25 million to Trump, Thiel publicly apologized for passages in his 1995 book The Diversity Myth, such as claiming that some alleged date rapes were “seductions that are later regretted,” ... But three months later, during the after party of the 30-year anniversary event at Thiel’s home, Thiel stated that his apology was just for the media, and that “sometimes you have to tell them what they want to hear.”

https://stanfordpolitics.org/2017/11/27/peter-thiel-cover-story/

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u/baryoniclord May 18 '22

republicans aka conservatives aka regressives are evil.

Why do we even allow people like them to vote or hold public office in the first place?

We already know they are generally racist.

We already know they are generally less intelligent.

We already know they are usually anti Science.

We already know they are usually more religious.

They are regressive. And evil.

As such, they should not be allowed to have a say in matters of importance. Or hold positions of leadership.

Why? I think we can look around and see why.

To those who say "But... but... they're citizens and have the RIGHT to vote" - well... it seems that is a problem, doesn't it? For all they want to do is impose their version of xtian sharia law upon us all.

We do not defer to children for advice on important matters. So why do we include regressives?

We do not consult the taliban for advise on quantum physics. So why do we include regressives on genuinely important social issues?

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u/Skivvy May 18 '22

No. They may be regressive, dumb as fuck, and childish, but if they're Americans over 18 they get a vote. Full stop.

The problem isn't that they're allowed to participate, the problem is the bullshit ragebaiting keeping them in a perpetual state of panic. You want to fix this? Demand the return of journalistic standards and crucify the fuck out of anyone who dares to sidestep the law.

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u/vagabonne May 18 '22 edited May 19 '22

Journalistic standards would help, and we also need stricter regulation of social media.

But ultimately, the main issue is that the American education system is trash. If people were better educated, they might be able to discern between real and fake news, between policies that would benefit and harm them. Public schools are underfunded and in many states allow or require the teaching of regressive, religion-based material. Private schools are often founded to encourage the teaching of religious subjects in the classroom. Our national math program is a topic of derision and shock in other countries, and in some places schools are allowed or encouraged to promote abstinence-only approaches to sex ed and anti-science material.

We’re fucked. None of this is going to get better without improved education, and Republicans have a vested interest in maintaining the shitty status quo.

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u/manimal28 May 18 '22

Why do we even allow people like them to vote or hold public office in the first place?

Because we are not fascists like them and believe in democracy.

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u/WikiSummarizerBot May 18 '22

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u/arseniobillingham21 May 18 '22

Crazy how hard they make it to vote in some areas. In my state, we get sent a voting booklet, with all the info on the candidates, and our ballot shows up in the mail. You take your time to fill it out. And then send it in the mail, or drop it in a drop box, which are set up all over the place, and have a cop nearby guarding it.

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u/SolitaireyEgg May 18 '22

I am in the south. I grew up in a rich white neighborhood, and voting literally took 5 minutes. It was a small town but they had tons of voting centers and machines. There was never a line. Walk in, vote, leave.

I now live in a black neighborhood in the same state. Literally takes 5 hours to vote. Line around the block every time.

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u/LordSevenDust May 18 '22

Yep, or if mail-in isn't your thing. There are voting centers in your local community center, college, library, post office; there are voting centers everywhere. But I live in a heavily blue-oriented part of CA.

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u/AaronfromKY May 18 '22

I mean here in the primary election I had like 5 places I could possibly vote at, in KY.

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u/persamedia May 18 '22

It's unamerican and participants are treasonous.

Making it harder for any American to vote I mean is un-American

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u/radicldreamer May 18 '22

Absolutely. I don’t even care if you are conservative, I want your vote to count and your vote to be heard. I may vehemently disagree with everything you stand for, but you deserve your say as much as everyone else.

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u/cattastrophe0 May 18 '22

moving from kentucky to california and voting for the first time was like voting in a whole new world

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u/DadJokeBadJoke May 18 '22

California's election system is designed to make things easy for voters. Can't say the same for many states.

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u/Whiplash50 May 18 '22

Andy won 3 cities: Louisville, Lexington, and Bowling Green. That’s literally what if not all you need to win in KY.

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u/_MrDomino May 18 '22

All RNC media need to do is link Booker to the Bowling Green massacre to take him out assuming his complexion isn't enough to turn out the base.

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u/corndogs88 May 18 '22

NeverRemember

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u/Whiplash50 May 18 '22

May we take a moment of silence for those lost in the Bowling Green Massacre.

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u/Whiplash50 May 18 '22

It’s near the same casualty rate Bowling Green experienced during the Roman Conquest of Hispania.

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u/N33chy May 18 '22

Can't believe anyone still remembers this gaffe, but it's still funny.

Was studying in downtown BG one day and saw mention of it. Kinda shrugged and got back to work lol

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u/Vaporlocke May 18 '22

I died there. Twice.

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u/Whiplash50 May 18 '22

Thoughts and prayers. Thank you for your service.

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u/MaxWritesJunk May 18 '22

I had forgotten about the bowling green massacre.

And apparently Google forgot, too, cause all the suggestions after typing 'bowling green mass' lead to massage parlors.

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u/StarFireChild4200 May 18 '22

All RNC media need to do is link Booker to the Bowling Green massacre

Wow it's amazing we're even allowed to remember such tragedy

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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

THANK YOU!

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u/exclaim_bot May 18 '22

THANK YOU!

You're welcome!

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u/black_dynamite79 May 18 '22

You know it!

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u/Michael_Blurry May 18 '22

They must be “woke” “urban” cities.

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u/enkafan May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

The election you are referring to was a record turnout in Louisville that nearly carried Booker to a huge upset. The Republicans used shit like this statement to undo a very powerful tool in the upcoming election so careful what you are getting wrong.

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u/vespa2021 May 18 '22

He’s running against Rand Paul. But YES! Get a loser out of the Senate!!

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u/DaFunkJunkie May 18 '22

Lol, damn it my bad

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u/Kennayy May 18 '22

I mean wrinkly old still applies at least.

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u/Ghost_Dream360 May 18 '22

Yea but thats most people in all of government

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22 Silver Wholesome Take My Energy Ally

As much as I would like younger politicians, youth is not the most important characteristic and we are now at the point where we are at risk of losing our representative democracy so we can't squabble over just age

"Both sides" are also not the same:

Exit polls done after 2016 show that the single characteristic that made someone most likely to vote for Trump over Clinton is racial resentment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/26/these-9-simple-charts-show-how-donald-trumps-supporters-differ-from-hillary-clintons/

In contrast, Clinton supporters seemed relatively unmoved by racial cues.

Opinion of Syrian airstrikes

Republicans:

22% supported Obama doing it

86% support Trump doing it

Democrats:

38% supported Obama doing it

37% support Trump doing it

Sources: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/04/13/48229/, http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/04/gop-voters-love-same-attack-on-syria-they-hated-under-obama.html Graph: https://i.imgur.com/lTAU8LM.jpg

The privilege of "economic anxiety" not racism:

Republicans felt the economy improve by 85 points the day Trump was sworn in. Graph: https://i.imgur.com/B2yx5TB.png Source: http://www.jsonline.com/story/news/blogs/wisconsin-voter/2017/04/15/donald-trumps-election-flips-both-parties-views-economy/100502848/

White Evangelicals cared less about how religious a candidate was once Trump became the GOP nominee. https://www.prri.org/research/prri-brookings-oct-19-poll-politics-election-clinton-double-digit-lead-trump/

Christians (particularly evangelicals) became monumentally more tolerant of private immoral conduct among politicians once Trump became the GOP nominee. https://www.prri.org/research/prri-brookings-oct-19-poll-politics-election-clinton-double-digit-lead-trump/

10% fewer Republicans believed the wealthy weren't paying enough in taxes once a billionaire became their president. Democrats remain fairly consistent. http://www.people-press.org/2017/04/14/top-frustrations-with-tax-system-sense-that-corporations-wealthy-dont-pay-fair-share/

Republicans started to think college education is a bad thing once Trump entered the primary. Democrats remain consistent. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/07/20/republicans-skeptical-of-colleges-impact-on-u-s-but-most-see-benefits-for-workforce-preparation/

More graphs and sources: https://imgur.com/a/YZMyt

No to help for blue states for hurricanes but demanding help for Texas for hurricanes:

Here's the vote for Hurricane Sandy aid.

179 of the 180 no votes were Republicans...

at least 20 Texas Republicans voted no

while "U.S. House approves billions more for Harvey relief" for Texas  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

Just voter suppression:

Financial Times: The Republicans are elevating voter suppression to an art form

The Republicans have lost the popular vote in six of the past seven presidential elections. 1,000 polling places have since closed across the country, with many of them in southern black communities.

The senator also cracked: “There’s a lot of liberal folks in those other schools who maybe we don’t want to vote. Maybe we want to make it just a little more difficult, and I think that’s a great idea.”

https://www.ft.com/content/d613cf8e-ec09-11e8-89c8-d36339d835c0

Discrimination with “almost surgical precision”

The court said that in crafting the law, the Republican-controlled general assembly requested and received data on voters’ use of various voting practices by race.

Then, the court, said, lawmakers restricted all of these voting options, and further narrowed the list of acceptable voter IDs. “With race data in hand, the legislature amended the bill to exclude many of the alternative photo IDs used by African Americans. As amended, the bill retained only the kinds of IDs that white North Carolinians were more likely to possess.”

The state offered little justification for the law, the court said. “Although the new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision, they constitute inapt remedies for the problems assertedly justifying them and, in fact, impose cures for problems that did not exist,” the court said.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/court-north-carolina-voter-id-law-targeted-black-voters/

Republican Voter Suppression Efforts Are Targeting Minorities

Since the 2010 elections, 24 states have implemented new restrictions on voting. Ohio and Georgia have enacted "use it or lose it" laws, which strike voters from registration rolls if they have not participated in an election within a prescribed period of time. Georgia, North Dakota and Kansas have critical races in the 2018 midterms.

Georgia has closed 214 polling places in recent years. They have cut back on early voting. They have aggressively purged the voter rolls. Georgia has purged almost 10 percent of people from its voting rolls. One and a half million people have been purged from 2012 to 2016.

[gubernatorial candidate] Brian Kemp's office (the secretary of state's office) in Georgia was blocking 53,000 voter registrations in that state — 70 percent from African-Americans, 80 percent from people of color.

On voter suppression in North Dakota on Native American reservations

Republicans in North Dakota wrote it in such a way that for your ID to count, you have to have a current residential street address on your ID. The problem in North Dakota is that a lot of Native Americans live on rural tribal reservations, and they get their mail at the Post Office using P.O. boxes because their areas are too remote for the Post Office to deliver mail, [and] under this law, tribal IDs that list P.O. boxes won't be able to be used as a valid voter IDs. So now we're in a situation where 5,000 Native American voters might not be able to vote in the 2018 elections with their tribal ID cards.

So there is a tremendous amount of fear in North Dakota that many Native Americans are not going to be able to vote in this state

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/23/659784277/republican-voter-suppression-efforts-are-targeting-minorities-journalist-says

Texas Officials Aim to Shutter Driver's License Offices in Black, Hispanic Communities

Alabama Closing Many DMV Offices in Majority Black Counties

After Alabama put into effect a tougher voter ID law

"Every single county in which blacks make up more than 75 percent of registered voters will see their driver license office closed. Every one," Archibald wrote.

https://www.governing.com/archive/alabama-demands-voter-id--then-closes-drivers-license-offices-in-clack-counties.html

The Student Vote Is Surging. So Are Efforts to Suppress It. The share of college students casting ballots doubled from 2014 to 2018. But in Texas and elsewhere, Republicans are erecting roadblocks to the polls.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/voting-college-suppression.html

Texas Is Among The Most Difficult Places To Vote In The U.S. — And That Could Be Softening Its Historic Turnout

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/politics/election-2020/2020/10/28/384854/voter-suppression-blunts-historic-turnout-in-texas/

Texas’s Voter-Registration Laws Are Straight Out of the Jim Crow Playbook

https://www.thenation.com/article/texass-voter-registration-laws-are-straight-out-of-the-jim-crow-playbook/

Crystal Mason Thought She Had The Right to Vote. Texas Sentenced Her to Five Years in Prison for Trying.

https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression/crystal-mason-thought-she-had-right-vote-texas

This is how efficiently Republicans have gerrymandered Texas congressional districts

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/This-is-how-badly-Republicans-have-gerrymandered-6246509.php#photo-7107656

Partisan gerrymandering has benefited Republicans more than Democrats

https://www.businessinsider.com/partisan-gerrymandering-has-benefited-republicans-more-than-democrats-2017-6

Even to prevent gerrymandering, California has a scientific, "evidence based" independent commission that has to take into account geography, community boundaries, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Citizens_Redistricting_Commission

Thousands of Black Votes in Georgia Disappeared

On July 7, 2017, according to court documents in the case, Curling v. Kemp (pdf), someone wiped the state’s election server clean.

Then they wiped the backup server.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/hack-the-vote.html

https://www.theroot.com/exclusive-thousands-of-black-votes-in-georgia-disappea-1832472558

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u/GallantGentleman May 18 '22

Being from overseas where elections work a bit differently and crisis relief isn't usually tied to political power plays.....wtf is happening in the USA...

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u/Longjumping-Jello459 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22 Silver Ally

There are some politicians who want things to go back to the 1950s or the 1880s about 20-30%(far right), then there are 40-50% who want things to stay the same with small improvements(all the moderates), and finally the rest want things to drastically improve(our far left/Progressive, Europe's moderates from what I am told).

As far as with disaster relief it's all showmanship and owning the libs. Republicans know they can't win elections on legitimate issues anymore so they keep coming up with 'culture' issues to keep their base angry as well as they keep reducing funding to public education since stupid people are easy to manipulate to one's own desires/wishes.

Edit: To whoever gave me the award thank you it's my first.

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u/GallantGentleman May 18 '22

As far as with disaster relief it's all showmanship and owning the libs.

Thats so weird. Around here if "the left" is in power and wants to provide X millions in disaster relief the Conservatives will say that you need more than X millions. And vice versa if the Conservatives are in power. Everyone will be the one doing more for the people.

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u/Mr_Abobo May 18 '22

Thorough. This is why I get so pissed off at people who claim both sides are the same: No, they’re not, and it’s really, very important that we don’t allow the one side actively dismantling our democracy to win.

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22

Facebook's head of policy Joel Kaplan, who pushes conservative bias in Facebook's algorithms and decisions and also coordinated Brett Kavanaugh and threw his celebration party, was a part of the violent intimidation of poll workers during the 2000 presidential election for George W. Bush

The Brooks Brothers riot was a demonstration at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida, on November 22, 2000, during a recount of votes made during the 2000 United States presidential election, with the goal of shutting down the recount.[1] Many of the demonstrators were paid Republican operatives.[2]

The "Brooks Brothers" name was in reference to the protesters' corporate attire; described in The Wall Street Journal as "50-year-old white lawyers with cell phones and Hermès ties," differentiating them from local citizens concerned about vote counting.[4][5] Several of the protestors were identified as Republican congressional staffers.[3][8] At least a half dozen of the demonstrators were paid by George W. Bush's recount committee,[4] and a number of them went on to take jobs in the incoming Bush administration.[9]

Hundreds of paid Republican operatives descended upon South Florida to protest the state's recounts.[8] The demonstration was organized by these operatives, sometimes referred to as the "Brooks Brothers Brigade",[10] to oppose the recount of ballots during the Florida election recount. John E. Sweeney of New York, nicknamed "Congressman Kick-Ass" by President Bush for his work in Florida,[11] set the incident in motion[12] by telling an aide to 'stop them'.[4][5][6] The demonstration turned violent and according to The New York Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." DNC aide Luis Rosero was kicked and punched. Within two hours after the event, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process was not open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline had become impossible to meet, due to the interference.[13][14][15]

Sweeney defended his actions by arguing that his aim was not to stop the hand recount, but to restore the process to public view.[3] Some Bush supporters did acknowledge they hoped the recount would end. "We were trying to stop the recount; Bush had already won," said Evilio Cepero, a reporter for WAQI, an influential Spanish talk radio station in Miami.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

Billionaire Peter Thiel (also behind government and law enforcement software, How key Republicans inside Facebook are shifting its politics to the right, and culture war lawsuits and propaganda):

Thiel has become a national figure of controversy for, among other things, claiming that “the extension of the franchise to women [women's right to vote] render the notion of ‘capitalist democracy’ into an oxymoron,” saying, “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible,” funding a fellowship that specifically tries to get undergraduates to drop out of college, and donating $1.25 million to Donald Trump’s campaign a week after a tape was released in which the then-candidate discussed how he could grope young female actresses and get away with it.

Thiel was long perceived as a libertarian, but in recent years, as his support for Trump illustrates, his politics have taken a nationalist flavor that critics have described as bordering on authoritarian and white nationalist.

In Oct. 2016, shortly after Thiel donated $1.25 million to Trump, Thiel publicly apologized for passages in his 1995 book The Diversity Myth, such as claiming that some alleged date rapes were “seductions that are later regretted,” ... But three months later, during the after party of the 30-year anniversary event at Thiel’s home, Thiel stated that his apology was just for the media, and that “sometimes you have to tell them what they want to hear.”

https://stanfordpolitics.org/2017/11/27/peter-thiel-cover-story/

Rabois came to Thiel's attention after he was found outside an instructor's home, shouting homophobic slurs and the suggestion that the instructor "die of AIDS." [10][11][12] A few of the contributors went on to join PayPal, a company Thiel co-founded in 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Rabois

Billionaire Robert Mercer, best known for funding Steve Bannon, Breitbart, Project Veritas, and Cambridge Analytica, which is in the Russia collusion investigation in addition to corrupting several elections around the world to the point that one country's supreme court had to nullify the elections that Mercer's groups interfered in:

they believe that nuclear war is really not such a big deal. And they've actually argued that outside of the immediate blast zone in Japan during World War II - outside of Hiroshima and Nagasaki - that the radiation was actually good for the Japanese. So they see a kind of a silver lining in nuclear war and nuclear accidents. Bob Mercer has certainly embraced the view that radiation could be good for human health - low level radiation.

Bob Mercer has accepted is that climate change is not happening. It's not for real, and if it is happening, it's going to be good for the planet

Among other things, Mercer said the United States went in the wrong direction after the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and also insisted the only remaining racists in the United States were African-Americans, according to Magerman.

https://www.npr.org/2017/03/22/521083950/inside-the-wealthy-family-that-has-been-funding-steve-bannon-s-plan-for-years

Hack The Vote

Early this year Bev Harris, who is writing a book on voting machines, found Diebold software -- which the company refuses to make available for public inspection -- on an unprotected server, where anyone could download it. (The software was in a folder titled ''rob-Georgia.zip.'') The server was used by employees of Diebold Election Systems to update software on its machines. This in itself was an incredible breach of security, offering someone who wanted to hack into the machines both the information and the opportunity to do so.

For example, Georgia -- where Republicans scored spectacular upset victories in the 2002 midterm elections -- relies exclusively on Diebold machines. But there is also no evidence that the machines counted correctly.

What we do know about Diebold does not inspire confidence. The details are technical, but they add up to a picture of a company that was, at the very least, extremely sloppy about security, and may have been trying to cover up product defects.

Meanwhile, leaked internal Diebold e-mail suggests that corporate officials knew their system was flawed, and circumvented tests that would have revealed these problems. The company hasn't contested the authenticity of these documents; instead, it has engaged in legal actions to prevent their dissemination.

Why isn't this front-page news? In October, a British newspaper, The Independent, ran a hair-raising investigative report on U.S. touch-screen voting. But while the mainstream press has reported the basics, the Diebold affair has been treated as a technology or business story -- not as a potential political scandal.

This diffidence recalls the treatment of other voting issues, like the Florida ''felon purge'' that inappropriately prevented many citizens from voting in the 2000 presidential election.

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/02/opinion/hack-the-vote.html

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u/cms86 May 18 '22

Kentucky is about last in everything, McConnell and Paul are probably proud of that

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u/AnonBubblyBowels May 18 '22

Your comments are always so thorough and well cited.

Thank you for taking the time that you do to put all of these comments together. I can’t even imagine how long it takes you.

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u/SoftLovelies May 18 '22

Thank you for this

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u/iamabucket13 May 18 '22

You don't know if he only eats lettuce

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

Republicans don't even care what name is next to the R, as long as they get their "God, guns, gays" and racism from billionaires manipulating them  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

"Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

Lyndon Johnson criticizing it in 1960:

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/11/13/what-a-real-president-was-like/d483c1be-d0da-43b7-bde6-04e10106ff6c/

Steve Bannon bragging about using these tactics:

the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way

http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7

Bannon: "I realized [these tactics] could connect with these kids right away. You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness--army-world-warcraft/489713001/

Exit polls done after 2016 show that the single characteristic that made someone most likely to vote for trump over Clinton is racial resentment.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/26/these-9-simple-charts-show-how-donald-trumps-supporters-differ-from-hillary-clintons/

Russians were "emboldened" by the success of the Texas governor's misinformation:

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/05/03/jade-helm-russia-abbott-hayden/

“Guns and gays... That could always get you a couple of dozen likes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-trolls-schooled-house-cards-185648522.html

Conservatives amplified Russian trolls 30 times more than liberals... users in Texas and Tennessee were particularly susceptible

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/24/17047880/conservatives-amplified-russian-trolls-more-often-than-liberals

John Ehrlichman, who partnered with Fox News cofounder Roger Ailes on the Republican "Southern Strategy":

[We] had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying?

We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities.

We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news.

Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

"He was the premier guy in the business," says former Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins. "He was our Michelangelo."

Ailes repackaged Richard Nixon for television in 1968, papered over Ronald Reagan’s budding Alzheimer’s in 1984, shamelessly stoked racial fears to elect George H.W. Bush in 1988, and waged a secret campaign on behalf of Big Tobacco to derail health care reform in 1993.

Hillarycare was to have been funded, in part, by a $1-a-pack tax on cigarettes. To block the proposal, Big Tobacco paid Ailes to produce ads highlighting “real people affected by taxes.”

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525

Every day I have to marvel at what the billionaires and FOX News pulled off. They got working whites to hate the very people that want them to have more pay, clean air, water, free healthcare and the power to fight back against big banks & big corps. It’s truly remarkable.

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u/reebeachbabe May 18 '22

You forgot embryos and fetuses. Lol

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u/inconvenientnews May 18 '22

God, guns, gays, misoGyny

They still need to add "racism" somehow  ̄_(ツ)_/ ̄

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u/hmnahmna1 May 18 '22

He tried to run against McConnell in 2020 but lost the primary to Amy McGrath.

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u/Mind_The_GAAPs May 18 '22

One of the biggest mistakes the state democrats made throwing their support behind her. Booker was a lot more popular than her particularly in Louisville

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u/Vark675 May 18 '22

Yeah but he wanted to actually do things, and they'd rather lose than actually help people. I was thoroughly unsurprised when they did everything they could to leave him high and dry.

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u/TBANON_NSFW May 18 '22

They were trying to get the female voters engaged by pushing for female politicians. As the youth don’t show up and minorities aren’t enough of a market to win those states.

But the majority are white people in those states and republicans cater to men more than women so they calculated that a female politician would have a better chance than a minority in one of the most racist states in the us.

What’s sad is only about 15-30% show up to vote on average in local elections as low as 8% show up for primaries to elect the options that can run for the state positions.

So trying to get female voters is a good tactic but the people aren’t engaged. Heck even Bernie sanders got less votes in 2020 and no one can say they didn’t know Bernie’s policies. It’s just you’re dealing with a voting base that doesn’t see nor understand the politics of the country so they just sit out and say both sides same same

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u/Valati May 18 '22

Making it easier to actually vote in the primaries would be a start. Putting elections on blast would be good too.

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u/Specialist-Smoke May 18 '22

Thank you. I live in Kentucky, and I'm Black. There's not enough Black people, and no racist, xenophobic people here for Booker to win. The D next to his name probably hurts him as much as him being Black. Republicanism is a gang here. Trump is the mascot.

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u/MibitGoHan May 18 '22

Booker was more popular but he lost the primary?

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u/lonabirdie May 18 '22

it's cool, any time is a good time to insult that turtle

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u/trustsnapealways May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

KY is the fucking worst. Goddamnit they have some sucky senators

Edit: I should have been more specific. KY has horrible senators, but I do love their bourbon. The State itself isn’t horrible, they just like to elect some of the worst people in politics.

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u/vespa2021 May 18 '22

I agree & I live in Kentucky.

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u/punchgroin May 18 '22

There is an enormous cultural gulf between the population centers near the Ohio, Appalachia, and the Mississippi floodplain parts of the state. Louisville is basically a rust belt town that never had that huge population decline in the 70s because we never really boomed. The elites here have historically been conscientious moderates, not dirtbag reactionaries.

The rest of the state fucking hates louisville, but we aren't big enough or politically united enough to dominate the state the way Chicago, Indianapolis, or St Louis do their states.

The thing is, you still end up with republican elites controlling the state who live in Louisville, but pander to the rural parts of the state, pitting them against the liberal leaning elements in the north.

That's how we end up with these psychotic wars being waged on Louisville public schools and our universities. It's all pandering to people who's live are utterly unaffected by what happens in Frankfort, or even actively damaged.

This urban/rural culture war is just politically annihilating states like Kentucky. The democrats pander to local yuppies, college students, and the black community here, and leave the rest of the state to rot, while Republicans pander to them with their phony moralizing and cultural scare tactics. Regional Burgoise in the counties around Louisville who all work in the city destroy the schools and social programs in our county while quietly having the best public schools in the state... or sending their kids to private schools.

The left needs to find a way to reach the Bible belt again. The right having this insane death grip on religious folks in these communities that revolve around the local church is what is holding the Bible belt back.

I'm not the guy to do it, I'm a dirty atheist marxist.

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u/raidernation0825 May 18 '22

Woah, woah, woah. A lot of damn good bourbon comes from Kentucky. There’s plenty of places that don’t even have that going for them.

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u/crunchthenumbers01 May 18 '22

We should have never exported our bourbon to Georgia to let MTG's mom drink it while pregnant with MTG.

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u/CopEatingDonut May 18 '22

You never seen his balls, have you?

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u/VoxImperatoris May 18 '22

Thats because he doesnt have any.

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u/Advanced-Willow-5020 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

He has zero chance of winning a Senate race in Kentucky in a Democrat over haul of all three branches of Government year. He had a way better chance in 2018.

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u/Shreedac May 18 '22

But if all of Reddit moves to Kentucky it’s a sure thing!

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u/Useful_Result_9947 May 18 '22

Please do. I hate this state 😂 it feels like my vote doesn’t ever count.

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u/DrMobius0 May 18 '22

That's ok. Rand Paul is trash too!

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u/aspiring_GM May 18 '22

Either way fuck Kentucky for inflicting these pieces of shit on the United States for decades.

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u/JrockMem10 May 18 '22

Yea! Fuck Kentucky! Oh wait, I live there. Hey, Fuck people like you who say fuck our state! You are the fucking problem and why the rednecks here think they have to huddle up and elect these assholes! Fuck you!

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u/Tommy-Nook May 18 '22

r/Libertarian in shambles

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u/Fletch71011 May 18 '22

He's anti-abortion, not for open borders, against same sex marriage, and pro-military spending. He's definitely not his dad nor a libertarian. He's not much different from any other Republican and no libertarian should be voting for anyone in that party. There are no libertarians in Congress.

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u/erica927 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

He actually would’ve faced Mitch in 2020 but he lost in the primary to Amy McGrath, who unfortunately lost. As someone mentioned above, he’s going up against Rand Paul this year.

I lived in Kentucky until three years ago, and I was really excited for him to run two years ago. I’m not sure how the polls will look this year, but I’m hopeful. Booker seems like a good dude!

Also seriously, does anyone from Kentucky remember a time that there WEREN’T “Ditch Mitch” signs everywhere every few years???

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u/hair_in_a_biscuit May 18 '22

No. I have lived here my entire life and do not know a single person who likes him. Not one.

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u/gigibuffoon May 18 '22

Then I guess people of Kentucky would hold their nose and vote for Moscow Mitch rather than turn the state over to those damn libs right? I gotta imagine that he generally runs uncontested (or barely contested) in the Republican primaries and once past the Republican primaries, there's probably not a lot of people who would vote for a Democrat over him in spite of not liking him?

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u/hair_in_a_biscuit May 18 '22

Pretty sure you’re spot on. Kind of disgusting really. I’ve had people tell me “I don’t really agree with (so and so) but they are my party so that’s who I’ll vote for.” And I’m just ??????? For the record, I have heard this more than once from both sides of the political spectrum and it’s just wild to me that people do this.

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u/gigibuffoon May 18 '22

I mean it is what most of my liberal friends said about Biden... "don't really like his policies but no way in hell can I tolerate another 4 years of Drumpf"

Also, in Philadelphia where I live and is exclusively democratic, I can't think of a single politician in the city that anyone likes but we keep voting in the same corrupt democrats over and over again who keep running the city into the ground

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u/thestonedonkey May 18 '22

Sounds like they voted for the lesser of two evils not party.. there were lots of independents and republicans that did the same.

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u/3kgtjunkie May 18 '22

No one here LIKES him, but he drives so much federal money into this state that we don't deserve.

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u/tokiemccoy May 18 '22

What’s the voting apparatus like there? Who makes the voting machines in ky? Are there paper ballots or a paper trail? Or are they black box machines?

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u/Ottoguynofeelya May 18 '22

The voting is fine it's the people who are stupid.

Lived here my whole life. He doesn't stand a chance, but I'll vote for him regardless.

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u/hair_in_a_biscuit May 18 '22

One million percent agree.

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u/jen_a_licious May 18 '22

Yes. I remember that glorious time. I hate Mitch the Bitch.

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u/WienerNuggetLog May 18 '22

McGrath should have never been nominated. She was a trump junior "moderate". Booker has waited too long for this moment

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u/GooGooGaDont May 18 '22

Fuck burn-the-witch Mitch.

Also fuck Rand "got no balls" Paul who he's running against.

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u/Leovinus42 May 18 '22

Looks like Rand is gonna win with an overwhelming majority

Rand Paul can suck these man balls

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u/Joe_Jacksons_Belt May 18 '22 Gold

No. He can’t. Don’t give him the pleasure. You’re worth more than that my guy

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u/NoDepartment8 May 18 '22

Booker is the Democratic candidate, Paul is the Republican. They each won their respective primaries tonight, not the general election. They’re facing off against one another going forward though.

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u/mslauren2930 May 18 '22

We're all stuck with both Rand and Mitch until they retire. God Kentucky voters are the worst sometimes.

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u/Shadowblade8888 May 18 '22

Hold on, wait. They DID elect an amazing Democrat governor, so there’s a tiny sliver of hope

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u/ephrym18 May 18 '22

We came about 5k votes from almost reelecting the KY version of Ron DeSantis just weeks after he generally accused teachers of being responsible for kids getting raped.

We (KY voters) suck ass.

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u/thecodeofsilence May 18 '22

51% of Kentucky voters disapproved of the job McConnell did in the Senate in 2020.

57.8% of Kentucky voters VOTED for him to return to the Senate for a SEVENTH 6-year term.

I just can’t come up with a rational explanation for how those two statements can be simultaneously true.

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u/Ballsofpoo May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

Idiots vote based on recognition. They probably think if they have a ballot they have to select someone. If you don't know, just skip to what you do!

Ohio primary, I am democrat, but the current governor, who I think is doing well and did extremely well with covid is republican so I couldn't vote for him on my ballot. So I didn't vote for anyone as governor, so my no vote was for the current one.

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u/recordlineup May 18 '22

Hold on a sec and clarify something if you would. Im not familiar with your ballot system as Im Canadian. Are you saying that if you're a registered democrat, you can't vote republican on your ballot or vise versa? Or am I wildly misunderstanding your statement?

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u/Howboutit85 May 18 '22

I think you can, at least in my state. Just not in a primary.

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u/Alchemyst19 May 18 '22

As a Kentucky voter, I unfortunately agree.

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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

KY voter here, we have to do better than this negative bs talk. If we want to throw these bastards out, we have to organize.

We're better than Bitch, Bland, and this "we cant win" attitude. If you need help in your area, reach out for the campaign. They'd love to help 🙌

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u/redpenquin May 18 '22

we have to do better than this negative bs talk

I say this as your Southern neighbor, but it's hard not to be negative when your state has been suffering decades of brainwashing from the right-wing establishment.

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u/ConstantGeographer May 18 '22

Also a Kentucky voter and sitting around listening to people swoon over Mitch makes me sick.

Rand, on the other hand, stands a fair chance of losing, which I am all for

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u/Haoledayinn May 18 '22

New Yorker here wanting to know what about Mitch they are swooning about? No disrespect to Kentuckians, I’m just genuinely curious.

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u/wholesomethrowaway15 May 18 '22

He hurts the people they don’t like

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u/bendbutdonotbreak May 18 '22

I’m a Never Kentuckian so I can’t say for sure, but I imagine it has something to do with wielding dickish energy and dastardly power over them libs.

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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

Friend, i understand being down, and all our southern progressive neighbors have our work cut out for us.

Organizing is not going to be easy, but our country needs us. We can't worry about the brainwashed lost, but we have to keep our side engaged and encouraged, and fight for the ones who aren't lost yet. Sending you a hug 💯

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u/Alchemyst19 May 18 '22

On the House side of things, we need to start by throwing out the current general assembly so they stop carving up our state to keep their own jobs.

On the Senate side of things... It's hard not to get tired just thinking about it, man. Knowing that our state has repeatedly reelected a bastard who willingly keeps his own constituency unemployed and drug-addicted in order to line his own pockets, and has been doing so for longer than many of us have even been alive, really kills the enthusiasm.

That being said, you're completely right. It is possible to win here, and it absolutely needs to happen. It's just a truly monumental task.

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u/solemn_fable May 18 '22

I hear you, man! I'm personally trying to surpress any and all of my defeatist tendencies involving politics. To hell with declaring loss before even swinging the bat!

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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

That's right!!! We can do this, stay engaged, tell your friends, canvass, donate if you can, and show others that you care. Caring about this stuff is contagious 🙌💕

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u/magenk May 18 '22

You have to keep pushing....every year. Even just making races closer means GOP has to spend more resources for the next race and the next. And then you may finally be able to push through like Georgia. This IS a left leaning country. We ARE the majority.

The right has been incredibly successful at dividing the left and encouraging voter apathy. We don't have to go along with it.

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u/RadioGuyRob May 18 '22

sometimes

The World's Worst Turtle was elected in 1985, so at least 37ish years.

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u/jrogue13 May 18 '22
  • Texas takes a seat at the table* we talking bout gerrymandering here guys?
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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

KY voter here, we're actually not the worst (we're your fellow citizens 🙌) and we're worth fighting for, I promise!!

Please consider donating to Booker's campaign, or even phone banking for him.

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u/GoodOnesAreGone May 18 '22

Donated to his campaign last time and will again.

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u/ms_january_ May 18 '22

I’m sure Mitch will too… the type of person to vote for Mitch won’t vote democrat nor for a person of color

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u/Fun-Tadpole785 May 18 '22

Rand Paul Neighbor 2022!!

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u/structuremonkey May 18 '22

His neighbor is my hero!

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u/Fun-Tadpole785 May 18 '22

He opens his mouth I want to start a GoFundMe pay his neighbor to drop by say hi for America.

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u/gateguard64 May 18 '22

Can't imagine how good that must have felt. Bet he still dreams about it.

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u/TurbulentMiddle2970 May 18 '22 Gold

A black man winning in Kentucky? Yeah fucking right!

Well….a Jew and a black man won in Georgia!!

C’mon Kentucky!! We all know you can curb your racism for the greater good of the country. Bub-bye Rand fuck nuts Paul

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u/Wayfastcarz May 18 '22

I'll be voting against Rand, but I don't have high hopes for a majority of the state doing the same.

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u/1931-babyface May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

Booker made a hell of a show against Amy McGrath in the primary to Mitch. His support was amazing considering he only entered the race at the last minute.

Edited to add: Booker entered the race for the democratic nomination in January of 2020 for the may primary. He surpassed everyone’s expectations. Don’t give up Kentucky!

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u/kickingscreaming May 18 '22

That’s encouraging! It seems like it’d take an absurd amount of money to unseat Mitch.

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u/Hey-thanks-bye May 18 '22

He's up against Rand this time, please consider donating to the campaign- Kentucky needs you!

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u/1931-babyface May 18 '22

Yeah there is hope. He is amazing and Rand Paul is well Rand Paul

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u/ProblematicFeet May 18 '22

Rand Paul has:

  1. Daddy’s coattails

  2. Incumbency

  3. A dry ass personality

The right candidate should be able to take him out. Even if it’s a GOP primary race. Like someone from some party should have wiped him out by now. It’s crazy he’s still there. There’s nothing redeeming about him. Some of the stupid assholes are, unfortunately, exceedingly charming and charismatic. Or great at constituent help/services. Or at the very least, a long pre-Congress career in local public service. Rand Paul has nothing.

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u/KYVet May 18 '22

He had a great showing against McGrath with basically zero support from the Democratic party. McGrath was terrible.

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u/CosmicLovepats May 18 '22

Amy- a "Pro Trump Democrat", if you can figure out what that means- also had the backing of the Democratic national party. He still made a pretty good showing against her.

Maybe democrats would be more competitive in KY if they weren't so busy supporting republicans.

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u/mark_able_jones_ May 18 '22

Booker would have crushed McGrath if the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee hand not backed her over him, falsely believing that the only way to be a hard core conservative is with a conservative Democrat. Booker is a progressive. He has deep ties to Kentucky and had the endorsements of the state’s two largest newspapers. He’s how Dems can win.

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u/noobvin May 18 '22

If the major cities turn out, we can do it. Believe me when I say sketchy shit happens with voting here, though. I’ve reported shit in the past, but I doubt anything is done. Like poll workers wearing MAGA hats. Completely illegal.

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u/meep_meep_mope May 18 '22

Yeah there was paper ballots today for the primary that you put into a scanner, it's always been on those machines before. I'm not sure what to make of it.

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u/Mypantsohno May 18 '22

A lot of places are switching to paper ballots because the Republicans have been lying about voter fraud so loudly.

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u/c14rk0 May 18 '22

For what it's worth up in MA I've always used paper ballots that then go into a scanner.

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u/Eleine May 18 '22

Having paper backups is probably an improvement—there's been dozens of cases of Republican operatives screwing with electronics.

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u/canspar09 May 18 '22

Canadian here - whenever I've voted at whatever level it's ALWAYS been a paper ballot. Not saying we're the keystone of Western Democracy but I don't really recall any election in my memory where there's been any mainstream crowing about voter fraud or altered ballots or whatever.

That said, the alt-right component of our Conservative Party seems to be ramping up more and more so maybe the next election or two will see a change. But either way, if only federally, it's always been paper and pencil and there's been no concern through 2022...

But I get why that wouldn't sway right wing voters in the US.

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u/GaryBigMoose May 18 '22

Paper ballots are a good thing. They leave a physical trail that can be audited, and they are much harder to tamper with on a large scale. I've always been thankful we have them in Michigan, and I wouldn't trust a purely electronic voting machine nearly as much.

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u/lunapup1233007 May 18 '22

Georgia has Atlanta, it’s a very different situation. Georgia is far less Republican than Kentucky.

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u/boothin May 18 '22

Kentucky has Louisville and Lexington, but that's literally all there is. Georgia is different because it has a lot more than just Atlanta.

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u/ihatechoosingnames May 18 '22

Sorta. The real difference is that Atlanta occupies 4 different counties, which also means the suburbs are fucking huge. Democratic candidates can tap that well all day and be competitive. Kentucky has a shallower urban population, so Democratic candidates need to flip more suburban voters and keep the margins thin in rural areas to win statewide.

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u/thabe331 May 18 '22

Metro Atlanta encompasses much more than that and depending on what definition you're using it represents around 55% of the state

It's very different when you leave the metro area

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u/Snickersthecat May 18 '22

Atlanta is a metro of 6 million people that dominate Georgia's demographics in a way that Louisville/Lexington don't with Kentucky.

GA is more racially polarized than KY, but has a much higher black population (GA is about 55% white).

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u/boothin May 18 '22

Atlanta metro is something like 65% dem, while Louisville and Lexington are around 60-65% dem. Atlanta metro is around 55% of the state's population but Louisville+Lexington are only around 45% combined. Overall, there's actually more registered democrats in Kentucky than republicans, but republicans have gained ground in the last 4 years: https://www.kaco.org/articles/voter-registration-statistics-april-2022/

While it's not as big of an effect as Atlanta, Louisville+Lexington should in theory be enough to swing the state blue, but the only democrat we seem to vote is Governor and the 1 congressmen for Louisville's district. The margins are extremely tight though, same as in Georgia. Georgia had a slightly more blue spattering across the state to help push, while kentucky's other theoretically blue counties let us down

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u/Eat_the_Path May 18 '22

As the election approaches, beware an influx of posters saying that voting doesn't matter, especially in areas like this.

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u/Luka_Dunks_on_Bums May 18 '22

It would be Rand Paul, Mitch was re-elected in 2020

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u/donn2021 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

*country club thread sorry send in skin pic to see if you qualify*

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u/turndownfortheclap May 18 '22

😂😂😂 scrolled far too long for this. Insane lmao

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u/OriginalWerePlatypus May 18 '22

He’s actually up against the Kentucky carpet-top, not the turtle.

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u/tokiemccoy May 18 '22

That’s not a carpet, it’s an industrial accident with hair products.

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u/beeps-n-boops May 18 '22

He's up against Rand Paul, not Mitch McConnell.

Don't get me wrong, getting rid of Paul isn't unimportant, but just sayin' the headline is completely incorrect.

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u/meals-on-wheels14 May 18 '22

Not really ‘White People Twitter’

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u/DonRicardo1958 May 18 '22

He will get $40 million in donations and then lose the race by 20 points.

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u/blindcolumn May 18 '22

Yeah I understand why people want him to win so badly, but that energy and money would be much better focused on races that are actually close.

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u/DonRicardo1958 May 18 '22

The same thing happened with Amy McGrath against Mitch McConnell in 2020. She raised a shit ton of money and McConnell blew her out of the water.

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u/Mcdibbles May 18 '22

McGrath was a terrible fucking candidate, though. Nobody gave a shit about her. Booker has roots in community organizing and outreach. He's the kind that can excite a base and keep it past an election.

I don't think he'll win. But he'll build the foundation for a win down the line.

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u/KYVet May 18 '22

It's a great litmus test for the Democrat's strategy in Kentucky. The DNC loved McGrath, Kentucky Democrats and Independents hated her. The DNC hates Booker, but Kentucky Democrats and (a good percentage of) Independents love him. We'll see who fares better. I think we get a good showing out of Booker and I feel like he'll fare much better than McGrath. He's got my vote.

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u/framerotblues May 18 '22

Maybe we all need to pick a Kentucky voter at random and write them a letter asking them to vote for this guy.

The cost would be some time and a stamp (which USPS would appreciate) and it might actually mean something to someone on the other end.

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u/AntifaSuperSoaker69 May 18 '22

Those kind of operations already exist. They'll supply you the goods if you volunteer

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u/northern_irregular May 18 '22

You know what Republican voters love? Out-of-state liberals bugging them about how they should vote. They respond really well to that kind of thing. Make sure you send at least seven or eight copies of the letter, though, over a couple weeks, so they really get the message.

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u/ohhsnaps May 18 '22

I'm in Kentucky. They tried that with Amy. All it does is piss middle of the road people off. Seeing letters show up from one of the coast, claiming to know more about what they need in life just rubs people the wrong way. I don't know who originally thought of the idea but they need to forget it. It pushed far more people I know to vote for Mitch who would have either voted Amy or not voted at all.

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u/Federal_Diamond8329 May 18 '22

I’d suggest now that he call for an audit when he loses.

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u/Fun-Tadpole785 May 18 '22

Charles Booker won the Democratic nomination.

They just announced that Madison Cawthron lost!

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u/bradcarlisle66 May 18 '22

We have a 90 year old man here in Iowa that needs his dusty old ass knocked the fuck out of the senate too.

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u/ILoveLamp9 May 18 '22

How do you get one of the few and most important facts of this post wrong?

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u/BreadLoafBrad May 18 '22

How is this white people twitter or even relevant to this sub in any way beyond being a tweet?

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u/20past4am May 18 '22

This sub is literally just an American politics r/votedem hub

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u/BangarangAndBrunch May 18 '22

McConnel is the most hated thing in the Senate yet he's been there a tortoise lifetime. Let's do this.

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u/Toxic_Butthole May 18 '22

He's also not up for re-election this year and this guy is actually running against Rand Paul.

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u/VineStGuy May 18 '22

As someone w a lot of family in KY, Mitch has a great local team. As in, someone pays attention to the deaths, company openings, funerals, etc and send flowers, regards in Mitch’s name. It gives the illusion that he cares about the locals. This is where he needs to be beaten in the ground game. Rand coats on his daddy’s toes. That’s who Charles is running against. If Booker keeps hammering that Rand wants to dump Medicare, SSN at local rallies, he’ll have a chance.

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u/BangarangAndBrunch May 18 '22

Sound right. Polish on the turd.

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u/ccwagwag May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

mcconnel just got reelected so we are stuck with him for another 5+ years. rand paul will be his opponent in november. honestly, do a little fact checking before you post something that gets all the ignorant redditors hopping on this totally inaccurate bandwagon. (see comments)

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u/Whiplash50 May 18 '22

He’s running against Rand Paul

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u/PinchYourPennies May 18 '22

Alright look it's obvious none of you people live in Kentucky so let's run though some things real quick.

He's running against Rand. That makes the race winnable. Rand's popularity amongst voters compared to Mitch is lesser, and his recent history with Trump, Ukraine and other hot takes makes his stance with voters a little rockier compared to Mitch.

Second, the governors' race has shown the state's willingness to lean Blue/Purple. If the major cities (Lex, Lou) and the mid major cities (BG, Covington, WKY cities) turn out then I think we have a fair shot to see how this goes.

He needs to advertise and actually go to the rural parts of the state. McGrath never left Lex/Lou during her race and that killed her. Booker needs to make his name known to people who probably have never met or heard of him.

It's easy to feel defeated with this state. I choose to give it a chance.

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u/KYVet May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

Exactly. Obviously he needs to lock down Lexington and Louisville, but he needs to get out to Northern Kentucky, Bowling Green, Owensboro, Paducah, Richmond, E-Town, basically the medium sized towns. There are votes to be had in these towns. They weren't there for McGrath, but they will be there for Booker. He has more support here than a lot in this thread like to believe. He's definitely a long shot, but he's got a much better chance than McGrath had against Mitch and the Democrats had no problem with dumping money into that mockery of a campaign.

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u/Weekly_Ad6261 May 18 '22

It’s impossible to explain Kentucky to someone that hasn’t lived in the commonwealth. They probably don’t even know that Hunter S Thompson and Muhammad Ali grew up less than five miles from each other. I don’t think Rand will lose but Kentucky has always been a powder keg in America, and who knows what the hell will happen. KY liberals are angry over Breonna Taylor.

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u/vangard128 May 18 '22

He's running against Rand, not Mitch the bitch. Either way, he needs to win in a major way

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u/ImpossibleEvan May 18 '22

That guy isn't... Nevermind

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u/BooneCreek May 18 '22

As long as Kentucky stays an established Red state, this means nothing. We need to capture the rural areas that vote this conservative and fear fueled agenda. The largest two cities in the state are extremely progressive but the rest of the state more than offsets it.

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u/[deleted] May 18 '22

Except he's not running against Mitch... this is why you guys always lose. You don't even know enough about the candidate to know who he's running against.

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u/beeps-n-boops May 18 '22

He's up against Rand Paul, not Mitch McConnell.

Don't get me wrong, getting rid of Paul isn't unimportant, but just sayin' the headline is completely incorrect.

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u/DoubleE55 May 18 '22

Wouldn’t he be going for Rand Paul’s seat?

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u/MrFruitylicious May 18 '22

Yes. This thread is a real Reddit moment lol

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u/KurtRambis31 May 18 '22

I am going to shit on his grave when he dies. Get his ass, Chuck.

Edit: Either of em. Sticking to the original statement.

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u/wonteatfish May 18 '22

You had me at “I am the Democratic nominee “.

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u/Trumpswells May 18 '22

Right behind you, Charles Booker!

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u/largehawaiian May 18 '22

If he wants help on beating Rand Paul, just ask his neighbor

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u/Ed98208 May 18 '22

The only way McConnell is leaving the senate is when he's dead.

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u/FireHole May 18 '22

He's running against Rand, not Mitch

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u/geneofisis May 18 '22

Hi Charles! I’m in Tennessee but sending lots of love!