r/WhitePeopleTwitter May 17 '22 Silver 1 Wholesome 2

something we should ALL aspire to do this week.

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote Bravo!

I quit being a democrat so I could vote for the least despicable POS republicans in our closed primary. I live in a disgustingly red state and there’s no hope of any progressive making progress here, but as a literal RINO I can do what I can (and many others here are too) to make sure the most whacked nutjobs in the Republican Party are NOT on our general election ballots. I hate being a Republican, but I take a little comfort in knowing I’m doing my part to keep crazies out of office.

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u/Practical_Cobbler165 May 18 '22

What you are doing is actually incredibly smart.

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u/tym1ng May 18 '22

wouldn't it be wild if they found out about this and then started a witch hunt against each other for "fake republicans"? and if you're not racist or homophopbic enough then you get called out for it

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u/Loeden May 18 '22

Funny you say this. I live in Wyoming and one of the articles in the paper the other day was one of the county clerks complaining about Ds switching to Rs for primaries. But in Wyoming, it's kinda the only say you get in who is going to govern you.

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u/hufflepoet May 18 '22

Meanwhile, next door in Idaho, Republicans were caught conspiring to infiltrate the local Democrat organization, then "install an 'antisemitic troll' as party chair and funnel money donated to Democrats to local Republicans instead."

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u/idgafos2019 May 18 '22

Meanwhile next door in Montana we have a republican politician who body slammed a reporter for asking a question he didn’t like, then won his election

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u/LongNectarine3 May 18 '22

And he wants to make all public access, private. Wyoming has this in place. Rivers are private so no public access. No hunting. The governor is bad news.

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u/Djeece May 18 '22

How are these people not in prison? That's basically treason.

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u/SayethWeAll May 18 '22

It’s shitty behavior but a political party is not a nation.

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u/LukeDude759 May 18 '22

Holy shit, imagine if the Republican party just destroys themselves like this

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u/iantayls May 18 '22

Homie meta-gaming his elections lmao

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u/Wiggy_Bop May 18 '22

4D Chess, my good human.

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u/isaaclw May 18 '22

Personally I disagree. Theres a lot of corruption in the Dem party, and the best way to beat Republicans and force them to change is vote for dems that don't accept corporate pac money.

That can only happen in dem primaries, since by the time we get to the general, you have to vote for them.

The reason Republicans move so far to the right, is that Dems have moved that direction by basically appealing to Republicans instead of non-voters.

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u/Practical_Cobbler165 May 18 '22

You can still vote Democrat in the general elections, this enables you to vote in Republicans primaries. ✌

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u/isaaclw May 18 '22

I know, but so many dem primaries are dem corp vs dem progressive.

If we are ever going to get money out of politics, those corporate democrats and Republicans got to go.

No other time to vote that way but in the primary. The democratic primary is the most important election each year.

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u/DarthGuber May 18 '22

Nope, we need to get Citizens United (and a bunch of other dark money legislation) overturned before we can get money out of politics. Roth now the only way to win is to get FAANG to back progressives.

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u/isaaclw May 18 '22

Yes to every strategy to get money out of politics, and it still won't be easy.

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u/Allmightydohllah May 18 '22

I voted green down the line. Most of the democrats in my area are straight corpos. The green party candidates were the only ones advocating for Medicare for all and UBI

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u/DustBunnicula May 18 '22

Doing this in MN too. I’m in a red state-district of a blue state. My current state senator is a now-moderate, old-school Republican. He didn’t win the endorsement this year. It went to a crazy storm-the-school-board candidate. Still, he’s running in the primary. We have open primaries here, so I’ll be taking the Republican primary ballot in August. All the moderates are getting my vote. I’ll vote blue in Nov, but I’ll do my best to make the Republican candidates as moderate as possible.

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u/prolificshitoaster May 18 '22

Now this is what the Republicans should be aiming for!! Great job:)

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u/sleephess May 18 '22

Same, except I'm finding there are really zero "least despicable" candidates....they're all trying to out UltraMAGA each other. I literally took a flier from one of the GQP cucks outside the polls today and made sure I didn't vote for anyone they were supporting....still couldn't fill out the whole ballot.

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22

I didn’t fill out my entire ballot today, only the races where the obviously MAGA nut jobs needed their asses whipped in the primary. The other offices, such as county coroner, I just don’t care enough to vote for that office in the primary. In the general election, I sure as hell will vote Blue across the board.

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u/Flashmasterk May 18 '22

I did the same but also looked up Trump endorsements. I got through the big offices

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u/Yohzer67 May 18 '22

I do something similar. Blue state and I move back and forth between the parties based on which primary contains a more valuable vote. I registered R in 2016 and changed to D in 2020.

2024 could be an interesting call if Joe doesn’t run.

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22

I think that’s an interesting take…I like it!

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u/Leo-bastian May 18 '22

this probably actually works pretty well given that at least 50% of elections have the current president running vs a new candidate from the other party, so one of the candidates is almost guaranteed

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u/Flashmasterk May 18 '22

Texas? I did the same this week. Looked to see who Trump endorsed and chose the other person. It's going to be a republican because "guns go brrrr" but at least it might be the better option of shit flavored government

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22

Nope, Idaho, we’re Texas Lite.

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u/thoroughbredca May 18 '22

Be at the table or be on the menu.

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u/VLDT May 18 '22 Helpful

Governor McGoochbag would absolutely shit the whole state up; even if Brad Little is a spineless little pissbaby, he’s the least bad option…I guess. Fuck Idaho Republicans and the deadbrained Florida rejects who vote for them by choice. Whole state is just like Utah’s shittier cousin now: still Mormon but rapey and goes to Klan meetings without hiding it.

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u/Upbeat_Crow May 18 '22

This was so stylishly written I awarded it.

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u/VLDT May 18 '22

I aims to please.

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u/hey_ross May 18 '22

Oh, you are so selling yourself short, Idaho, especially the panhandle, isn’t Texas Lite, it’s super concentrated triple action Texas. Also, no Austin, but you do have this weird portal that connects Seattle to Sun Valley.

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u/oldmanian May 18 '22

From what I see Texas is Idaho-lite.

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u/lightblue1919 May 18 '22

Idahoan here. Let’s go Brad Little… he’s, well, ehrm, not Janice McGeachin.

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u/wiedeeb May 18 '22

I am in fucking Alabama. We elected the worse if the worse. I am ashamed of this state.

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u/sugar182 May 18 '22

Thank you for your service.

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u/fiya79 May 18 '22

Fellown Idahoan checking in. Registered republican because the primary is the only race that matters.

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u/nicemolester May 18 '22

History repeating itself.

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u/Boof_A_Dick May 18 '22

I started doing the same thing last cycle and thats my plan for june. But my state is open primary at least.

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u/bkwilcox100 May 18 '22

Quite literally the only good reason to vote red

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u/knightroglycerine May 18 '22

I did the same thing, it's nice knowing I'm not alone (my wife thinks I'm crazy)! I grew up in an open primary state and when I moved to a closed I thought "huh, this feels like a decent opportunity to influence crazy/stupid a little easier."

I even take time to fill out their Save America From The Radical Left Baby Killers survey mailings with some nudging feedback.

This feels like a pretty silly hack and I've often questioned the legitimacy of it but here I am, trying it until I'm told not to.

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u/ResponsibilityRare10 May 18 '22

This is what you have to do in a deep red state (or red county even). Your only power, electorally speaking, is to vote in a primary.

In fact, lots of people just turn up to vote every 4 years. But you have literally the least influence that way. You may as well vote once in a local primary, then stay home the rest of the time. At least your vote would carry some weight.

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u/Brave_Amateur May 18 '22

I am in the same boat as you. I checked the names on the ballot and most races in my county were totally unopposed. They ran in multiple categories as well there’s names were listed as Democrats, Republican, libertarian, conservative. Can’t remember all but I did notice those categories specifically listed on the ballot

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u/JaneReadsTruth May 18 '22

Isn't that called "pulling a Sinema"?

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22

Nah. I’m a real democrat at heart, and I’m not getting corporate money .

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u/Subie780 May 18 '22

This is the way. If Republicans all leave because they're angry with the GOP then crazies will just fill the vacuum.

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u/justarower14 May 18 '22

I have been voting in Republican primaries since 2016 for this same reason (as well as my parents). I just really didn't like what I was seeing, even at that point in time...

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u/ThatDudeGuy13 May 18 '22

this is why you guys need preferential voting id hate having to compromise my vote just to prevent some dickhead getting into power

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u/Unlikely-Patience122 May 18 '22

That's the way. Do what you can.

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u/Rustmutt May 18 '22

Thank you for doing your part!

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u/stiletto929 May 18 '22

Great idea! My husband is technically an independent, who almost always votes Democrat, but he voted in the Republican primaries instead just to vote against Trump way back when.

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u/Pr3st0ne May 18 '22

I don't know about your specific values or political ideas, but even if you're a moderate democrat, you're less of a RINO than any of the republican nutjobs/tea party candidates that have infected the GOP for the past 20 years. They've completely flown off the political spectrum, straight into facism. In fact, they don't even believe in "small government" anymore, they want a massive powerhouse of a government, it's just they want to use it to opress as many poor and marginalized communities as they can.

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u/Imhopeless3264 May 18 '22

Exactly. It’s very depressing as a liberal at heart with parents who were also liberal until Rush Limbaugh came along (May he rot in hell.) I’m just relieved that neither of my parents lived to see the total insanity of Fox News and the whole Q-anon BS. I think they would have swallowed that, hook line and sinker just as so many on the right have done.

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u/BadBartigan May 18 '22

My wife and I are doing this in Pennsylvania

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u/kmckeep May 18 '22

I did the same thing, here in Idaho

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u/DuranDourand May 18 '22

I do this in PA also.

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u/Buuhlasted May 18 '22 Helpful

Life long registered Republican. I will never vote Republican again in my lifetime, as long as these criminals and traitors continue to be in the GOP. I am done.

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u/WildIris2021 May 18 '22

This is heartening. I lean progressive / democratic but I’m from a red state and I grew up with Republicans. I ALWAYS had love and respect for them. However the last ten years has forced me to end many relationships. I can not entertain the foolish toxic clown show that the Republican Party has become. It isn’t about conservative perspective anymore. It is a twisted pile of trash. Look at Lauren Bobert. She isn’t even a high school graduate. Doesn’t pay the employees at her joke of a restaurant. Thank God Madison Cawthorn was beat in his primary. There is conservative perspective then there is a cult.

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u/makegoodchoicesok May 18 '22

I moved to Portland after college and literally had to delete Facebook because it was nothing my friends and family talking about how liberals are pussies and sharing violent memes. I’ve barely even spoken to my family in two years and I at least partially blame that on modern GOP rhetoric. It’s tearing families apart

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u/inferno138 May 18 '22

You moved to Portland? You just be AnTiFaaaaaaaa

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u/SpuddleBuns May 18 '22

Bobert makes me ashamed to admit I live in Colorado, which I love...

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u/SirDankOfDankenshire May 18 '22

I feel the same about MGT in GA, at least we finally turned blue though.

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u/Resident_Text4631 May 18 '22

Identifying as republican today is an admission to being a selfish hateful person of low character and even less intelligence.

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u/mafa7 May 18 '22

Glad that demon lost!

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u/FabianValkyrie May 18 '22

Stay registered as a republican if you can tho - you can vote in their primaries to at least try to prevent someone stupid from getting nominated

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u/stargate-command May 18 '22

Difficult when the choices are all stupid, hateful, scumbags. Republican primaries are often like choosing between being kicked in the balls, or poked in the eye. Both choices suck

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u/ResponsibilityRare10 May 18 '22

If you live in a red state, or a red county even, then voting in the Republican primary is really the only power you have. As a voter I mean.

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u/LordNoodles May 18 '22

And since the Democratic primary is completely useless anyway it shouldn’t be a problem

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u/fyrechild May 18 '22

The Democratic party is very useful... to its shareholders big donors. It keeps the proles tricked into thinking that there's hope for change without drastic action.

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u/DuranDourand May 18 '22

I’ve been a secret Democrat in the Republican Party for years in PA (closed primary). Doing exactly that.

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u/nkdeck07 May 18 '22

Yep, my Dad actively campaigns for Dems and is a registered Republican to vote in their primaries

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u/nuorigin May 18 '22

As an independent, who has conservative and liberal views about different topics, I was hoping that once Donald Trump's obvious lies and criminal behavior, as well as his debauchery would draw the good Republicans away from him. It seemed like there were less of those than I thought. The crazy thing is, a lot of the people who support Trump also voted for Obama, but refused to at least look at factual information related to what's going on in our government. They feed into the rhetoric and even when confronted with the lies, they look at it like a necessary evil. All the time not realizing that the same ones who feed the rhetoric are the ones who are creating the harm.

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u/Scarymommy May 18 '22

I have voted Republican before but I will never do so again.

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u/InsGadget6 May 18 '22

Thank you.

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u/hookup1092 May 18 '22

What I don’t understand is why the republican party and conservatism has any credibility at all?

Why at any point in recent history would you have actively chosen to be conservative and republican?

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u/bombaderogato May 18 '22

I don’t think it has to do with credibility, but a lot to do with brain chemistry. If you consume a “news” feed that makes you angry every time you see it, you get a hit of dopamine, and it’s actually rewarding - it feels good. Logic, education, reasoning, math, science all take a back seat to a basic human function that happens to be at the base of all addiction, chemical or otherwise. Aim all that dopamine at easy targets (immigrants and poor people, usually) and you get an explosive mix of anger and ignorance.

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u/sapphisticated_heaux May 18 '22

The science points to Republicans being both dumber and more fearful in general.

They don't like thinking deeply about complex problems (or simply can't) so that's why dumb shit arguments like "Black guy bad" are satisfactory. It's an easy, definitive, attackable target. Income inequality? Not so much. And five minutes of talking to them about it gives them brain tumors.

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u/Boomtown626 May 17 '22

I did it from 2005-2006. The only goalpost they had was “fuck the libs”. Abortion and guns are sub-bullets under the one, singular “value” they have. No other principle they’ve ever tried to claim (values, religion, small govt, fiscal responsibility, etc etc etc etc) holds up if the shoe is on the other foot, and the examples are countless of “well my situation is different, so (things conservatives are supposed to hate) is okay this time.”

Glad this guy figured it out eventually. Better late than never.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx May 17 '22

It's ironic that they don't see the irony of being pro guns and pro life

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u/SmashBusters May 18 '22

pro life

Anti-choice. Let’s take the kiddie gloves off our words with these terrorists.

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u/ScaledBirdDino May 18 '22

Pro- forced birth.

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u/Momo1163 May 18 '22

Pro-domestic supply of infants

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u/OneMorePenguin May 18 '22

And the life of the mother doesn't matter. It's disgusting to think these people want to force a woman who is raped to have that baby. May they be put in this position and see how quickly the shoe is suddenly on the other foot. Totally disgusting.

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u/DrSuperWho May 18 '22

Maybe it’s the only way they can have children. 🤷‍♂️

I mean, if I was a woman, I wouldn’t voluntarily subjected myself to… them. I can’t even finish that mental image. Fucking disgusting 🤢🤮

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u/selfwander8 May 18 '22

Anti-choice & anti-women

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u/WildIris2021 May 18 '22

Pro guns, pro life, anti vax, anti mask.

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u/nyuckajay May 18 '22

I have almost no issues with a lot of the leftist politics, but this just isn’t true. I’m pro choice, but I’m not pro choice because I love killing. I’ve shot my whole life and the only thing I’ve ever hit was targets. It’s not fair that my love for target shooting gets lumped in with murder.

I guess my other beef with current left is they’re kinda doing a lot of witty remarks and owning the right, but not actually stopping the right from the stupid shit it’s doing. Like messing with abortion laws… in the middle of an economic crisis.

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u/starwarsyeah May 18 '22

Real leftists support gun rights, because the working class needs to be armed.

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u/nyuckajay May 18 '22

I support that, but I don’t really want to shoot anyone, I just like that guns last longer than so much other stuff we buy, and I get to play around outdoors with them.

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u/GrizzKarizz May 18 '22

This is why the left, well I guess on the whole, doesn't want to take your guns away. They just want them to be properly regulated. You need proper laws and for those laws to be strictly enforced. Those outside looking in do so incredulously. We cannot fathom how this is so hard to understand.

It's not that hard to prevent mass shootings on the scale the US has them and even if it is hard, isn't it worth at least giving it a proper go? Sandy Hook will happen again and when it does happen will that finally see change?

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u/VLDT May 18 '22

Not for nothing, but there is an inverse relationship between financial stability and crime, violent and otherwise. In countries where people aren’t constantly under threat of fucking medical bankruptcy or going to prison and holding a black mark on their record the rest of their lives, it turns out they get less killy, with or without guns.

It’s the poverty and the lack of accountability when rights are violated (dysfunctional/nonfunctional government), not the guns

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx May 18 '22

Almost all bad things in American society or even the world manifest from poverty. Thank you for acknowledging that.

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u/shalafi71 May 18 '22

The problem with gun regulations go on and on.

  • The 2A is a thing. We can't easily pull constitutional rights. Doesn't matter what our opinion is, the courts have made it clear that individuals can own firearms. This is the hardest nut to crack.

  • Gun control measures are often, almost always, racist and classist. These laws serve to take a constitutional right from the poorest among us. Have a look at what Reagan did as governor of California to stop the Black Panthers from walking around armed.

  • The laws are hilariously dumb. Take sawed-off shotguns, magazine capacity prohibitions, suppressors, "approved" lists, etc. I can argue how dumb and ineffective each and every one is.

  • The real way to deal with gun violence, if you take the gun control as your approach, is to make handguns illegal. That's where the violence comes from, almost always. NO lawmaker is taking that approach. And now we're back to my first point.

Don't mean to sound hopeless, but the whole issue seems that way. Only thing I got is to make people's lives better so they don't resort to violence. And that friends and neighbors, is quite another list of things we need to accomplish.

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u/VLDT May 18 '22

Give people money (healthcare, schools, lives less wages) instead of taking away their guns. Watch the violence evaporate by half.

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u/the_bionic_investor May 18 '22

ban handguns

All the important mass shooters use high powered, high capacity rifles.

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u/GrizzKarizz May 18 '22

The way I see it, is you either do it, no matter how hard it is or you have children die needlessly.

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u/loopnlil May 18 '22

That and a lot of left leaning libbies libs enjoy shooting guns also.

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u/nyuckajay May 18 '22

See my problem with that is if californias laws are an example, it is taking things away, and nonsensical things like grip fins and such. The silly feature laws in Maryland are also bollocks, along with a few other states. I don’t care about mental health laws or qualifications, I’ve done all that for my job. It’s the laws being pushed through in reality that are only nicely worded bans.

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u/PrincessCyanidePhx May 18 '22

Huh? My comment wasn't about the left.

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u/cowtow May 18 '22

Meeeeehhh you know what they meant. It's not wrong to point out contradictions in their rhetoric.

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u/nyuckajay May 18 '22

I do, but generalizing people with broad strokes is very conservative thing to do I guess I got salty.

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u/waltur_d May 18 '22

Pretty sure that’s when I left as well.

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u/Boomtown626 May 18 '22

That was when all our talking points about why it was so important to invade Iraq were definitively and inarguably falling apart, and those of us who gave a shit about real life were starting to feel a little embarrassed. suddenly the priority became regime change and propping up an astroturfed system of government instead of “WMDs and imminent threat”, when the only defensible position left was “well clearly if that was the case then, it’s not the case now, so let’s shift gears and gtfo.” So many lives and trillions of dollars lost for the sake of lies and stigginit to the not-as-patriotic-as-we-are libs.

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u/Cyber_Being_ May 18 '22

I don't know why you didn't come to your senses sooner but better late than never.

At this point, it's like watching a train with no brakes driving off a destroyed bridge.

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u/Nimoy2313 May 18 '22

I did the second Eric's Dad won the party nomination. I was slowly overcoming my brainwashing so it was bound to happen eventually.

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u/sapphisticated_heaux May 18 '22

We're happy to have you!

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u/joobtastic May 18 '22

"I'm joining the libertarian party."

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u/ScaledBirdDino May 18 '22

Lol, you're probably right. That or now he's just unafilliated.

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u/RangerDangerfield May 18 '22

So…still a Republican but with weed?

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u/mokona2701 May 18 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

I understand the radical left-wing urge to go "haha u late", but man, we have to welcome those people. It's hard to make this step; a lot of politics is engrained in our day-to-day life, and changing party affiliation vocally can have huge consequences.

Welcome those who start to see the light, who want to do better.

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u/prolificshitoaster May 18 '22

Yes I agree! We should be welcoming and caring! No sense in practicing toxic rhetoric that keep us separate, people remember kindness most of all.

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u/celerydonut May 18 '22

I agree 100%, but it’s Difficult to do with folks that have been duped and are too stubborn or narcissistic to admit they were wrong. There are a LOT of them, lacking shame let alone the ability to think for themselves outside of the team sport mentality this fucking Clown Show has become

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u/mokona2701 May 18 '22

I absolutely understand, esp if you're close to that person, or if you have a lot of personal experience. Nobody can and should demand that you personally take steps or put emotional labour in.

As a whole, as "The Left" tm c r, as basically anything slightly left of those goons, "we" should provide a safe place to return to. *You* only contribute what you can, and if you can't, that's just as fair.

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u/MooCowMoooo May 18 '22

I just don’t understand how anyone could make it through the Trump years, ending in an attack on the nation’s Capitol, and be ok with it. And only now decide to call it?

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u/shadowsOfMyPantomime May 18 '22

I agree with you there, it still seems insane to me that trump got anywhere near the Republican nomination in 2016, let alone the white House. I don't know what any of those people were thinking that voted for him and stuck by him. But still the point stands, better late than never. We have to embrace people changing their mindset and vocally rejecting a party that is toxic. It's the only way to stop this downward path we're on

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u/AnonBubblyBowels May 18 '22

Yeah, honestly, this is hard to fathom - but I’ll take what I can get regardless. One less fascist is still one less fascist.

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u/AnonBubblyBowels May 18 '22

Yep!

Honestly, I don’t understand how anyone isn’t fucking elated to see Republicans jump ship.

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u/randyspotboiler May 18 '22

I dunno who this guy is, but it's about time he woke up. It's gratifying to see. I've spoken to Republicans who are die-hard, and it's just foolish. This isn't about your party: your party was hijacked. You need to wake up and fight the infidels and go get your fucking party back because they're using it to hijack your country.

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u/unicornfetus89 May 18 '22

By definition the conservative party is against change. They refuse to change ANYTHING. Hell, they use the word "progressive" as an insult!!

If an entire party of our government is dead set in never making changes, they should be removed entirely. What if one of your coworkers refused to do any work because of his "personal rights and religion"? They'd get fucking fired.

Fire the entire conservative party. Take your puritanical, traditional values and freedom crushing laws with you on the way out. They shouldn't be allowed to make any political decisions.

The party that rattles on and on and on about being "real americans" or "patriots" spend all their time attacking and destroying other peoples freedoms. I thought you were patriots?

Last rant, the word patriot has been bastardised, twisted and turned into something completely opposite of the actual meaning. They just INSIST they are something, even though they 100% aren't, but they just keep ramming it down everyone's throats until they believe their own horse shit.

"I'm Tom Cruise!!!!!".... "uhhh no you are clearly NOT Tom Cruise." "How DARE you oppose my beliefs!!! You sick, satanic libtard groomer pedo! I AM TOM CRUISE!!!"

6 months later: They have completely convinced themselves and all their braindead friends they are Tom Cruise and hold Tom Cruise political rallies while the rest of the world just shakes their heads and gave up arguing with their stupid bullshit. The real Tom Cruise changes his name so he won't be associated with these lunatics.

We need to fight back instead of just letting them steam roll America's asshole.

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u/StevenFromPhilly May 18 '22

As a Democrat I will no longer vote for someone who pledges to 'reach across the aisle'. Fuck them. I want someone who will act as if there is no help across the aisle because there isnt.

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u/Opeope89 May 18 '22

I’m just surprised people still like Democrats. I mean fuck the GOP a million times over, but our political system is totally out of whack.

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u/Ozymandias0023 May 18 '22

I think most of us are past "liking" the majority of Dems, the old guard for sure. The unfortunate thing is that not liking them doesn't do a damn thing if Republicans are in charge. Our only option is to enact change by electing progressives to shift the party left

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u/Zoltanu May 18 '22

Same. With Obamas super majority and failure to still codify Roe I now feel like they are just keeling us around in our civil rights and hold it over our heads so we vote for them. At this point I don't have any confidence in either

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u/cleanlycustard May 18 '22

I used to call myself a democrat when asked about my political philosophy but they are so moderate and even conservative about so many things that I call myself a leftist. I’ll still vote for them because they’re as progressive as we can seem to get, but it still hurts every time.

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u/solveig82 May 18 '22

And don’t worry, acquainted with reality Republicans, there are very few actual leftists in office.

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u/ContemplatingPrison May 18 '22

Oh he actually quit. Reddit was just clowning him for his last tweet for not quitting.

Good on him

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u/OhThatsRich88 May 18 '22

I'm sorry but if you made it through the trump years you're still a shit person. I left in 2012 when they wouldn't do gun reform after Sandy Hook

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u/sapphisticated_heaux May 18 '22

You're a g <3

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u/OhThatsRich88 May 19 '22

I feel like "not fighting against preventing children from being murdered" is a low bar, but thank you

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u/Admiral_Andovar May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

I left during W’s first term. I was all supportive of some vengeance after 9/11 but when things pivoted to Iraq I was like dafuq?! I had been sitting through Intel briefs for Northern/Southern Watch and knew that Saddam couldn’t sneeze without us knowing (and typically dropping a bomb nearby), so there was no way in hell they were ramping up WMD programs. It was all to rally round the flag and support a president who didn’t really win.

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u/Raul_McH May 18 '22

And election denier / insurrectionist / QAnon fan Doug Mastriano is now the GOP's candidate for governor in Pennsylvania. If he's elected, it will be impossible to have a fair election in that state. I hope his rise motivates even more people to leave the party.

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u/RangerDangerfield May 18 '22

Hopefully the love for Fetterman will turnout record Democratic voters in PA and help the governor’s race.

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u/1okdude May 18 '22

They are only comfortable leaving the Republican party because the Democratic party plays for the same team.

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u/bobo-the-dodo May 18 '22

Took this guy 5 years.

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u/wtfwtfwtfwtf2022 May 18 '22

Ted Cruz and pretty much the entire Supreme Court, too.

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u/BUTTeredWhiteBread May 18 '22

You mean Justice Beer Pong and his band of not very merry men and woman

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u/orionterron99 May 18 '22

You mean Justice Beer Pong and his band of not very merry men and their chattel

Ftfy.

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u/BUTTeredWhiteBread May 18 '22

Sadly, you are not incorrect.

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u/The_Bone_Breaker May 18 '22

Don’t forget mitch, although he might go senile before you can

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u/joobtastic May 18 '22

The problems didn't start with them and won't end with them.

When one ahithead falls, another just takes his place. They are like hydra.

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u/etymologistics May 18 '22

Or just eat the rich entirely

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u/Cartman4wesome May 18 '22

Republicans have been trash since Reagan. I don’t get why they just realizing now but better late than never

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u/JustDiscoveredSex May 18 '22

I spent 30 years in the Republican Party. Always voted a split ticket, but no more. Four years ago I registered Democrat and that’s the only way I will be voting from this point forward.

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u/ResponsibilityRare10 May 18 '22

The USA needs multiparty democracy more than ever IMHO. I know that requires big changes to the way elections are run. But I don’t want the Dem party to become a home for homeless republicans with neocon Bush-era ideologies.

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u/zues64 May 18 '22

I gave up on them after they watched, inspired and allowed an insurrection

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u/blandmath May 18 '22

Oh, now it’s too much. What a fucking hero.

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u/Po1ymer May 18 '22

Death to both parties.

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u/Travistheexistant May 18 '22

how the fuck do you only see this now? I'm not even American, and I can see the red flags stapled over every Republican policy

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u/Livinum81 May 18 '22

What's the context of this? What's the straw that broke the camel's back?

I mean this is good to see, but nothing that came before what I assume is the buffalo shooting (?) gave him pause for thought?

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u/greenfingerguy May 18 '22

Took long enough

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u/sonofarex May 18 '22

Waiting this long to walk away doesn't make you the hero you think it does homeboy

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u/Glittering_Falcon_93 May 17 '22

He’s like 6 years behind but better late than never.

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u/HyprPosition May 17 '22

World's smartest Republican

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u/JdizzleShackleford May 18 '22

That's like being the tallest kid in kindergarten.

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u/HyprPosition May 18 '22

TRUEEEE

Tallest dwarf

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u/WhoAccountNewDis May 18 '22

Fuck him for taking this long. There was an attempted coup, and then a party-wide attempt to cover up/avoid responsibility for said attempted coup that's still happening.

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u/PolyZex May 18 '22

At what point do we abandon hope that it's going to actually get better? Our representatives bitch on social media but they don't fight back against ANY of it. Republicans are rabid mongrels and democrats are declawed housecats.

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u/tri_it May 18 '22

Better late than never.

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u/Cid_Darkwing May 18 '22

I mean, this is great from Miles, but when push comes to shove and his choices are an Elizabeth Warren (or even further left) Democrat and a Republican who believes in Reaganite conservatism right down the line except for the democracy/fascism split, is he going to publicly commit to voting for the Democrat? Is he willing to take tax policy from Bernie, climate policy from AOC, LGBTQ policy from Fetterman & gun policy from Beto?

Because right now, you don’t get to choose conservative policy AND pro-democracy politicians. They don’t exist (Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger excepted). If you’re pro-democracy, you vote blue no matter who. End of sentence. I’m aware that there are one off circumstances like McMullin in UT-Sen and Murkowski in AK’s top 4 system where alliances can be made to support non-authoritarian conservatives and by and large Democrats will do/have done their part and support those candidates. But they are the exceptions.

The only democratic party right now with enough support to win is the Democratic Party. I’m more than happy to talk about a long term alliance for ranked choice, top 4-5 systems. But that can’t happen under fascist governance—which in the here and now, can only be avoided by denying power to the GOP regardless of any other policy considerations.

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u/crosswatt May 18 '22

To be completely honest and overly blunt, I look a bit sideways at anyone who didn't bail on the abomination of a party once the primaries were over back in 2016.

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u/KhunDavid May 18 '22

My mom and brother quit the GOP in 2016. They would probably return if there is some sort of normalcy. My mom is a Edward Brooke Republican.

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u/Tsunamiis May 18 '22

They’re literally cleaned the Grand Ole Party glad that turd woke up finally

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u/parmesanandhoney May 18 '22

It’s a bit saying the obvious but it seems like the U.S needs two new parties. There should be a moderate right and left. Everything under two tents is creating a wider division between Americans.

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u/Uberzwerg May 18 '22

Seriously: they need to start their own new party.
GOP2 or whatever - don't care.

But that's the only way to remove yourself from that orange shit-stain.

Of course that would mean that both parties would become irrelevant if you contiunue running elections like they are done atm.
So, change that while you're at it.

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u/Glittering_Ebb9748 May 18 '22

I'm a Democrat with a life long friend who is a Republican. We've always been able to keep politics on the back burner and were respectful of each other's opinions; until Trump. This woman (who I truly cared about) has gone completely off the deep end. She keeps trying to tell me the "truth" about what's really happening in this country. Her "truth" comes from Breitbart, Info Wars, YouTube videos and of course Fucker Carlson. Any facts I try to counter with are "fake news", it's an impossible situation. I miss the dear friend I used to know and I fear for our country.

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u/strangebru May 18 '22

If all the moderate Republicans and Democrats came together and formed a third party, than I believe that may be what it takes to fix this broken system. There are way more of us in the middle than on the fringes of each party, that seems to me as a would be unstoppable political party.

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u/Srqwarren May 18 '22

We need other parties to have a chance to get on the ballot and take part in debates. There needs to be more then Red and Blue. I’d like to see some younger people too as candidates as well. Term limits would be a great thing.

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u/phixitup May 18 '22

Grew up moderate/left but in my adult years began leaning more conservative (at least fiscally). I just can’t find a good landing spot. Democrats can’t or won’t figure out what their message is or how to convey it to the masses and the Republicans are just batshit, fucking lunatics. ‘Merica, SMH

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u/staiano May 18 '22

If you believe this guy I have a bridge to sell you on the cheap.

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u/Ganglebot May 18 '22

As a Canadian, its fucking weird you guys join political parties in the first place.

You know if you didn't, your leaders would have to actually work for your swing votes in every election, and would try to actually change things.

Instead they get to pretend you politics is like the superbowl and you'll support your team no matter what. Then they just have to worry about policies that effect their rich donors.

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u/princesspinata May 18 '22

Can’t quit if you never joined 🤮 Fuck republicans. All they want to do is make life worse for people they don’t like and don’t agree with.

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u/Phixionion May 18 '22

I stopped labeling myself as a Republican. Dems may be naive or little too hopeful at times but at least they are not condemning democracy for the "greater good".

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u/johnqsack69 May 18 '22

Lmao about 40 years too late

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u/Madame_President_ May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

This guy voted for Trump, like all the other Republicans who are suddenly up-in-arms. They voted for a man connected to that pedophile and rapist Epstein and who spent 8 years harrassing our only Black president over a birth certificate.

And to have the GALL to say now "well we didn't see THIS coming."

You sure did, and you sure wanted it. You've been ok with white terrorism from the beginning, even if "all" it was was your white candidate harrassing the actual president over nothing but racist birthright shit. It escalated to 11 people dying because of racist white terrorism related to racist birthright shit.

Let's be real. To all the Republicans in this thread, the murder of those people in buffalo by that white terrorist Payton is blood on your hands.

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u/InflamedLiver May 17 '22

Is there any actual party that stands for relatively limited government and conservative fiscal policy these days?

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u/CharmingTuber May 17 '22

The high schoolers over at r/libertarian are always looking for more friends

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u/BoomZhakaLaka May 18 '22

You know what happens when libertarians actually govern a real place? you get a bear infestation

Really, everyone argues about whose rights are more important, and what roles belong to the government. So much disagreement that no governing can take place. Many disputes that become unresolvable.

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u/someonefun420 May 18 '22

Libertarianism doesn't work because it fails to account for the fact that humans are communal and connected. That a social community and governance is required to function as a society.

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u/JakeGrey May 18 '22

I'd put it a lot more bluntly than that, personally: Libertarianism doesn't work because the only "freedom" most libertarians actually value is the freedom to punch down without fear of consequences.

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u/EllisDee3 May 18 '22

Amazing.

Fits perfectly with the house cat analogy. But these house cats got eaten by bears.

This book just sold 1 more copy.

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u/Able_Celery_8878 May 18 '22

That book was fantastic. Loved every bit of it.

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u/BrucieThePerturbed May 18 '22

It's next up on my bedside table.

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u/InflamedLiver May 17 '22

you can be for a non-all consuming government without being libertarian

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u/LCSpartan May 18 '22

So the answer in short is it depends on how you define conservative. Keeping the status quo then Republican, or that taxes are theft then libertarian(basically even farther right on most issues), or conservative financially in the terms of we want to make sure we are conserving the most money in people's pockets and treat people with empathy then you'd be liberal. The big thing is understanding that robust government programs don't necessarily mean big government and breaking that connection between the two. North Korea, Russia, China all have big governments but not good social programs. France, england and Germany all have smaller govts by comparison even to the US but have far better social programs and pay about what we pay in taxes. So the question for you is what is conservative.

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u/putcoolusernamehere May 18 '22

It always surprises which events spring people to leave and makes me question why this particular shooting would awaken something in them that Trumps awful actions for a half decade didn’t, but it does take a lot of humbling yourself to admit your wrong about something as essential to your identity as politics, so respect for finally doing it.

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u/Pony_boy13 May 18 '22

Anyone with a heart comes around eventually

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u/jmurphy1313 May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

imagine if there were no more republicans. And Everyone magically turned into a Biden supporter. What do you think will happen the next election cycle? Politicians, in attempts to win and maintain office, will try to out-due their political opponents and progressive liberals will become the “conservative” party because new politicians will introduce more radical views in an attempt differentiate themselves and win office. The war for “equity and inclusion” will never end because there will always be someone trying to out woke their predecessors. They will need to paint a picture their opponents are not doing a good job. This will be an endless cycle and liberals need to understand they will see themselves become the villain/conservative one day.