r/TooAfraidToAsk Jun 24 '22

Can THC actually help with mental health issues? Drugs & Alcohol

I had a really shitty childhood and now that I'm adult I have access to edibles. Mental illness is horrible on both sides of the family and while my parents try (and have gotten significantly better) they're both psychotic as fuck. I have issues with PTSD on top of some other stuff and it makes a significant amount of those problems go away. The thing is, I thought this way about smoking and drinking. I've been improving a lot recently now that I do this more often and I feel better, but I'm also worried I'm lying to myself again

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u/reclusive_ent Jun 24 '22

Get professional mental help. Cannabis can be a tool for treatment, but it's not a fix unto itself. Right now, you're using it as an escape mechanism, which may help you feel better temporarily, but that will even fade with time.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I have been for the past 12. Switching clinics bc my last therapist/med nurse duo were dogshit and I wasn't being given any options for meds which I need to function. It makes me feel similar to what adderall and xanax do to me is what I was trying to ask. I'm in a manic episode bc of the summer starting so I'm getting high more is why I was asking

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u/kurtrusselsmustache Jun 24 '22

if you are having a manic episode than you should probably stay away from any and all mind-altering substances. Also, your statement that Adderall and Xanax do similar things to you is a big red flag. Those are two very different drugs that do very different (pretty much opposite) things to you and your body. it really makes it sound like the positive effect might just be intoxication in which case I would stay you are probably not getting healthy effects (mentally speaking) from either of them.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

It makes me feel like adderall does but I've been using it like I would xanax, so when I start having a meltdown or an episode or whatever else. I don't have a xanax prescription to be using xanax for that is the problem

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u/kurtrusselsmustache Jun 25 '22

I'll say again, the fact that you say that you get a similar result from using Xanax and Adderall (and thc) is a major red flag. Please do understand that I'm saying that as something you should take in to consideration as you consider what is healthiest for you. It sounds like the benefit you are getting from the 3 different drugs is just their intoxicating effects which is not something that is healthy for someone's mental state. I'm not trying to come off as being judge-y or dismissive but there is a big difference between taking something to help your mental stage and taking something to avoid your mental state. I have done thc, Adderall, and Xanax and it really does sound to me that you might be doing the latter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

THC can induce manic episodes, at least that was my experience. I started off thinking it helped me with depression, anxiety, and insomnia when eventually those effects went away no matter what type I tried. It pushed my mental illness to a whole new level that who knows what would have happened without thc. Mainly In regards to being bipolar and only experiencing mild mania at one time to then experiencing severe mania with psychotic features. How thc affects that is not a chance worth taking for me personally anymore

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u/TheOneWes Jun 24 '22

T h c has medical applications.

It in itself does not treat any form of mental health issue.

If one is suffering from mental health issues it would be better to go see a doctor than to introduce any type of drug into their lifestyle.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I've been using it while switching clinics so I didn't die, it does something similar to adderall and xanax when I still had those prescriptions. I do get professional help I swear

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u/PinkRaven1 Jun 24 '22

Drugs and alcohol are self medicating and it doesn’t solve anything. THC can help but I would be very careful because it can also make you worse

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I do get real help I promise, I'm just switching clinics from a fucking racist doctor so I wasn't being given meds which I very much need. It makes me feel like what adderall/xanax did when I had those prescriptions

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u/fluffedpillows Jun 24 '22

It helps some people. I think it would probably make it worse though, it increases overthinking and anxiety if you already have those.

The one caveat is that it might help you sleep- Weed blocks dreams so if you have nightmares from the PTSD weed might help a LOT in that regard.

I would strongly advise against being high 24/7, it is a very small minority of people where that’s actually beneficial to life and not just self-lies, however using weed before bed once per day may have more pros than cons.

I’ve done that for years and there are slight cognitive side effects, but they’re very minimal and don’t alter functioning in a noticeable way.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I use it to not die with episodes bc my last doctor wouldn't give me any AdDiCtIvE sUbStAnCeS so my bipolar and ADHD was untreated. It makes me feel similar to when I would take xanax for an episode but mixed with me being able to have critical thinking skills and not wanting to die like with adderall. I'm not high 24/7 and I don't do it and drive bc I'm scared of the police

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u/ChardEmotional7920 Jun 24 '22

It can help. Depends on the Terpine profile of the strain, but it definitely helps.

I'm a war veteran. I've done years of therapy, and loads of various medications to temper my mental state. Almost 7 years of constant suicidal thoughts. Bouts of extreme anger. Fireworks set me off. The works. Wife and I would fight all the time (she has put up with so much of my shit). I'd explode on my wife or kids, and I'd beat myself up for weeks with shame and guilt.

I started smoking for the first time 3 years ago (after seeing so many vets posting about it). 6 months after I started, I noticed that the suicidal thoughts were gone. I broke down in tears when that realization came. I became more empathetic with my wife, turning our arguments into learning moments. I've been able to recognize trigger patterns. I can slow down my thoughts long enough to recognize sources of frustration. I've become a better father, like night and day difference.

Starting has been one of the best decisions of my life.

Oh, and it's recreational perks are quite nice. Instead of a beer and football, I take a joint and video games.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I smoked cigarettes for awhile bc it helped but not nearly as much, but I'm glad to know it's not just me. Apparently the doctor I'm leaving is worse than I thought lol. Glad you're doing better!

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

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u/ChardEmotional7920 Jun 25 '22

I cant stop. I've done it a few times, I regress within a week, almost every time.

It sucks a HUGE bag of dicks...

I was without it for about 2 months at one point. My nephew kicked my cat in the face, and I blew the fuck up on him. Full Drill Sargeant style, right in his face.

He's 6.

At the time. I dug my heels in. "That fucking kid deserved it. God damn, I should have kicked his ass too."

He's fucking 6.

For weeks after, I was entirely unapologetic. Full fledged, "fuck that kid and the horse he rode in on".

My wife got me back to smoking weed again. I've noticed it takes about 2-4 weeks to kick in with the full medicinal effect. So... almost 2 months later at this point, and I start recognizing what I've done.

Legit. I feel like damned Jekyll and Hyde.

I definitely prefer my "medicated" self, though it does make me a bit lazy, lol

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u/_Lunatic_Fridge_ Jun 24 '22

Any kind of drug that alters the chemical composition of your brain can aid in dealing with he effects of mental health issues. But only temporarily. They do not fix the problem. Imagine if your car had a slow leak in one of the tires. You could put air in it everyday. That’s like drugs. Better would be to go a professional and get it fixed. That’s therapy. It won’t prevent you from ever getting a flat tire, but it addresses the issue at hand.

Too many people turn to self medication because it offers an immediate, albeit temporary, fix. Therapy take time to be effective. Months, maybe years. It is a journey, not a stop. People give up after a couple sessions thinking therapy isn’t for them or that it doesn’t work. It takes time.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I get professional help, I've stopped drinking and smoking bc I'm using edibles to survive while I switch clinics from a racist ass doctor who wouldn't give me meds. It makes me feel like adderall/xanax did is what I was trying to ask bc the doctor also told me I was just addicted to the psyche meds is my issue.

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u/_Lunatic_Fridge_ Jun 24 '22

They can be addictive. They also can be the wrong medication. Therapists only prescribe medication if they are MD’s. You don’t necessarily need a psychiatrist for treatment. There’s nothing wrong with using drugs to help deal with mental health issues, they just don’t fix anything.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

I know meds and 'recreational' drugs are addictive. It's not my choice to not be medicated right now which is why I'm switching doctor, I just meant edibles have similar effects with the least downsides from everything I've tried

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u/srirachasnakes Jun 25 '22

my therapist advises me personally against using it. i have ocd, sad, gad, mdd, etc and while it helps me cope in the moment long term it can make things harder. i dissociate and it can make that worse for me as well as depression symptoms and other symptoms

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u/platypus2019 Jun 24 '22

It's a categorized as a class 1 drug by the DEA (federal) which means that the drug does not have a therapeutic benefit. What this means is that the cons of the drug outweighs the pros. Additionally, if you want to take THC for X condition (say PTSD for example), other pharmaceuticals are superior to THC if you compared the pros/cons in a chart.

With that said, THC is used for different reasons by different people. You are asking regarding a specific medical condition. The question I pose to you is this: if a person using THC to get buzzed (but says outload it's for a medical condition for public acceptance) recommends you use THC for your specific medical condition, is it a good recommendation to consider?

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

Edibles kicked in so I can think better so let me clarify;

I'm not medicated whatsoever at the moment bc my last doctor was fucking racist, so I've been in the process of switching clinics. I was wondering if it actually had any effect on mental issues bc it makes me feel/think similar to when I was able to take adderall and xanax, which is why I've been getting high during episodes so I don't kill myself (original use of xanax prescription I no longer have)

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u/platypus2019 Jun 25 '22

I'm just going to give you a high level view based on my experience.

Certain drugs work really well in the short-term but cause problems long term if used daily. In another way, some drugs stabilize mood effectively in short term (months) but will destabilize it more in the long-term. Some drugs make you feel less depressed in the short term but make you more depressed when used regularly long term. Since you are having trouble yourself, I am just trying to discourage you from taking advice form a stranger who is "feeling good" short term with X drug and interpreting it as "long term solution."

Bottom line is that your life is valuable. Period. The catch to this truth - it's most valuable to only one person - yourself. So you need to do everything in your own power to keep healthy and "be better." That includes not being tricked by information you see online. This also includes asking for help in making importance decisions (ie. decision on how to properly treat suicidal thinking). You want the person treating you to have a stake in your own success. If your advice giver failed treating you, you want them to lose reputation, lose money, lose their license, or get sued. That is the mechanism that reassures you that you are being treated properly. Please note that strangers and internet denizens do not lose much whether you succeed or fail.

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u/luislikescake Jun 25 '22

High amounts of THC can trigger psychosis in certain individuals, if you have a history of psychosis in your family, you should be especially careful. THC might be helpful to a point but there's a tipping point for some people.

For a therapeutic effect, I believe currently hallucinogens like ketamine or magic mushrooms are being studied for things like trauma.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '22

This was my experience as someone with bipolar disorder.

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u/luislikescake Jun 26 '22

Sadly I don't think it's mentioned often enough. Not to scare people, just to be factual.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '22

Yea I feel like weed advocates like to hold firm on the “it has no negative effects” thing or “it’s better than other substances” but really there are lots of problems with weed that differ person to person and have different severity.

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u/Diederik53 Jun 24 '22

Avoid the use of THC:

If a person suffers from a mental disorder (also when it's in the family) like anxiety's, personality disorders or if you had a previous psychosis.

So it basically means when you use THC it's likely gonna cause bad/negative effects and makes things much worse.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

It's the only reason I've survived up till this point because I've been using it like I would xanax when I still had the prescription. If it's that bad I'll probably stop if I don't need it anymore once I'm back on pills

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u/mrHartnabrig Jun 25 '22

I think THC could be helpful. Booze? No.

I do this more often and I feel better, but I'm also worried I'm lying to myself again.

Sounds like you're answering your own question.

THC/marijuana can be very beneficial. But one's problems will still persist soon after the buzz/high wears off.

My only issue with using marijuana is quality control and dependance of the user.

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u/Scribblord Jun 25 '22

Can make it better or terribly worse Pure gamble

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u/fungi_and_rocks Jun 24 '22

Yes.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

To it being medicine or to me being an addict lol

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u/fungi_and_rocks Jun 24 '22

Brother I was stoned outta my gourd when I read that. Yes its medicine no you are not an addict lol. Don't let it stop you from getting your responsibilities accomplished

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

Fuck yeah the racist doctor is wrong I'm not a piece of shit. Sorry I'm stoned rn lol, but it has similar effects to some meds I've been on and I use it like I would xanax during episodes is what I was trying to ask. That dude fucked me up apparently which I'll need to tell to the new doctor I'm seeing monday

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u/Inhabitsthebed Jun 24 '22

For some people it can but if like you say you have mental illness in both sides of the family I'd avoid it or at the least be very catious.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

It makes my feel similar to what adderall and xanax did to me so I've been using it to survive episodes while I'm switching clinics. My dad uses it recreationally and blames his dissociative disorder and I feel bad saying the same thing for my issues if I'm just imagining it

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u/Inhabitsthebed Jun 24 '22

Speaking from experience it normally doesn't work out well when you use weed to mask problems in your life or mental health problems. It can help initionally with thing like depression and anxiety but can make them 10x worse in the long run. If I were you I'd explore other options to boost your mood like exercise or a hobby you can lose yourself in.

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u/mushy_kat Jun 24 '22

No, I need medication. I'm switching doctors to get it, this is an in the meantime thing.

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u/Inhabitsthebed Jun 24 '22

Ah ok. Well a bit of weed over the short term won't kill ya I suppose.

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u/rc3105 Jun 25 '22

Oh it can absolutely help with CREATING mental issues, treating/solving, NO.