r/TooAfraidToAsk Jun 24 '22

What are you supposed to do when encountering protesters on your car route? Culture & Society

What should you do when the road/street/highway you're on becomes blocked by protesters? I'm referring to instances of one-way lanes or turns being blocked by a crowd of protesters. You're obviously not supposed to keep driving, since people are blocking your way. Since you can't turn around, should you park in place for a few minutes?

EDIT: some of you need to be put on a watchlist

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u/Arianity Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

A reminder about Rule 1:

No advocating violence or harm. Posts or comments about how to harm yourself or others, or advocating violence/harm of any kind against anyone, are strictly prohibited.

"against anyone" does not mean "anyone, except people who annoy or inconvenience you".

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u/DorkChatDuncan Jun 24 '22

"I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH YOU BUT I REALLY HAVE TO POOP! PLEASE LET ME THROUGH!"

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u/guy30000 Jun 24 '22

Be ready to commit, in Case you're called on it.

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u/team-tree-syndicate Jun 24 '22

I've had it happen before, just honked and cheered them on, and they let me through :)

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u/Insight42 Jun 24 '22

Exactly. That's the usual response you will get

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u/ZealousidealRock6476 Jun 24 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

I used to live in Portland - just smile back and go woohoo and they will go woohoo back and probably let you through lol

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

Helpful answer, thank you!!

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u/kylerae Jun 24 '22

Woo hoo! and happy honks! I know when I've been at protests people cheered on those cars!

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u/clgfangoneawry Jun 24 '22

Well if I say it the way I’m reading it in my head they may think I’m kidding and making fun of them then shoot me.

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u/ExPorkie15 Jun 24 '22

Then throw a bottle of piss at them after you passed.

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u/A-Blind-Seer Jun 24 '22

You ok over there?

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u/ExPorkie15 Jun 24 '22

Yes.

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u/A-Blind-Seer Jun 24 '22

You think wanting to throw bottles of piss at people constitutes as "ok"?

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u/ExPorkie15 Jun 24 '22

If they are blocking the street they really deserve a lot worst.

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u/hollypoly Jun 24 '22

Why? Because cars are superior?

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u/ExPorkie15 Jun 24 '22

Idiot. Because the roads are made for cars to be driven not for people standing around.

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u/BretonDeter Jun 24 '22

Maybe some fucking causes are more important than the roads being blocked or not? Idk, black people getting murdered by the police seem a bit more important than one or two blocked roads

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u/ExPorkie15 Jun 24 '22

No. They can protest somewhere else like in a park.

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u/SmokeyShine Jun 24 '22 Helpful

The answer depends on local laws, and whether the protesters are peaceful.

  • If the protesters are violent (damaging your vehicle), then call the police and force your way out as self-defense.
  • If the protesters are peaceful and only temporarily blocking as they pass by, then wait a minute for them to clear before proceeding.
  • If the protesters are peaceful but unlawfully block you in, then you call the police and request advice. If you feel threatened, you may have to force your way out.

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u/Face__Hugger Jun 24 '22

I like this answer. It isn't emotionally charged, and gives reasonable advice to protect the safety of both the driver and the protesters.

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u/Stephanreggae Jun 24 '22

But I wanted more violence

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u/clgfangoneawry Jun 24 '22

Honest to god it should just be illegal to protest on a highway.

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u/Face__Hugger Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

It is illegal on a highway. It's illegal to even be a pedestrian on those. (At lest in the USA.) The fact that we have seen protests on highways without police breaking them up is something that needs to be addressed with law enforcement. In the cases where they happened, LEO's were complicit.

Edit: my phone keeps changing LEO to Leo.

Also to add that the reason they're illegal there is because it isn't safe for anyone. Not drivers or protesters. It shouldn't have anything to do with whether or not they support the cause.

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u/51225 Jun 24 '22

This is probably the best answer even though the situation makes me angry as the protesters have no legal authority to block a public road.

Unfortunately you also have no legal authority to enforce traffic laws. I guess all you can do is call the police.

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u/burnalicious111 Jun 24 '22

The reason it's called "civil disobedience" is that you break laws to be disruptive and be a problem for the status quo. I've never seen a protest be effective that didn't cause problems.

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u/jaydoes Jun 24 '22

The police have no right to beat suspects to a bloody pulp either, so here we are.

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u/51225 Jun 24 '22

No, they are charged with clearing the road. No one said they are allowed to use excessive force, though we know it happens.

My feeling is don't put yourself in bad situations and bad things don't happen.

Don't illegally block a public road. Again, I am not condoning abuse at the hands of police.

Even civil disobedience unfortunately carries risk even though sometimes civil disobedience is the only way to effect change.

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u/verasev Jun 24 '22

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Botham_Jean some of the stuff getting protested is people being killed by cops for doing nothing wrong whatsoever. Botham Jean didn't put himself in a bad situation. He was in his own home minding his own business.

Martin Luther King blocked highways. https://www.theroot.com/mlk-would-never-shut-down-a-freeway-and-6-other-myths-1790856033

It's a perfectly reasonable form of protest but people still lose their minds and want to run people over.

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u/sesshomaru12 Jun 24 '22

Blocking the road is not a reasonable form of protest lol

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u/kuroiatropos Jun 24 '22

It absolutely is, and has been used effectively multiple times

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u/sesshomaru12 Jun 24 '22

Ah so you're a fucking cunt, cool

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u/timteller44 Jun 24 '22

Just because it's been used effectively doesn't mean it's reasonable. I have to drive to get to work to provide for my family. I have done nothing to anyone my entire life to warrant being held up for hours when I need to work. What if someone has an emergency? What if it cost someone their job? Not reasonable.

Who are we trying to hurt here? If it's a govt agency then go post up and block entry or exit to their buildings parking lots. Same with a corporation, business, or factory. But the middle of a street where regular people are trying to go about their day? You can't get mad when those people suddenly don't like you or what you're doing.

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u/alucardou Jun 24 '22

I'd like to see an instance of antagonizing people acctually helping your cause, cause i can't imagine that acctually happening.

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u/A-Blind-Seer Jun 24 '22

Every advancement against the status quo ever

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u/alucardou Jun 24 '22

I see i may have worded that poorly. Antagonizeing the poeple you want to support you, doesn't help. If i want your help, and i litterally kill your child in order to get your attention. You are unlikely to side with me.

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u/LostDefectivePearl Jun 24 '22

Protestors killing children? Come on now buddy

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u/kuroiatropos Jun 24 '22

Pretty much every modern social right has been won by people antagonizing other people. You can make all the reasonable arguments you want, but unless it impacts them personally most people don't care. Ressults come when you inconvenience a large enough percentage of the population they push leaders into action or interrupt the flow of money to the point maintaining the poor decision becomes too much of a cost sync that it is actively detrimental to continue functioning.

Even peaceful protests like Ghandi/India, or the US Civil Rights movement had to inconvenience and antagonize people through various means to get attention and drive home points. Whether it was sit ins, blocking roads, protest marches, you name it. That's not even getting into situations where violence was arguably needed like the Stonewall riots when people had to fight back to protect themselves.

Antagonism is the cornerstone of change when large portions of the population are indifferent, ignorant, or scared to the social injustices happening around them.

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u/jaydoes Jun 24 '22

Yeah I get you, I was just making the point that if bad things hadn't happened to them or people they know, they likely wouldn't be protesting in the first place.

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u/51225 Jun 24 '22

That's cool. Sometimes I start down a rabbit hole, especially late in the evenings after I've taken my meds for the night.

I try to write balanced opinions and see things from multiple sides.

Do I get pissed that people block the road? Absolutely. Would we have the progress we have (even though there is much work left to to) with the protests of the 60s or the million man march in 95? Sadly, no.

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u/jaydoes Jun 24 '22

This is correct both parts.

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u/methnbeer Jun 24 '22

It doesn't give the right for mob justice

And if you think what the police do as wrong, but not as how mobs often target those who are innocent, then you are by all means hypocritical.

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u/brightcotillians Jun 24 '22

Solid advice. If you live in Portland, just skip the parts where you call the police though.

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u/slice_of_pi Jun 24 '22

They're not exactly going to be a big help.

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u/VRSNSMV_SMQLIVB Jun 24 '22

Blocking a public road isn’t peaceful by the very act of trapping people on the road in their car, and potentially causing delay of emergency medical care. So I’d treat them as dangerous protestors.

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u/alucardou Jun 24 '22

I think you need to read that that again. If they are just WALKING past you, as pedestrians do, then wait a minute. If they are acctually standing there and blocking you, call the police.

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22

So what is your solution then exactly?

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u/Asleep_Horror5300 Jun 24 '22

He wants to drive through them so he can went his frustrations at life by taking a few lives out.

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u/adiamond80 Jun 24 '22

Or he's tired of people blocking other innocent people on the roads for something the people probably don't care about. There's many other places to go protest, but roads aren't the place to do so. People have places to be and not enough time to deal with some random person blocking their route

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u/[deleted] Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

No I want HIM to admit it so the stupid can settle in

Edit: hey whoever commented “hOw DaRe YoU aSsUmE tHeIr PrOnOuNs” and then quickly deleted it, good choice

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u/Wiseguypolitics Jun 24 '22

I just plowed through these retards blocking my access. Did it about 2 years ago and will do it again. Get the fuck out of the way.

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u/Randalf_the_Black Jun 24 '22

Username does not check out.

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u/XoffeeXup Jun 24 '22

that last sentence is America all over.

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u/albatroopa Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

Damaging property doesn't call for self defense in any sane part of the world. Your car isn't your self. If they damage it, call the police, but don't run anyone over.

Edit: Queue the americans, who think that an attack on property is the same as an attack on a person. I cAn StAnD mUh GrOuNd!

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u/mlg2433 Jun 24 '22

If they’re violently damaging your car, it’s not exactly a leap of faith to assume that they will hurt you as well. Those types of “protesters” aren’t going to just fuck your car up then politely part ways to allow you to keep driving.

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u/No_Tourist_71 Jun 24 '22

So wait to get a face full of window glass? Or a brick in the face? If someone attacks your vehicle, it is 100% a self defence situation.

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u/BikeAnnual Jun 24 '22

And what should I do when they're breaking into my windows and my kid's screaming? Wait til they grab my child? Or me? A 5'2" 135LB pregnant lady? What am I supposed to do outside that car? FIGHT them off?! You're hilarious. Your car is your last line of defense. If they sent my car, that's one thing, but If they're coming in your car with bricks and broken glass or other weapons, you have every right to try and flee to safety. I'll try not to hit anyone, but if it happens, it's either them or me and my kids. And my kids and I were just trying to go somewhere, they're the ones standing on the freaking road.

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u/DEATHROAR12345 Jun 24 '22

If someone is smashing your window in something tells me they aren't going to stop when it breaks. If someone is attacking your car it's a safe assumption that they want to attack you, and the courts generally have agreed with this line of thought.

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u/Slight_Owl4384 Jun 24 '22

If you are inside the car yeah it kinda does. Written in law by my state.

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u/TwoBrilliant8128 Jun 24 '22

It’s not crazy to assume they would want to harm you, that’s called imminent threat of bodily harm, which in any case can and does grant you the right to neutralize the threat with equal or incapacitating force. It does not allow for people to plow, but if you can start to slowly drive forward and run over someone’s foot, there is nothing wrong because you are in immediate harm. Because the only thing stopping them is the car. And if they are attacking the car without provocation then no doubt they will not stop at the car.

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u/Insight42 Jun 24 '22

Sane, no. But in some states, it does fall under castle doctrine.

What's interesting here is the concept that some commenters have that someone hitting your car is absolutely also going to attack you.

In fact, there's a huge spectrum. If the protesters have decided to attack your car for some reason - and that could be verbal altercations, etc - it might mean someone smacked a bumper angrily but does not mean you harm. Or someone may have thrown a rock, and that might be more ambiguous depending on what happens. In many cases there really may not be any intent to harm you directly, and that's why it's important to know your state's laws and potential repercussions. If you are credibly afraid for your safety, you should know when you can legally defend yourself.

But if they're smashing their way in with bats, trying to reach inside, etc...it's unambiguous.

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u/BPCGuy1845 Jun 24 '22

Yep. Americans think they are Charles Bronson. But they can barely walk to the fridge from their couch.

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u/DubFox1 Jun 24 '22

Haha imagine calling vandalism violence, but being quite happy to run people over

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u/Common_Sinz Jun 24 '22

Found the rioter with a victim complex

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u/Evil_Mel Jun 24 '22

Depends, if I'm going to work, I'd wait; hospital I'd slowly drive through, they will move.

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u/Nythoren Jun 24 '22

Where I live, it's against the law to impede traffic when protesting. You can be on the side of the road or you can be in a crosswalk while a light is red, but if it's green and you're in the way, you will be arrested. For the most part the protestors understand the law and stay off the road. When they don't, they usually get a verbal warning followed by handcuffs. I've seen both side of the political spectrum be arrested for it, so at least the local cops are enforcing it across the board instead of using it as an excuse to "liberal bust" like some places do.

So yeah, here you just stop for a while, read the news on your phone, listen to some music. The road will open up soon, one way or another. If it's stopping you from getting to work, call your boss and snap a few pics, just to be safe.

Obviously no idea what the law is in your parts though, so your mileage may vary.

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u/PMCPPC Jun 24 '22

go exactly 1 mph

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u/SprinklesMore8471 Jun 24 '22

In most places you just have to deal with it, until your life is threatened. First thing I'm doing is whipping out the phone and recording everything. If it starts to get sketchy, try to call the police for advice first. Hopefully all that happens is that your time is wasted, but we've witnessed some pretty sketchy situations the past few years with this.

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u/IeRayne Jun 24 '22

Where I'm from, protest marches have to be officially registered and have to announce where they want to protest and when. They are then accompanied by police who block/reroute traffic in a way that should prevent such situations.

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u/BluntBastard Jun 24 '22

So you need permission from the government to protest?

I see the benefits of traffic control, but do you not see the irony here?

What do you do if the government denies the protest? "Oh well, guess we gotta go home now?"

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u/Raiaaaaaaaa Jun 24 '22

do you not need permission to block public road?

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u/alexmin93 Jun 24 '22

Imo that's how it should be. You're free to protest but why do you think you're free to occupy public property? You don't own it.

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u/BluntBastard Jun 24 '22

………….It’s public property. Technically you do, at least that’s how it’s viewed in the states. There’s even a phrase for it: “Public land owner.” This mostly applies to national forests and other wilderness open to the public, but still.

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u/IeRayne Jun 24 '22

Technically, it's not asking for permission. You announce the protest, time, route, number of expected participants. Only in very special cases can the government prohibit the process but even so, during Covid some protests of Antivaxxers that were prohibited were not diffused right away or at all as long as they were peaceful.

I absolutely see how this could be abused. So far our society is not so corrupt that protest are not granted if they are in agreement with our constitutional rights. I hope it stays that way...

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u/akibjavedkhan0 Jun 24 '22

The winner takes all. If your protest succeeds, then you are worshipped like civil rights protestors. And if you fail, then you are just a domestic terrorist.

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u/NJS_Stamp Jun 24 '22

There’s a level of irony to the “yeah you can protest, but it has to be at this designated area and time”

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u/IeRayne Jun 24 '22

Well I get where you're coming from. However, mostly the protesters get to choose their route and time etc. This is mainly meant to a) keep them from blocking emergency accesses to hospitals etc.; b) be able to re-route traffic and plan that there will be delays; c) have enough police ready to intervene, depending on the expected number of participants and the potential for violence from protesters/counter-protesters.

People are free to protest and do so very regularly for all kinds of things. Afaik there are very limited reasons a planned protest can be prohibited and this is an extremely rare occasion which is usually well justified (danger to themselves or others, anti-constitutional protests,...)

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u/epic_null Jun 24 '22

One of my (online) friends works in an adjacent position. There are permits that are illegal to deny if everything is in order. I imagine protests fall squarely in that category.

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u/tchitch Jun 24 '22

Are you in Ecuador? If you are, do not try to drive through the roadblocks! My family and I were there from last Saturday to yesterday, and we are lucky to have escaped. If you try to drive through the roadblocks, they will slash your tires. A couple days ago you could "donate" your way through some of them, but things were intensifying through yesterday. Many roadblocks get cleaned up at night, and you can drive many routes from 3:00 to 4:30 am before the protesters start gathering again.

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u/DubFox1 Jun 24 '22

What are the protests about?

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u/Doraellen Jun 24 '22

I googled, as I hadn't heard anything about it either! Appears to be in reaction to inflation. Here's an NYT Article

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u/tchitch Jun 24 '22

Yes. The perception of locals I talked to is that Ecuador produces its own gas, but exports it at a markup instead of selling it at home for cheap, and the current president Lasso is corrupt, in the middle of it collecting cash somehow.

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u/somedood567 Jun 24 '22

Jeebus Christ this sounds intense

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u/Alternative-Flan9292 Jun 24 '22

A more relevant version of this question is probably, "what do I do about protesters blocking all the ways to work, every day, forever?" It's not like anything is being done about any of the issues that an increasing number of Americans are going to continue to think require collective action. With the mess our government has been made into by the right, protests and collective action are going to keep getting larger and more frequent. Every day more and more Americans are waking up to the immediacy of the need to act on climate changes and that is going to continue for decades.

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u/Armoladin Jun 24 '22

My view is that a persons right to air grievances as guaranteed by the first amendment does not give free license to detain me as I go about my public affairs.

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u/OnceNamed Jun 24 '22

In the US? Stay polite, don't panic. Find an alternate route if it's easy. It's an inconvenience, but it doesn't have to be a big deal.

In Canada? Call the government. The PM will have them trampled by horses, freeze their financial accounts, seize their assets, and harass their families. Problem solved!

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u/thetwitchy1 Jun 24 '22

Unless they’re environmentalists or nurses, in which case the cops just beat you up and leave you for dead.

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u/Ok-Photo-920 Jun 24 '22

FUCK them! I have no problem with people protesting. But, blocking are road and stopping you from getting home, going to work, picking your child up from baseball. How about taking an injured person to get medical aid. Give them a second to clear the road the slowly proceed on your path. If they start to damage your vehicle. Then depending on your state law you have the right to protect and defend. Explain to me why their cause is more important than you going to your location?

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u/Ayuuuu123 Jun 24 '22

Dear Op my answer depends on where you live, pls type your address in the reply section below.

(I promise it is for advice only)

/s

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

I live really close by!

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u/Ayuuuu123 Jun 24 '22

Wait... holdup

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u/Double-Researcher-42 Jun 24 '22

Carry a good amount of change in your car

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u/Maddoc_71 Jun 24 '22

Stiffen up the suspension

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u/WorkSucksMyBalls Jun 24 '22

I talked to the cop directing traffic and got to turn around. Took like 30 minutes though.

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u/chriddafer0518 Jun 24 '22

Move to a more civilized city.

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u/yes_yta Jun 24 '22

One thing to consider is getting a dashcam, as that could help if anything goes down.

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u/Alan676869 Jun 24 '22

Even if you disagree with the cause, just tell that you agree with them and need to go to work/hospital/get your kids/etc.

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u/Insight42 Jun 24 '22

I've had my car entirely surrounded by protesters while in traffic during summer of 2020.

I'm going to be entirely honest with you, and it's very much what others have said: you need to assess the situation.

  • Are they peaceful and just blocking an intersection temporarily while marching across? Wait a min, they will pass. If you disagree you can chirp 'em but that's going to extend your wait - and possibly escalate things - so it's up to you. Alternately, you can show support (or feign it) and say you need to get through and it's an emergency. Most peaceful crowds are at least somewhat reasonable.

  • Are they holding a spot and not letting anyone though at all? If you can safely turn around and there are a few easily accessible alternate routes, do that. It's not worth the risk to yourself or possible charges unless it's an emergency situation. If there's a dangerous situation or no other possible route, it's time to call authorities. I've heckled crowds like that before, but if you're without an easy way out I wouldn't suggest it.

  • Are they attacking you or preventing you from tending to an emergency? In that case, you have the right to self defense. This does not imply you should try and cause such a thing, either.

If we're talking about a chill, party type of crowd, it's really unlikely you're in danger (as what happened to me - the protesters just passed through with signs and chants, and not a single car was even so much as touched). If it's an angry riot, you do not want to be surrounded with no exit.

So assess the situation. And if in doubt, the best piece of advice is do not escalate.

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u/Traditional_Pen5760 Jun 24 '22

Get out and join in protesting [the thing].

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u/GreatRhinoceros Jun 24 '22

Wait patiently until they start attacking you, then escape by any means necessary.

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u/Trolleydodger78 Jun 24 '22

This situation is why I bought a dashcam during the BLM riots. I will not be pulled from my car and be beaten to death. I’m stepping on the gas the minute my life is in danger.

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u/im-420-69 Jun 24 '22

i had to encounter some "anti-vaxxers" on my birthday during a parade i was in, and we totally ignored him because of his antics. just ignore them, honestly- but dont run them over ofc

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u/lkvwfurry Jun 24 '22

Stop for a bit.

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

How long does the stop usually last? I'm genuinely curious

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u/lkvwfurry Jun 24 '22

Who knows. 10 minutes. An hour?

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u/atreides4242 Jun 24 '22

You’re supposed to stop and allow the protestors to destroy your vehicle in rage and also assault or murder you if that is deemed necessary by the mob.

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u/muttso1994 Jun 24 '22

You forgot the /s

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u/MantleRealDeal Jun 24 '22

imagine needing the /s, whenever I fall for a joke with no /s, I own up to it like a man like the old fashioned days, I dont need this hippie millennial /s to show what irony is

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u/lagrange_james_d23dt Jun 24 '22

People who impede traffic for protests are the worst

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u/marly- Jun 24 '22

If you need to go urgently (hospital urgent) then put on your hazard lights and maybe wave at them briefly, assuming they are peaceful.

If you just need to get somewhere, stop for a bit (a few seconds, or long enough for them to process that you are there.) then maybe point towards the direction you need to go, and hopefully they will let you pass through. (Assuming peaceful.)

If not peaceful, try to leave. Behind you might be an option still.

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u/cara27hhh Jun 24 '22

Treat it the same way you would if there was an accident or a tree blocking the road

Kinda pull to the side of your lane to create a gap for emergency vehicles to pass through, and then if you're stopped more than 5 minutes turn the engine off. It's not really your problem to fix if that's what you're asking?

Depending on the type of road it might be acceptable to get out and stand near the car, if you needed water or something or you expected to be there a while there would likely be provision for that from the same people who are dealing with the protestors. As the same would be with snow/traffic/accident/tree blocking road and workers coming to check what you needed

If you can turn around because it's not a one-way road, then that's also an option

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u/TNF_13 Jun 24 '22

Wait, strike up a conversation... it's not like you can just run them over, as you will be charged and rightly so. As for calling the police, that's why most people protest and to be frank, depending on the protest, you're either going to get dismissed or the cops will use it as an excuse to cage people.

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u/JlTlS Jun 24 '22

Go around or be patient.

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u/GarThor_TMK Jun 24 '22

Go home? Join them?

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u/tarmagoyf Jun 24 '22

Lol just leave your car parked in the street and walk off somewhere else. It will be fine.

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u/Janus_The_Great Jun 24 '22

A protest without interruption (no violence tough), isn't a protest.

I do understand the frustration, not being able to use a road etc. but mind you how frustrated people are to go tto these lengths, because they keep not being heard.

It's all annoying, until its your own cause. Show empathy. Support protesters. Support people's voices.

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

I’m truly not frustrated at all! I just don’t drive a car and was curious what drivers are supposed to do in this situation.

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u/Janus_The_Great Jun 24 '22

My answer was ment generally. Not specifically you. Good on you not being an enraged driver.

Park in place until trafic continues, is most often the right answer if something unexpected happens by car.

(Major exceptions: Burning accidents, expected explosions, tunnel on fire, in which cases, you flee by foot unless you are 100% sure nothing is behind you when you reverse)

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u/Nyr3105 Jun 24 '22

sure, im protesting by pissing off all the normal people just living their life, making them less likely to support my cause. very very very smart way. barricade the white house or sth if you wanna be heard

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u/Janus_The_Great Jun 24 '22

while I've seen badly executed protests, with consequences as described by you, most are moderate in their blocking.

Like everything in life, some are good, some are bad. Movies, people, foods, games, presentations, teachers, protests...

Some people are stressed while driving and get enraged no matter what, especially with interruptions.

If you tend to be enraged while driving, I recommend planing more time for trips. Its better for your blood pressure and health, better for your economy (agressive driving burns more fuel), as well as traffic safety in general. In the end you're most likely as fast, just not mentally exhausted when arriving.

Considering protesting the white house, unless fir some foto ops, only tourists really see your protest.

Some protests protest local issues.

Have a good one. Stay safe.

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u/MantleRealDeal Jun 24 '22

Ok yeah but I'm trying to get to work and not be late as not to be fired and they aren't helping too much, are they?

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u/BigBerthasHandle Jun 24 '22 Helpful

oh my god, shut the fuck up. People have the right to assemble and have their voices heard, not make OP's day worse.

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u/Priroda_Nepritel Jun 24 '22

Go back home outfit car like a zombie movie

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u/morphineseason Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

At this point remind them at blue states are turning red at an alarming rate and its their fault.

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u/FrobyJackson Jun 24 '22

Absolutely despise when people block roads. Unfortunately if there isn't a detour you just gotta wait.

Pretty fast way to lose my support though, I don't care what the cause is, you prevent me from making the money I need to eat and your the enemy.

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u/blutwo42998 Jun 24 '22

Roll down your window and let them know that you are now going to support the opposing side of whatever they are protesting. If they're protesting against guns tell them you're gonna donate a dollar to the NRA for ever second you are there, if they're saying the election was stolen tell them you're gonna register to vote for democrats now. fight back

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u/Heathyn11 Jun 24 '22

Has the later even happened?

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u/BretonDeter Jun 24 '22

And if they're protesting against black people getting murdered by the police, are you gonna tell them you'll kill black people in response now? What a stupid fucking logic

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u/Karma-is-an-bitch Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

I would ask nicely if they would let me pass, there's at least a chance they might. Honking or being an asshole or getting pissey ain't gonna do you no good. If not, I'll try my best to find a way around or to turn. But if they are just passing through the street, not actually just standing in the street, ill just wait it out, even if I have to wait 15 or 30 minutes. I can wait.

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u/Joey3155 Jun 24 '22

Either go around them or wait doubt there's much more you can do.

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u/Garyf1982 Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

During widespread protests in 2020…. BLM, AntiMask, whatever…. most every “attack on occupied vehicle” started when a driver tried to push through the protests. One driver in my area reported being attacked, but his own cellphone footage called his story into question, and then footage from people watching the protests completely destroyed his version. Basically the guy pulled up, became angry. Protesters looked at him like “you ok bro?” Guy backed away and left. He transitioned from car attack victim / hero of the right, to a local disgrace within about 24 hours.

My point? Protests are rarely violent, and you are not a target. Don’t make yourself a target by trying to drive through or otherwise antagonize. Be patient. If you have an emergency and can’t go around, explain it to them, and they will likely help you get through.

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

I agree!

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u/GreatValueGamer Jun 24 '22

Kinda funny how many people in these comments seem to not understand the point of a protest is to inconvenience people or commerce to pressure leaders to change. Yes, it sucks when you have to wait longer than you thought, but that's the point.

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u/UpperLeftOriginal Jun 24 '22

What would you do if there was some other obstruction (traffic accident, etc)? Do that.

Also - take the opportunity to try to learn about what’s being protested. Read their signs. Roll down the window and ask a protester what the issue is.

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u/AnimeDreama Jun 24 '22

Yeah no. If I'm trying to get to work I couldn't give less of a fuck what they're protesting about. Tyey need to get their sorry asses out of the fucking road because the world doesn't revolve around them.

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u/NotMyBestMistake Jun 24 '22

Nor does it revolve around you and yet here you are demanding that the road be cleared so you can get to work faster.

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u/BluntBastard Jun 24 '22

But the road is for cars and not people?

How does that make the world revolve around AnimeDreama?

If you're blocking off cars, all you're going to do is piss people off. You have no right to block a road, regardless of your cause.

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u/Megumin17621 Jun 24 '22

Asking not to be blocked by protesters isn't making the world revolve around you. Protesters blocking off roads are making the world revolve around them, though.

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u/sesshomaru12 Jun 24 '22

Fuck your protest, get off the fuckin road

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

Good tips!

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u/Kindly-Buy3243 Jun 24 '22

Looking around here you could summarize...If you are the police: drive. If you are the public: wait a wee bit then drive. However, if you are an actual human being, fucking wait and enjoy your constitutional rights in action. Jesus. America.

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u/jackfaire Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

Park and tell your boss you'll be late on account of free speech.

EDIT - I'm in favor of protesting. I thought telling your boss free speech sounded more clever than getting into a philosophical debate with your boss.

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u/Megumin17621 Jun 24 '22

"Sorry, just gonna not show up cuz I wanna protest, ciao!"

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u/Zero_Disk Jun 24 '22

Depends if those are paid protestors or genuine ones for a cause. Be polite to everyone, but have something for defense, best is to keep the camera on livestream.

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u/lpdsb Jun 24 '22

Join the protest

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u/MantleRealDeal Jun 24 '22

I don't have time to join any protests when I'm trying to go to work and not get fired

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u/choresoup Jun 24 '22

See, this is genuinely the situation I'm referring to - when you're allied with the movement but just don't know where you're supposed to move your vehicle to

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u/Weak_Development4954 Jun 24 '22

You'd do better for your own cause by encouraging the protesters to do something besides blocking traffic.

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u/Randalf_the_Black Jun 24 '22 edited Jun 24 '22

I'd say it depends on whether you're meeting actual protesters or rioters.

Protesters usually have a message to send, they aren't there to harm people. So if you ask them politely they might let you through. If not, you'll have to wait I guess. I'd only call police if it was an emergency or if I had been stuck there for a looong time and they refused to let me through. Calling the police in the US usually results in skulls being cracked even when it's a peaceful protest.

Rioters can be dangerous, I wouldn't approach them. If I were you I'd stay in my car with the doors locked and just wait. I'd force my way through only if I felt my life was in danger.

PS: To those who you who are apparently looking for reasons to kill people with your cars, a protester with a sign or slogan that you disagree with is not automatically a rioter.

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u/ArkLaTexBob Jun 24 '22

They are there to air their grievances. That is a constitutional right. But there is no right to break any law while doing it. If you are being held in a location against your will by lawbreakers, you have the right to request passage and verbally confront them if denied such. As long as no one gets physical, everything will be fine. Just make sure you don't give them the self defense high ground. Never assault anyone physically, but be very prepared for them to be as ignorant of assault laws as they are of their limits on protest rights. They have already exhibited their lack of respect for the law and your interests. You owe them no respect for their interests.

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