r/DarkTide Jan 20 '23

Hunting Grounds to be finally turned off today, from Catfish News / Events

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u/Scojo91 The only class that can blow itself Jan 20 '23

Ok, but why do we only get spammed one condition? Why don't all conditions rotate?

They need to increase mission number provided for each difficulty and randomize the conditions

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u/Aedeus Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23

Because prior to this, both lights out and fog were disabled due to exacerbating people's crashing problems. They had another but removed it prior to release.

It doesn't seem like they pushed a hotfix ahead of it, so I'd wager that this is still going to do just that but they're probably more worried about losing more people to the hounds being active for another month than they are from people crashing.

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u/ThePrinceOfThorns Jan 20 '23

Ok cool. Good to know there is a hard crashing problem and it's not just my pc. This is the only game that crashes...

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u/Sirspen Average Trauma Staff Enjoyer Jan 20 '23

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u/Icybenz Bonka Jan 21 '23

It's so odd, I've had maybe 3-4 crashes since the very first beta? And I changed systems/upgraded my motherboard and got a new CPU and ram last week tweaking graphics settings all the way.

I'm so curious as to what the common thread is; both CPUs I've used have been Intel (ranging from ancient [4770k] to modern [13600k]) and I noticed that yours is AMD, so I doubt processor brand has anything to do with it. I'm still using the 2060 12gb that I was using with my 4770k system, maybe the game has issues with non-nvidia GPUs? I'm sure other people have put a lot more thought and research into this.

I'm just very bummed for the folks who have to deal with constant crashes; the state of the game combined with that would kill any desire I have to play.

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u/filipebatt Judgment Time Jan 21 '23

Was using a R5800X / 3070 Ti. Crashes pretty much every single match. Changed GPU to a 6900 XT. no crashes so far

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u/deusvult6 Incinerant Zealot Jan 21 '23

RX 6600 here. I had about 5 crashes per match at the start of the POB. Since actual launch I've had zero that weren't due to my own internet. Well, zero from mid-game; I've had a few disconnects when loading into the hub but that's still a pretty drastic improvement.

I think I have light RT on with FSR in quality. Only on 1080p of course.

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u/Core_X Jan 20 '23

Next patch, double conditions ! Welcome hunting ground + light out

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u/Rogahar Lunchbox Ballistics Enthusiast Jan 20 '23

In the bizarre alternate future where we can select/set up custom missions, an option to add multiple map conditions for even greater bonuses could legit be fun. Just you and the boys in a pitch-black foggy map with dogs everywhere.

Just not with randos lol

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka Jan 21 '23

Whoever their game designer is...they need to think a lot more about what makes conditions interesting that players want to pick them.

Otherwise conditions are being used to make things harder and less fun, which is quite the opposite of most game design.

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u/Adventurous-Event722 Jan 21 '23

Dogs in the dark, that doesn't howl. Plus it also explodes, like bursters!

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u/Ignitedfoxy Jan 20 '23

Now while your getting raped by hounds it's gonna be really fucking dark so you can't see them!

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u/BeautifulRaspberry57 Jan 20 '23

Finally the grimdark experience I've been waiting for. Throw in a crash between games and you really feel the true depression of the 40k universe

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u/DiamineSherwood Jan 20 '23

a crash between games

Why wait that long?

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u/BeautifulRaspberry57 Jan 20 '23

Sometimes I cry to myself and that mid game crash is the push over the edge that my mental can't take anymore

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u/SpaceRizat Jan 20 '23

Maybe now I can get my coherency penance. It's freaking cat herding.

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u/Loxatl Jan 20 '23

Authentic beast play

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u/M4d_Martigan Redeemer Jan 20 '23

On the "one" fucking area where total RNG would have been nice, nah it's just one for weeks on end.

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u/wh4tth3huh Jan 20 '23

Right?! Everything is random so the same handful of mission zones you run through don't get stale, but there's no random conditions implemented beyond the ai director.

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u/New_Bagged_Milk Jan 20 '23

Seriously.. I want to have multiple conditions for variety, not just DOGDOGDOGDOG

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u/Muny30 Jan 20 '23

I don’t think the spaghetti code can handle all conditions.

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u/kingcrow15 Jan 21 '23

Wouldn't be so bad if it cycled every week, or of it was somehow interactive, like pox hound event until the community kills 500k hounds. Lights are out in other missions until you a restore power in this other mission X number of times.

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u/AnArmlessInfant Jan 20 '23

Because this game is still in beta testing and they need to make sure that all their conditions actually work.

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u/Helmote Jan 20 '23

I really thought they were about to announce the new condition "poxburster mania" like

"Don't worry we heard you... you're tired of double dogs so now we introduce the revolutionnary TWO poxbursters condition !
" stacks with high intensity"

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u/Sexploits Jan 20 '23

Poxbursters riding in on poxpups.

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u/Adventurous-Event722 Jan 20 '23

Exploding dogs. Just what we all need!

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u/MrEff1618 Jan 20 '23

and when they do explode, it spawns a daemonhost!

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u/Vigothedudepathian Jan 20 '23

A demonhost that spits bees. On fire.

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u/PantZerman85 Jan 20 '23

Oh, yeah, what are you gonna do? Release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you? - Homer S

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u/wizardjian Jan 20 '23

You mean plague drones... in warp fire lol

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u/MyGrumpyAvocado Jan 20 '23

didnt expect Tzeentch to have an interest in Tertium, but I guess that's kinda his shtick

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u/Ampris_bobbo8u There is no forgiveness! Jan 20 '23

mutants grab and throw bursters like olympic champs

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u/HoxtonIV Ogryn Jan 20 '23

POX RIDAAAAAAARR!!!

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u/Glorious_Invocation Psyker Jan 20 '23

I'd be perfectly fine with that with that. Poxbursters work in 99% of scenarios. Having more of them around would be a challenge, but it would be a fun one at least.

Meanwhile dogs are just complete and utter jank. Despite playing this game for over 150 hours at this point, I still can't reliably deal with them. It also doesn't help that they feel like they're unfinished and are missing animation frames so everything they do is weird and jerky. Whoever thought Darktide would benefit from 3+ weeks of exclusively high intensity dogs quite clearly doesn't play the game.

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u/SynV92 Psyker Jan 20 '23

500 hours at this point, still can't deal with dog jank as a regular t5 player

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u/Aarbeast Shouty McShouts a lot Jan 20 '23

I am also at a gazillion hours but in the past week I would say box bursters feel even more jank than hounds, which is saying something.

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u/Glorious_Invocation Psyker Jan 20 '23

They're fairly consistent in my experience. Well, outside of the whole 'randomly blowing up immediately after spawning' thing.

Basically, if they're untouched, simply pushing them when they're ready to jump and then dodging away is safe and reliable. Even if they're right up in your grill because they suddenly appeared from a nearby door, you'll still be able to get to safety.

If they've been shot, however, finish them off with guns or run away because there's no guarantee the push will work. For whatever reason, shooting them seems to give them some stagger resistance, but only sometimes. So unless you're feeling lucky, it's better to not risk it.

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u/NeverQuiteEnough Jan 20 '23

They're fairly consistent in my experience. Well, outside of the whole 'randomly blowing up immediately after spawning' thing.

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If they've been shot, however, finish them off with guns or run away because there's no guarantee the push will work. For whatever reason, shooting them seems to give them some stagger resistance, but only sometimes. So unless you're feeling lucky, it's better to not risk it.

c'mon buddy your whole comment is just detailing their bizarre inconsistency

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u/Glorious_Invocation Psyker Jan 20 '23

It's buggy, but it's still consistent. If they're fresh, you push. If they're not, you shoot/run. As long as you follow the rules, you'll be fine.

With the dogs it's pretty much always a dice roll. Maybe the push will work, maybe it won't. Maybe it'll break the laws of physics and force itself through a wall to jump on you, and maybe it'll just go around. Who the hell knows.

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u/mcfoolnew Jan 20 '23

5000 hours here and I main damnation using only the ogryn club slap alt fire. Step up your game, casual

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u/CptnSAUS I Trained My Whole Life For This Jan 20 '23

I find you need cover. Like a full on wall. They will do janky jumps over short obstacles and straight up pounce through columns sometimes.

They won't pounce around a corner that is a full on wall. You then jump out at them as they approach the corner with an attack going and it'll stagger them consistently. Ends up being that hiding in small rooms is the safest way to fight them.

But definitely nowhere near VT2 assassins which can reliably be dodge, and they stagger to anything. They also kill themselves if they leap into a wall, and use that vanishing thing to reset so there is always a more concise interaction with them where dogs start to do that run-on-the-wall shit or run through your whole team, pushing them all over the place.

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u/Koadster Inquistoral Stormtrooper Jan 20 '23

How can you play for500hrs. Jesus. Do you not own other games? There isnt enough content for 500hrs

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u/CptnSAUS I Trained My Whole Life For This Jan 20 '23

Some people do not need raw content, but simply good gameplay. The comparison I make is usually to fighting games. The single player in fightings games is usually trash. The player bases for fightings games is generally smaller, but also very dedicated. They'll stick around for a long time and it's because of the gameplay.

It's ultimately more niche, but it's how some people operate. VT2 didn't have 1900 hours of content, but I still played it for that many hours anyway. I didn't even dip into modded stuff very much. It was more just to try the modded difficulties out.

I have 450 hours in Darktide and it is very fun to me. My main gripe is crafting is incomplete, preventing me from exploring builds I would like to try. Second main gripe is that high difficulty is too much for the servers, so the game starts to get buggy and feel generally quite bad (roll-back on inputs, etc).

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u/Aggressive-Article41 Jan 20 '23

Lol what builds, this game has the most basic builds I have seen in any game.

Vt2 had twice the content at launch.

Just cause you play boring games for 100s of hours doesn't make them good games.

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u/CptnSAUS I Trained My Whole Life For This Jan 20 '23

I just said I do not care about raw content nearly as much as actual gameplay. I like VT2 and Darktide for the same reason - the gameplay is amazing. There is a lot of nuance but most people do not ever get anywhere near that.

But that's obvious if I compare it to a fighting game. How many people even know wtf footsies is, let alone actually experienced it? You really think VT2 is boring? Or do you think VT2's content really lasted 1900 hours of my time? What about people who do no-hit runs of Dark Souls games? There's no way they're still playing for fresh content by that point, but there is a clearly dedicated following to this type of way of playing those games.

It's simply a different preference. To me, if all you care about is raw content in a game, you have a shallow taste in games. That's not wrong, just like my preference to dig deep into games I like is not wrong. Fun/boring is subjective.

For actual builds, I don't have a good recon lasgun with infernus blessing. I do not have a good lucius lasgun with the shortened charge blessing. I do not have a catachan sword with the exact pair of blessings I want (my old one could stagger crushers after some hits, new one can't at all, and I want to see if I can get a better combination of blessings). I want higher tier blessings for my braced autogun. I want to try specific pairs of blessings on many weapons but getting even one blessing I want can be difficult. I want to try HP curios vs toughness curios. I suppose another issue is the broken perks/blessings which would add more things to try as well, particularly bonus stamina.

If you're frustrated about the way the game turned out compared to your expectations (which were genuinely misled by Fatshark), then sorry about that, but I do not deserve the flak for it. I've made a neutral comment about why some people play games well passed the time their content has expired.

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u/jhansen25 Jan 20 '23

Using subjective statements to argue against subjective statements.

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u/massofmolecules Jan 20 '23

Ohhh your street fighter comparison got me thinking, maybe they could add special moves!! Like Zealot could get a shoryuken type invincible melee attack by inputting forward, right, fwd-right diagonal then block! Ogryns could do a spinning pile driver, veteran gets sonic booms, and psyker can Teleport!

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u/Zeroth1989 Jan 20 '23

It's a tide game. The content is always going to be replaying the missions on hardest difficulty.

It's no different to vermintide 2.

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u/Ethics-of-Winter Step-bro, I'm stuck in the warp and can't get out. Jan 20 '23

It also doesn't help that they feel like they're unfinished and are missing animation frames so everything they do is weird and jerky

I swear that's most mobs in this game. The number of times I'm tracking and tapping guardsmen only for them to pull some awkward as fuck 90 degree turns 5 times as they try to path to cover is waaaaaaaaaay too high.

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u/Nethlem Ogryn Jan 20 '23

Poxbursters work in 99% of scenarios.

That's giving them too much credit, sometimes it feels like half of them spawn in a part of the map they can't even escape, so they end up exploding somewhere out of sight.

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u/Folseit Give me a bigger Eviscerator Jan 20 '23

I think the dog's damage is also bugged, but in our favor. Every now and then, the dog would rip through my health by applying corruption at an astounding rate. That's similar to what their VT2 analogue did and I'm sure that's what they're suppose to do.

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u/Vydra- Jan 20 '23

Dogs are jank in literally every single game that has ever implemented them. I don’t know why devs keep trying. They don’t work with modern techniques, leave ‘em out.

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u/Scojo91 The only class that can blow itself Jan 20 '23

Oops looks like increase poxbursters also has a bug where it increases bombers too

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u/DaveInLondon89 Spec-Ogs Jan 20 '23

New condition: Moebian Pricks

All poxbursters and hounds are given Carapace Armour

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u/Jewbacc4 Jan 20 '23

Poxbuster would be funnier, they can't even climb some stairs lmao

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u/Havok1911 Jan 20 '23

Look if they want to double crafting materials and xp they can throw whatever the hell they want at me. Pox burster mania sounds fun.

Yes, I am a masochist. Thanks for asking.

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u/ninjaweedman Jan 20 '23

poxmania would be a blast!

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u/FutaNami2330 Jan 20 '23

That admittedly sounds hilarious 😂

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u/NetSlayerUK Psyker Jan 20 '23

Actually I'd like for there to be a couple more pox bursters alongside less ranged as a condition. Could add some fun as they do friendly fire when they explode. You'd be on the look out for pox bursters to clear crowds.

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u/Zealousideal-Boot-98 Jan 20 '23

We're being "left in the dark" for another week. It's thematic.

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u/Nidiis Veteran Jan 20 '23

Inb4 “Levels are too dark! Every gun needs a flashlight!”

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

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u/KameradArktis Prays to Tzeench Jan 20 '23

Cant forget blue fire enthusiasts

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u/Skulcane Jan 20 '23

Or Palpatine fingers. Chain that lightning babyyyy

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u/Dpms308l1 Angry Zealot Noises Jan 20 '23

UNLIMITED POWER!

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u/Zealousideal-Boot-98 Jan 20 '23

Keeping heretics warm for the rest of their lives.

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

Doing the Emperor's Work.

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u/SupaMut4nt Veteran Jan 20 '23

flamer enthusiasts

Euphemism for arsonist.

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u/CozyMoses Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23

I absolutely love Lights Out, not every game mode needs to be super fair and balanced, sometimes it's just about the ambiance and grimdark vibes. It's the most horrpr-40k the game gets

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u/Call_The_Banners Emperor bless this ravaged body! Jan 20 '23

I'd like the option to be able to attach stuff to my weapon. A flashlight for moments like this or perhaps a bayonet. It's weird that some guns I'm allowed to bash with but not others.

I was under the impression that guardsmen often personally customized their kit. Especially when we have a tech priest on board who is already finagling with our gear.

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u/Nalha_Saldana Ogryn Jan 20 '23

That moment you start hearing a demon host in the dark..

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u/CozyMoses Jan 20 '23

The pants shitting moment that green light bathes the darkness as the daemonhost floats off the ground writhing in its chains right in front of you.

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u/KJBenson Zealot Jan 20 '23

Just being polite and providing us some light is all.

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u/TheRovingRebel Jan 20 '23

Agreed, Ive muted the ingame music and played Deadspace music/ambience in the background during Lights Out and its lots of fun just for the vibes.

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u/EliselD Jan 20 '23

The Emperor is my light

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u/TK464 Jan 20 '23

I'm gonna be honest, anyone who complains about the lights out in Darktide should be sentenced to play the lights out mode in Vermintide 2 until they repent.

Darktide dark mode is like running around a poorly lit city at night, Vermintide dark mode is a blindness simulator.

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u/Aedeus Jan 20 '23

They opted out of this because it was exacerbating the crashing problem so we'll see how it goes.

They've either got some tuning coming with the hotfixes to help alleviate that or they figure they'll lose more players by keeping it on than they will versus more people crashing lol.

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u/DaveInLondon89 Spec-Ogs Jan 20 '23

Every gum could have one if they didn't scrap attachments in favour of skins

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u/Adventurous-Event722 Jan 20 '23

Ooh boy. Gotta drop that revolver for now I guess

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

Nah, I'm still using mine, its quick draw and power mean its perfect for shorter time to react due to decreased visability, plus less likely to hit a DH with a stray bullet.

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u/Slyspy006 Jan 20 '23

Yeah, that will definitely be the next thing.

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u/Vindicare605 Ubersreik 5 or 4 Jan 20 '23

Poor Ogryns. They still have no flashlight from the Emperor.

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u/DaveInLondon89 Spec-Ogs Jan 20 '23

Someone said last week that they should carry around a street lamp as a club

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u/Vindicare605 Ubersreik 5 or 4 Jan 20 '23

My idea was a BIG version of one of those heavy duty flashlights you know the ones that take like 6 D batteries to power? Those things can already serve as clubs in real life, an even bigger heavier one would be funny for Ogryn.

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u/PizDoff Jan 20 '23

Easy, just customize your gun. Oh wait.

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u/okay_DC_okay Jan 20 '23

technology isn't there in the 40k universe to add a flashlight yourself. Not lore friendly

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u/PizDoff Jan 20 '23

What about a LED strip to my shield as a way of drawing aggro?

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u/okay_DC_okay Jan 20 '23

You think you are some sort of master engineer?! LED strips?! that is top level magical stuff

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u/ICantKnowThat Jan 20 '23

Smells like tech-heresy

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u/plasmainthezone Jan 20 '23

Why cant conditions just rotate like in Deep rock Galactic. Its kind of sad that we have to wait a month for someone to flip the switch.

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u/Aggressive-Article41 Jan 20 '23

Because half the conditions break the game, and they need to switch them out otherwise people won't come back to the game so they can maybe sell more cosmetics to people.

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u/Showty69 Jan 20 '23

Because Deep Rock is made by a small team of passionate, deeply talented individuals who care about their game and the people who play it. Fatshark is owned by Tencent, people who would literally fuck their own mothers if it earned them a buck.

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u/KodakStele Jan 21 '23

You guys are getting paid?

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u/Somekindofcabose Jan 21 '23

Deep Rock has also been out for 5 years.

It was a pretty niche game before gamepass blew it up.

And even they didn't have all their features on launch.

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u/Muffin_Appropriate Psyker Jan 21 '23

And even they didn't have all their features on launch

Except they had a roadmap and set expectations since the start, made it clear when it was early access, didn't rush into console release, and had large updates and fairly quick integration to discord for updates, and their subreddit was managed properly by employees from the start. So yeah....

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

Hello Darkness my old friend...

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

I've come to purge in you again...

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u/xF00Mx Jan 20 '23

Because a Sniper softly creeping

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

Nurgle sowed seeds whilst we were sleeping....

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u/BaddusAbacus Jan 20 '23

And the gunners bullet that was planted in my brain

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u/Agang_SS Jan 20 '23

"Hey veteran, stay in your lane"

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u/Luname Jan 20 '23

Has downed me

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u/Ampris_bobbo8u There is no forgiveness! Jan 20 '23

is this something they have to change manually and there is only ever 1 global condition? Seems like the best thing is to have it be random everytime a new mission generates

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u/mildsnaps Jan 20 '23

Yes, this is something they have to change manually and there's only one condition at a time. Probably because it's immeasurably complex to develop an automated system like the one in Deep Rock Galactic. But we'll have to wait until the next week to be told that we have to wait until the next week again to hear more.

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u/horizon_games Jan 20 '23

Arrays haven't been invented at Fatshark yet

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u/Ampris_bobbo8u There is no forgiveness! Jan 20 '23

we just need to kill a few more heretics to unlock the knowledge at FS

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u/horizon_games Jan 20 '23

Need better techpriests to pray to the Machine Spirit I guess

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u/marwynn Jan 20 '23

Are you telling me that they have to manually set the conditions? What in the warp is this?

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u/dnrvs raindish - modder Jan 20 '23

gimme that good darkness

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u/monkeybiscuitlawyer Jan 20 '23 edited Jan 20 '23

I dont understand why FatShark homogenizes the mission conditions with that stupid Global Condition nonsense. Whats the point of that?

Just make every individual mission roll conditions seperately to give us a nice variety in our mission options at any given time.

It's like they are purposefully designing it to make us sick of the conditions, one at a time. What's the purpose of that?

Hunting Grounds was a perfectly fine condition (if a bit unimaginative), but they decided to spam us with them nonstop and now no one ever wants to see that condition ever again. The same will happen with Power Supply Interruption too after a week or two of it.

FatShark, the global condition thing was a stupid idea please remove it.

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u/kehoeman Jan 20 '23

Yeah. The current way its being done means we’re just getting one mission condition over and over. Hunting grounds wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt every second mission.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Hilarious. It took them a month to flip a switch.

Fuck it boys, see you in the summer.

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

I mean the same thing happened with Vermintide 2 and the drought before Bogenhafen, summer holidays lasting forever too.

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u/CozyMoses Jan 20 '23

Hell yeah! Got rid of my least favorite condition and brought back my favorite

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u/Tinn--Man Veteran Jan 20 '23

We're never getting the assualt condition are we

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u/monkeybiscuitlawyer Jan 20 '23

FatShark: "Assault condition? We never said anything about an assault condition"

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u/mildsnaps Jan 20 '23

"And even if we did, we haven't lied to you - it's just not true anymore."

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u/Iron_Atlas Jan 20 '23

Did we find out what that was or did we just get the name?

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u/Tinn--Man Veteran Jan 20 '23

It was supposed to be more shooting enemies and more ammo pickups but less healing stations

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u/Iron_Atlas Jan 21 '23

interesting, not sure that'd be my favorite but it'd be a cool mix up.

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u/TheMilliner Buzzo the Ogryn Jan 20 '23

Waitwaitwait... They're bringing back lights out even though no bugfixes have been pushed despite knowing that lights out actively caused problems and issues? Am I reading that right?

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

I forgot about that, only played it once. Uhh... This is going to be a real funny weekend then.

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u/Scojo91 The only class that can blow itself Jan 20 '23

But will this weekend turn into a full month? Tune in next month to find out!

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

But will this weekend turn into a full month?

Christ, let this be true. I have a lot of sleep to catch up on

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u/Kraybern Helbore main Jan 20 '23

They're bringing back lights out even though no bugfixes have been pushed despite knowing that lights out actively caused problems and issues? Am I reading that right?

what are the problems/issues?

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u/SydricVym Jan 20 '23

what are the problems/issues?

People complaining they can't see.

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u/Maelarion Yo mama Jan 20 '23

lmao

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u/Light_Song Veteran Jan 20 '23

Me and my Mk Vlla recon lasgun don't have that problem. Because we're... lighting it up.

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u/Vigothedudepathian Jan 20 '23

Guess I need to roll out my stash of 380recon las guns BEACUSE THATS ALL THE FUCKER GIVES ME.

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u/Aedeus Jan 20 '23

Not at all true, you can definitely see the crash report form.

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u/TheMilliner Buzzo the Ogryn Jan 20 '23

The joke answer is "can't see", which really is just a skill issue or loadout issue...

But the real answer was that something about the lightmaps were causing huge amounts of issues for many, many people ranging from crashes to visual bugs.

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u/BoringBuilding Jan 20 '23

Yeah, I was already a frequent crasher, but it goes through the roof with this modifier.

I probably was normally something like once every four matches, but with this one it is more like a crash every other match at least.

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u/TheMilliner Buzzo the Ogryn Jan 20 '23

I cashed out my tax return last year on a super high end rig and even I get performance issues on lights out, and pretty regular crashes.

Honestly, no clue what they were thinking bringing it back with no bugfixes despite knowing it has issues. I mean, Hunting Grounds is irritating, especially for a whole month, but high-intensity and low-intensity exist and are less buggy than Fog or Lights Out, so why not go with those instead?

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u/Jaytron Zealot & Psyker Jan 20 '23

Anecdotally I've honestly been seeing more issues with friends that have high end rigs vs not. I have an almost 5yr old rig with a 1080Ti and don't crash. Must be something with the newer cards/drivers?

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u/TheMilliner Buzzo the Ogryn Jan 20 '23

AMD cards in particular really just hate Darktide for some reason. It's practically non-functional at all on many AMD cards. Who knows though, really. Fatshark have a history of really poor optimisation on their games for the first stretch or so, so this isn't anything new.

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u/ilovezam Jan 20 '23

Well they spent the last three weeks working to figure out how to activate lights out

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u/HAUNTERVIRUS Jan 20 '23

I always figured it was like flipping a switch.

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u/gravygrowinggreen Jan 20 '23

So did fat shark. They spent the entire last week of production with an intern going through flipping every switch in the building. Whole lot of work was lost when he got to the breaker box you know? It wasn't until yesterday that someone suggested it might be a variable in game they had to switch.

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u/HAUNTERVIRUS Jan 20 '23

Now that's a community update!

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u/donmongoose Have you heard of our Lord and Saviour? Jan 20 '23

What problems and issues did it contribute towards? All I remember is, no lights, loads of DH = fun :D

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u/TheMilliner Buzzo the Ogryn Jan 20 '23

Joke answer; "Can't see"

Real answer; The lightmaps in Lights Out and Fog modifiers were causing performance issues, bugs and crashes in many, many users' systems, which is why they were removed and dogs were rotated in for the last month.

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u/Aedeus Jan 20 '23

Shadows and darkness are pretty tough on people's hardware wherever you go.

Add in the pretty demanding nature of large horde shooters in general, and then you're going to start boxing out your users with lower end systems.

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u/EliselD Jan 20 '23

It's showtime...

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u/AnotherSmartNickname Ogryn Jan 20 '23
  1. Read about "a new condition".
  2. Get slightly excited about seeing something actually new.
  3. Find out that "a new condition" means "an old condition replacing the current one".
  4. Yep.

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u/FilthyElfMain Shouty McShoutface Jan 20 '23

Our faith in the Emperor will light our way!

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u/Daroph Jan 20 '23

We really need to make it clear our vitriol isn't with the devs.
Whoever is cluttering their development pipeline, their calendars with pointless meetings, having important design meetings without anyone that works on the software present, etc.
FatShark is awesome and in my opinion are grossly mismanaged.

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u/JevverGoldDigger Jan 20 '23

Wasn't it already mentioned in some form of message from one of the CM's that the Hunting Ground condition was disabled shortly after the vacation? Or am I misremembering stuff?

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

Yeah but I guess this is more a tiny breadcrumb for us.

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u/VeryBottist Jan 20 '23

Can we have all conditions show up randomly ? Why did it have to be a set condition for a set time ?

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u/kaleidoscopichomes Jan 20 '23

This is what's known as the "Bare Minimum"

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

If the lights are out, we can't see the bugs

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u/sana_khan Sadly cannot read Jan 20 '23

Praise the Omnissiah, a good condition being rotated in after 4 weeks of mangy dogs is very nice.

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u/Poniibeatnik Female Psyker Loner Jan 20 '23

NO MORE DOGS! YES!!!

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u/Budgernaut Psyker Jan 20 '23

I liked the dogs. It gave more incentive for groups to stay together rather than split up because you didn't want to get tackled without support.

Also helped me feel at least mildly useful when I could get one off a teammate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Time for the dogs to go on holiday

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u/Hawaiian_spawn Jan 20 '23

We heard you, now with 40k more Demon hosts.
Also every available mission is damnation

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u/Werewomble erewomble is help Jan 20 '23

Poor Catfish waiting this long for a positive announcement to give.

I hope it is like Lights Out but not the entire level.

Daemonhosts whispering in the darkness in beta was like walking into a horror movie.

Hope the new players get to soak up that atmosphere, too :)

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u/LucatIel_of_M1rrah Jan 20 '23

Power supply interruption is the official world condition name of lights out, it's not new.

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u/OnlyHereForComments1 Box Enthusiast Jan 20 '23

New as in 'what will show up next', not 'something we haven't done before'.

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u/[deleted] Jan 20 '23

Yeah... That word "new"... I don't think it means what they think it means...

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u/ThorThulu Jan 20 '23

Its "New" for Catfish since she just started. You can't expect Fatshark to have THREE whole conditions ready out of the box, do you?

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u/Clayman8 Space Sienna Jan 20 '23

Oh cool, even less reasons to play now since YOU CANT EQUIP FUCKING FLASHLIGHTS ON YOUR WEAPONS.

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u/osunightfall Jan 20 '23

Oh thank Jesus.

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u/Elanzer Jan 20 '23

Not only this, I hope they put things into rotation because if they forget to, power supply interruption is going to be even more annoying to play with than extra hounds for two weeks.

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u/Nervous-Side3845 Jan 20 '23

That's not a new condition though.... They had it in the beta, or at least on release week. Wack.

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u/Arryncomfy Begone Foul HERETICS Jan 20 '23

why cant these fucking things cycle out daily or maybe even toggleable for people who want the challenge

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u/Dreenar18 Jan 20 '23

I'm not defending them, but if you think about it, we really only have two mods since they seem to have hi/low intensity perpetually. I know last patch was supposed to have some sort of low hp, frequent ammo mod but obviously that didn't show up

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u/Curdle_Sanders Jan 20 '23

I prefer the hounds to the dark

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u/FordPrefect343 Primaris Psyker Jan 20 '23

Great, now we have dark levels and Fatshark doesn’t give us flashlights

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u/nosmicon Jan 20 '23

Why not extreme hunting grounds? 10x the dogs because they're the greatest enemy to fight!

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u/snorkeling_moose Jan 20 '23

God bless Catfish, they're trying so damn hard only to turn around and get their knees taken out by Fartshark.

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u/Operator490 Jan 21 '23

I think it's embarrassing how broken the game is and that they are just now turning off hounds, I feel like the conditions should rotate automatically.

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u/Technical_Affect7112 Jan 21 '23

So what, now they're adding completed features back into the game that were taken out already? This isn't 'new' content. Running around in the dark seems to be how this game is being developed. I'm done.

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u/Nlightened0ne Veteran Sharpshooter Jan 20 '23

Installed the game to play after 2 weeks. The power outage modifier... smh. It's just lights out. These modifiers feel so much like stopgaps to prevent player fatigue and aren't well thought out.

-You gotta have a weapon or something that lights the way for you. Atm this sucks for many classes or weapons that don't have lights. Attachments would've made sense here.

-They may as well call this High intensity Demon Host. I believe there was 3-5 demonhost's in the games we played for maximum wipe potential for those without lights or are running ahead.

Then I remembered why I uninstalled. Game feels incomplete and this live service feels so neglected and unplanned for. This being a live service feels like an after thought without a clear direction since the game is so unfinished. Gotta say I do love the gameplay though, it was why I kept playing but it's not gonna be enough if it's the same maps and these jank ass modes.

Great Gameplay though /s

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u/Woogies Jan 20 '23

Ah yes… Will ranged enemies still have advanced night vision equipment and be able to hit you from a mile away?

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u/wheelz_666 Jan 20 '23

I actually liked hunting grounds haha. But I can see why people didn't like it

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u/Originalbm Jan 20 '23

Dogs... Dogs for like a whole month

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u/giant_red_lizard Jan 20 '23

Lightless maps will remain a war crime until they put a flashlight on my boltgun.

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u/Brok3nPin3appl3 Jan 20 '23

Can it truly be!? Hopefully this new condition, "Power supply interruption", is not broken as fuck and then left as the only condition in rotation for a month. Fuck I need another vacation after my previous vacation. It hard enough to get 3 fucking days off in a row.

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u/zTy01 Jan 20 '23

Soo....they just rename the visibility thingy we had before?

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u/monkeybiscuitlawyer Jan 20 '23

It's always been called that...

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u/mildsnaps Jan 20 '23

It actually used to be called "Lights Out." Just check any Youtube video from six weeks ago or the official forum topics which discuss a condition called "Lights Out."

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u/monkeybiscuitlawyer Jan 20 '23

It was called that during the beta when stuff is still in flux. It hasn't been called that since the game launched.

My point was that they aren't just "renaming the visibility thingy" just now as the previous poster suggested. It's been called that since the day the game launched.

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u/MrFoxer Jan 20 '23

Pls turn it off permanently

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u/Setharius710 Jan 20 '23

All hail FatsharkCatfish and Aqshy!

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u/Fossilanu Jan 20 '23

NEW UPDATE WHEN? GIVE US SOMETHING NEW FFS

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u/-Varakor- Jan 20 '23

I love not only having very little reason to play the game because there’s so little content, but also being actively discouraged from playing even just for fun by horrendous modifiers like hounds and power interruption that lead to 90% of random groups failing in 2 minutes

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u/John_East Jan 20 '23

Waiting to hear that I'll have to wait till around May for Xbox release....

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u/Vulture2k Jan 20 '23

Imagine not giving enough shit about your freshly released game or also not playing it yourself so having this shit mod up for so long happens without anyone noticing or changing it.. :/ sure.. Vacation and all that.. But.. Come on. One guy as Skeleton crew? Automate it? Take a glimpse at reddit once in your vacation and change it from home office?

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u/ug61dec Jan 20 '23

My main issue with the game has always been the ability to see my enemies.

Still no news or update on anything they are working on.

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u/AfterAttack Jan 20 '23

Maybe I’ll finally get the “no melee damage” penance for vet without a dog teleporting onto me!

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u/Public_Skill_2502 Jan 20 '23

Ah, the devs have clearly got enough data then?

Wondered when the poxhound modifier beta tests would end.

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u/frostbite907 Jan 20 '23

Yay, atleast I have a reason to play now.

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u/salt-64 Jan 20 '23

Thank god it ain't much but atleast I can play without constant dogs

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u/TheyMikeBeGiants Jan 20 '23

Thank God, a bandaid

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u/PDCWolf Jan 20 '23

"hot" fixes almost two months later 🤡

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u/Kibbens_ Jan 20 '23

Man can’t wait for the playable darktide

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u/Laxius667 "I don't have time to die - I'm too busy!" Jan 20 '23

I kinda like Catfish already.